Amy Mihaljevic Update ////// 463

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  • B
    B WI
    Wow. I'm only 20 minutes in but have chills.

    Wow. I'm only 20 minutes in but have chills.

  • Justene
    Justene MN
    Has anyone talked to James Renner?

    Has anyone talked to James Renner?

  • Slatts McCracker
    Slatts McCracker Sydney, Aus
    This is big The old cop car at the intersection near the crime scene trick is straight of Douglas’ play book You’d think an arrest is very close. Couple of points -I won’t say the name, but one of the known suspects was recently homeless according to Renner. Does the press release definitely rule out the well known suspects?? I know circumstances can rule out some of them -despite the family connection, it’s unlikely to be someone Amy knew because she did not identify him in the phone call. -bring back the Fahmi shirts Cheers

    This is big

    The old cop car at the intersection near the crime scene trick is straight of Douglas’ play book

    You’d think an arrest is very close.

    Couple of points

    -I won’t say the name, but one of the known suspects was recently homeless according to Renner. Does the press release definitely rule out the well known suspects?? I know circumstances can rule out some of them

    -despite the family connection, it’s unlikely to be someone Amy knew because she did not identify him in the phone call.

    -bring back the Fahmi shirts

    Cheers

  • Ryan
    Ryan Caledonia
    Amy called her mom from somewhere shortly afterwards. Did he live close enough for her to make that call from his house?

    Amy called her mom from somewhere shortly afterwards. Did he live close enough for her to make that call from his house?

  • Bee
    Bee Sydney
    You could also point out to the possible felon that a guilty plea would result in a considerable upgrade of his board and lodgings. Gratis!

    You could also point out to the possible felon that a guilty plea would result in a considerable upgrade of his board and lodgings. Gratis!

  • Mary
    Mary Akron, OH
    Hey, Guys! Amazing news! Leads to more questions which you all covered very well-most notably; where has this woman been for the last 30 years!? Have to disrespectfully disagree w/comment that only thing vs Runkle is the type of car..LOTS against Runkle: 1. KNOWN pedophile-PAID kids 2. The homemade curtain found w/Amy’s body VERY similar to curtain in his classroom 3. Her body found 1/4 mile from his parents’ house in Ashland-from where he was commuting 4. Worked at Bay Science Center where Amy went-which he denies...why!? 5. Quit teaching & gave up Pension rather than give his fingerprints...why!?! 6. His car fits 7. Composite resemblance I’m sure there’s more, but I can’t remember Not 100% sure it’s him, but to dismiss him and say the car is the only thing that is against him, simply isn’t true...Runkle has a lot more than the type & color of car he drove...which he also Sold, BTW & was destroyed. All avenues should be examined, but this latest story is hinky. I’d want to know why the girlfriend waited. His DNA should help rule him out or in. Time will tell. Thanks!!

    Hey, Guys!
    Amazing news! Leads to more questions which you all covered very well-most notably; where has this woman been for the last 30 years!?
    Have to disrespectfully disagree w/comment that only thing vs Runkle is the type of car..LOTS against Runkle:
    1. KNOWN pedophile-PAID kids
    2. The homemade curtain found w/Amy’s body VERY similar to curtain in his classroom
    3. Her body found 1/4 mile from his parents’ house in Ashland-from where he was commuting
    4. Worked at Bay Science Center where Amy went-which he denies...why!?
    5. Quit teaching & gave up
    Pension rather than give his fingerprints...why!?!
    6. His car fits
    7. Composite resemblance
    I’m sure there’s more, but I can’t remember
    Not 100% sure it’s him, but to dismiss him and say the car is the only thing that is against him, simply isn’t true...Runkle has a lot more than the type & color of car he drove...which he also
    Sold, BTW & was destroyed.
    All avenues should be examined, but this latest story is hinky. I’d want to know why the girlfriend waited. His DNA should help rule him out or in.
    Time will tell.
    Thanks!!

  • Lynette
    Lynette TN
    I find it interesting that he is homeless but has the money to continue to pay for a storage unit and cell phone. I hope they are able to arrest this guy soon if he is indeed Amy's killer.

    I find it interesting that he is homeless but has the money to continue to pay for a storage unit and cell phone. I hope they are able to arrest this guy soon if he is indeed Amy's killer.

  • Nic
    Nic TCG
    @ Slatts - I agree. I 've never thought Amy knew this guy. I will stick by this until they catch the guy and I am proven wrong the key to catching this guy has always been figure out how he or anyone would know Amy but she would not know them. Check all of those boxes and eventually you'll be on the box that is connected to this guy. Cheers Nic

    @ Slatts - I agree. I 've never thought Amy knew this guy. I will stick by this until they catch the guy and I am proven wrong the key to catching this guy has always been figure out how he or anyone would know Amy but she would not know them. Check all of those boxes and eventually you'll be on the box that is connected to this guy.
    Cheers Nic

  • Jarvis
    Jarvis Topeka
    Of all True Crime reports, Renner talking about failing and heading to airport in the Keys and then seeing the suspect just by chance walk in front of his car is the most odd investigation sidebar I’ve heard.

    Of all True Crime reports, Renner talking about failing and heading to airport in the Keys and then seeing the suspect just by chance walk in front of his car is the most odd investigation sidebar I’ve heard.

  • RHL
    RHL Cleveland
    Just finished listening to the episode. I hope this man is actually Amy's killer. Her family deserves some justice. I'm a Clevelander, so I've known and followed this case for a long time as well. But Nic, come on! I was bothered by your comments about homelessness. Living in a shelter IS the same as being homeless. And there's lots of reasons why someone might prefer to sleep in their car or on the streets vs a shelter, other than just not wanting to follow shelter rules. Shelters are too often overcrowded, dirty, and dangerous. Add Covid onto that, and a car can easily look much more appealing than a shelter. As for this man having a cell phone and a storage unit, that's not uncommon for a homeless person either. I've never been homeless myself, fortunately, but I work in social services, so I know a bit about it. A cell phone and a storage unit is much cheaper than an apartment. And many homeless people do actually work. Furthermore, while certainly substance abuse can contribute to homelessness, not all homeless are addicts. Housing is simply just unaffordable in too many parts of the country. I recommend an excellent book called Troop 6000, about a Girl Scouts troop that was started in a shelter, by a homeless Girl Scouts employee, for a more balanced look at homelessness.

    Just finished listening to the episode. I hope this man is actually Amy's killer. Her family deserves some justice. I'm a Clevelander, so I've known and followed this case for a long time as well.

    But Nic, come on! I was bothered by your comments about homelessness.

    Living in a shelter IS the same as being homeless.

    And there's lots of reasons why someone might prefer to sleep in their car or on the streets vs a shelter, other than just not wanting to follow shelter rules. Shelters are too often overcrowded, dirty, and dangerous. Add Covid onto that, and a car can easily look much more appealing than a shelter.

    As for this man having a cell phone and a storage unit, that's not uncommon for a homeless person either. I've never been homeless myself, fortunately, but I work in social services, so I know a bit about it. A cell phone and a storage unit is much cheaper than an apartment. And many homeless people do actually work.

    Furthermore, while certainly substance abuse can contribute to homelessness, not all homeless are addicts. Housing is simply just unaffordable in too many parts of the country.

    I recommend an excellent book called Troop 6000, about a Girl Scouts troop that was started in a shelter, by a homeless Girl Scouts employee, for a more balanced look at homelessness.

  • Kelly
    Kelly Crown Point, IN
    Y’all knocked it out of the park with this episode. I could hear the passion in your voices. So much knowledge surrounding the history of the case and attention to detail when it came to this latest update from law enforcement, each of you sharedyour own theory about what those updates might mean and presented them in a clear, well thought out manner, sprinkle in a little humor for levity...”You’s a skallywag!” “You’s a dirty sumbitch.” Everything that sets you apart from other true crime podcasts came through in this particular episode. Your superior style and coverage is what makes you my hands down favorite podcast and the #1 show I recommend to family and friends. A hearty garage CHEERS to Nic and the Captain—best of the best in the industry.

    Y’all knocked it out of the park with this episode. I could hear the passion in your voices. So much knowledge surrounding the history of the case and attention to detail when it came to this latest update from law enforcement, each of you sharedyour own theory about what those updates might mean and presented them in a clear, well thought out manner, sprinkle in a little humor for levity...”You’s a skallywag!” “You’s a dirty sumbitch.” Everything that sets you apart from other true crime podcasts came through in this particular episode. Your superior style and coverage is what makes you my hands down favorite podcast and the #1 show I recommend to family and friends. A hearty garage CHEERS to Nic and the Captain—best of the best in the industry.

  • Donald
    Donald Maryland
    Is it possible that there is more than one person involved and that this newest person of interest abducted Amy but someone else he knew killed her? That may explain why he had different comments about DNA on the curtain and the body. Perhaps he resided at the location that Amy was killed and the curtains were taken from there. I always thought this curtains looked like something that was used for privacy in a trailer or mobile home. This case is what introduced me to true crime podcasts in general and TCG in particular. It was such a diabolical ploy to get this little girl to meet the perpetrator, I hope they find him soon.

    Is it possible that there is more than one person involved and that this newest person of interest abducted Amy but someone else he knew killed her?

    That may explain why he had different comments about DNA on the curtain and the body. Perhaps he resided at the location that Amy was killed and the curtains were taken from there.

    I always thought this curtains looked like something that was used for privacy in a trailer or mobile home.

    This case is what introduced me to true crime podcasts in general and TCG in particular. It was such a diabolical ploy to get this little girl to meet the perpetrator, I hope they find him soon.

  • Melanie
    Melanie NC
    This is such news! I am so excited to see some actual movement in this case!!!!! Hopefully the next news release will announce and arrest has been made. Cheers ~~ Mel

    This is such news! I am so excited to see some actual movement in this case!!!!! Hopefully the next news release will announce and arrest has been made.

    Cheers ~~
    Mel

  • Martin
    Martin Birmingham, England
    This episode is why you two are the best at what you do. Both of you are clearly invested in this case, but Nic, your passion for true crime and this case in particular is great to listen to. This was an excellent episode and I really hope the case gets solved soon.

    This episode is why you two are the best at what you do. Both of you are clearly invested in this case, but Nic, your passion for true crime and this case in particular is great to listen to. This was an excellent episode and I really hope the case gets solved soon.

  • Slatts
    Slatts McCracker
    A new tidbit from News5: Police said that when they asked the man whether he ever called Amy prior to her abduction the man said, “I could have” and “it could have been a wrong number.” According to the detective’s sworn statement, “when asked if there was a possibility that he called her” the man said, “yes.” -Like with the comments he made about Amy possibly being in his car, he’s setting up an explanation in case the evidence later proves the link. Nic, as you were saying, the question may have been “why would records show that you called Amy’s house” I really think this is the guy. I’m still not sure we can rule out one the known suspects as being the person the police are currently looking at. I can’t rule out Runkle (@Mary - he was also homeless). What was his age in 1989? What about the other known suspects?

    A new tidbit from News5:

    Police said that when they asked the man whether he ever called Amy prior to her abduction the man said, “I could have” and “it could have been a wrong number.”

    According to the detective’s sworn statement, “when asked if there was a possibility that he called her” the man said, “yes.”

    -Like with the comments he made about Amy possibly being in his car, he’s setting up an explanation in case the evidence later proves the link.

    Nic, as you were saying, the question may have been “why would records show that you called Amy’s house”

    I really think this is the guy.

    I’m still not sure we can rule out one the known suspects as being the person the police are currently looking at.

    I can’t rule out Runkle (@Mary - he was also homeless). What was his age in 1989? What about the other known suspects?

  • Debby Sullivan
    Debby Sullivan
    I know that Amy is listening and I'm sure she's glad you two are working for her 😉

    I know that Amy is listening and I'm sure she's glad you two are working for her 😉

  • Jarvis
    Jarvis Topeka
    My after thoughts I hear circumstantial evidence and a coming forward in 2019 which will not even make it through a grand jury. No DNA or it would have been covertly processed not asked for. Lots of peeps drive around listening to radios to look at crime scenes. If this homeless suspect did not show up, the obvious question no one is asking is why. Is he on the run? One lady holding up for 30 years with some other reports his car was there will not pass a grand jury. Hope they will discover the predator child killer soon. I’m not optimistic this is the one.

    My after thoughts

    I hear circumstantial evidence and a coming forward in 2019 which will not even make it through a grand jury.

    No DNA or it would have been covertly processed not asked for.

    Lots of peeps drive around listening to radios to look at crime scenes.

    If this homeless suspect did not show up, the obvious question no one is asking is why. Is he on the run?

    One lady holding up for 30 years with some other reports his car was there will not pass a grand jury.

    Hope they will discover the predator child killer soon. I’m not optimistic this is the one.

  • Rachael
    Rachael Parts Unknown
    I hope this is it. Amy's family needs some closure and justice.

    I hope this is it. Amy's family needs some closure and justice.

  • Kara
    Kara San Diego
    Oh man, this case literally keeps me up at night, and was SO EXCITED to hear these updates - HUGE! I thought this bit from the news release was interesting, don't think it was mentioned in today's episode: The detective said during an interview with the man in the fall of 2019 that the man said he may have met Amy's mother in a bar and that “maybe he didn’t know who he was talking to.” I recall Amy's mother having issues with alcohol, and this could explain how the killer "knew" Amy - possibly knew the details about her mother's promotion from this run-in on the bar stools, maybe she even spilled her phone number while drunk to the guy, giving him an easy "in" with Amy. Doesn't explain the other girls in the area who received phone calls, but the guy could have simply been creeping around, following girls home from school, and looking up phone numbers in a reverse-directory phone book based on address. Such a different time, hard to imagine the days of phone books and community directories, but a part of life in the late 80's. Thanks you guys - you're hands down the #1 true crime podcast in the entire world, as far as I'm concerned ;)

    Oh man, this case literally keeps me up at night, and was SO EXCITED to hear these updates - HUGE! I thought this bit from the news release was interesting, don't think it was mentioned in today's episode:

    The detective said during an interview with the man in the fall of 2019 that the man said he may have met Amy's mother in a bar and that “maybe he didn’t know who he was talking to.”

    I recall Amy's mother having issues with alcohol, and this could explain how the killer "knew" Amy - possibly knew the details about her mother's promotion from this run-in on the bar stools, maybe she even spilled her phone number while drunk to the guy, giving him an easy "in" with Amy.

    Doesn't explain the other girls in the area who received phone calls, but the guy could have simply been creeping around, following girls home from school, and looking up phone numbers in a reverse-directory phone book based on address. Such a different time, hard to imagine the days of phone books and community directories, but a part of life in the late 80's.

    Thanks you guys - you're hands down the #1 true crime podcast in the entire world, as far as I'm concerned wink

  • Ryan
    Ryan Racine
    Amy and Delphi same guy?

    Amy and Delphi same guy?

  • AL
    AL
    pieces of the puzzle are coming together... I suspect this media push has everything to do with getting family/friends of the suspect to come forward with information they may have been hesitent to divulge in the past for whatever reason. For example, what if a niece was gifted Amy's earrings? (shudder) I think we're all capable of pushing uncomfortable thoughts or ideas out of our mind, even for decades, but when forced to confront them, walls come crumbling down. This is a pressure cooker situation and I hope the right people come forward. It reminds me of what they keep saying in the delphi case, that LE is looking for that one piece of information, that one tip, that can help them piece it all together. Fingers crossed in both cases. I've always thought that Amy's killer could be hiding in plain sight, I suspect the same is true for Abby and Libby. Cheers to you Nic & Captain

    pieces of the puzzle are coming together...

    I suspect this media push has everything to do with getting family/friends of the suspect to come forward with information they may have been hesitent to divulge in the past for whatever reason. For example, what if a niece was gifted Amy's earrings? (shudder) I think we're all capable of pushing uncomfortable thoughts or ideas out of our mind, even for decades, but when forced to confront them, walls come crumbling down. This is a pressure cooker situation and I hope the right people come forward. It reminds me of what they keep saying in the delphi case, that LE is looking for that one piece of information, that one tip, that can help them piece it all together. Fingers crossed in both cases. I've always thought that Amy's killer could be hiding in plain sight, I suspect the same is true for Abby and Libby.

    Cheers to you Nic & Captain

  • CBH
    CBH NC
    OTR Nasty Peep here... Great episode - thanks for the update and quick turn around! This is just one of those heartbreaking cases that stays with you. I hope there are answers for Amy’s family and friends. Nic, in regards to the DNA test results (and arrest) taking so long to be announced, I understand making sure everything is confirmed and solid evidence. Could it be possible that after running it through CODIS, they could be linking him to other cases? Captain, I totally agree about him driving by where her body was found. Also, my two favorite comments for levity this week were “It’s a boy” and “Noted.” Great music, as always. CHEERS!

    OTR Nasty Peep here...
    Great episode - thanks for the update and quick turn around! This is just one of those heartbreaking cases that stays with you. I hope there are answers for Amy’s family and friends.
    Nic, in regards to the DNA test results (and arrest) taking so long to be announced, I understand making sure everything is confirmed and solid evidence. Could it be possible that after running it through CODIS, they could be linking him to other cases?
    Captain, I totally agree about him driving by where her body was found. Also, my two favorite comments for levity this week were “It’s a boy” and “Noted.” Great music, as always.
    CHEERS!

  • Kel
    Kel MI
    There are so many cases that I want to see solved....but this case has been that ONE case for me for so long. Amy was such a sweet girl that just wanted to make her mom happy and I remember myself having parents getting divorced around that age and loving horses. I keep checking for updates and when I listened to this episode I almost fell over. I have so many questions, like why now after all this time decide to come forward? IF it is him, I am so grateful that his woman has come forward, but I am not ready to rule out others just yet. My heart aches for Amy’s dad and brother. I would love to see this person caught for them so they can move on from that part of this terrible crime and continue their healing. Great episode once again guys.

    There are so many cases that I want to see solved....but this case has been that ONE case for me for so long. Amy was such a sweet girl that just wanted to make her mom happy and I remember myself having parents getting divorced around that age and loving horses.

    I keep checking for updates and when I listened to this episode I almost fell over. I have so many questions, like why now after all this time decide to come forward?
    IF it is him, I am so grateful that his woman has come forward, but I am not ready to rule out others just yet.

    My heart aches for Amy’s dad and brother. I would love to see this person caught for them so they can move on from that part of this terrible crime and continue their healing.

    Great episode once again guys.

  • Mark
    Mark UK
    Don't have social media, so wasn't sure where else to post this, but watching the Disappearance at Cecil Hotel docuseries, on Netflix. Interesting sub story in there, about Jack Unterweger, which might make for an interesting episode!

    Don't have social media, so wasn't sure where else to post this, but watching the Disappearance at Cecil Hotel docuseries, on Netflix.

    Interesting sub story in there, about Jack Unterweger, which might make for an interesting episode!

  • Cathy
    Cathy Virginia
    Listening to the podcast right now, and when the Capt mentioned Amy's killer might have gotten her number from his niece, it occurred to me, when I was in grade school, the PTA (I think?) put together a directory of students/parents or some such. It had all the numbers for the families. My time in grade school was a different era than Amy's, but I wonder if the same practice occurred in her school. No info on whether the niece went to the same school, but maybe that's one way he got the number (or at least name--back then pretty much everyone was in the phone book, anyway).

    Listening to the podcast right now, and when the Capt mentioned Amy's killer might have gotten her number from his niece, it occurred to me, when I was in grade school, the PTA (I think?) put together a directory of students/parents or some such. It had all the numbers for the families. My time in grade school was a different era than Amy's, but I wonder if the same practice occurred in her school. No info on whether the niece went to the same school, but maybe that's one way he got the number (or at least name--back then pretty much everyone was in the phone book, anyway).

  • Laura
    Laura Minneapolis
    Thanks so much for covering this update. Being an Ohio native and being close to Amy’s age, this case has always haunted me. Since I moved out of state, don’t always hear new updates such as this. Appreciate this information & all you guys do.

    Thanks so much for covering this update. Being an Ohio native and being close to Amy’s age, this case has always haunted me. Since I moved out of state, don’t always hear new updates such as this. Appreciate this information & all you guys do.

  • Nicole
    Nicole Valpo
    I grew up in a suburb of Akron and was 8 when Amy was abducted. I have vivid memories of watching this tragic event unfold in real time, from Amy’s full-sized school pic on the cover of ABJ to standing in a circle of friends at recess trying to figure out, with the confidence of kids, how we might solve the case the adults can’t. I later lived in southern Lorain County and there are 2 parts of this case I can’t shake the meaning of: First, saying BV and Ashland are only 50 minutes apart is an understatement. There is no easy way from one to the other; that is 50 minutes of on-and-off highways, heavy retail intersections with stop-and-go traffic, main streets of small towns that have busy 4-way stoplights, railroad crossings and long county roads with Amish buggies all over the place, etc. Ashland is very rural and imagining how much so in the 80s, I always thought this travel route bizarre and that answers must be in Ashland. It meant something to go out there, and since the LE is certain there is a 3rd location Amy was taken between lost place and found place, I see a missed opportunity by LE to expand the investigation more into property records in Ashland. Somewhere she was hidden for some length of time and I would think it’s more likely to be in Ashland. The killer would have been in a race to get away from any populated area and probably relaxed once he got on the last stretch of county roads. 2nd, I would love for some experts to look into the condition of her body and provide some understanding of the lack of blood and exposure to the elements. I don’t believe she would have been in the field long before she was found - it would be inevitable , even in winter, that wild animals and birds would find her first and it appears they did not (perhaps the plantlife growing through her clothing occurred from placement on a dirt floor or garage?). This is vast land and woods; very empty of people but full of wildlife. Her stab injuries would have caused immense blood loss, yet her clothes were clean? I know this sounds crude, but that she was basically handled in some manner to remove her blood and then cleaned- again, I can’t shake that this had to have happened in Ashland. Thanks for letting me go on about these points, I have followed this case since day 1 and now I have an 11 year old daughter myself, I just hope every day there will some day be justice. Thanks TCG for updating this case and all your hard work on every case!

    I grew up in a suburb of Akron and was 8 when Amy was abducted. I have vivid memories of watching this tragic event unfold in real time, from Amy’s full-sized school pic on the cover of ABJ to standing in a circle of friends at recess trying to figure out, with the confidence of kids, how we might solve the case the adults can’t. I later lived in southern Lorain County and there are 2 parts of this case I can’t shake the meaning of: First, saying BV and Ashland are only 50 minutes apart is an understatement. There is no easy way from one to the other; that is 50 minutes of on-and-off highways, heavy retail intersections with stop-and-go traffic, main streets of small towns that have busy 4-way stoplights, railroad crossings and long county roads with Amish buggies all over the place, etc. Ashland is very rural and imagining how much so in the 80s, I always thought this travel route bizarre and that answers must be in Ashland. It meant something to go out there, and since the LE is certain there is a 3rd location Amy was taken between lost place and found place, I see a missed opportunity by LE to expand the investigation more into property records in Ashland. Somewhere she was hidden for some length of time and I would think it’s more likely to be in Ashland. The killer would have been in a race to get away from any populated area and probably relaxed once he got on the last stretch of county roads.
    2nd, I would love for some experts to look into the condition of her body and provide some understanding of the lack of blood and exposure to the elements. I don’t believe she would have been in the field long before she was found - it would be inevitable , even in winter, that wild animals and birds would find her first and it appears they did not (perhaps the plantlife growing through her clothing occurred from placement on a dirt floor or garage?). This is vast land and woods; very empty of people but full of wildlife. Her stab injuries would have caused immense blood loss, yet her clothes were clean? I know this sounds crude, but that she was basically handled in some manner to remove her blood and then cleaned- again, I can’t shake that this had to have happened in Ashland. Thanks for letting me go on about these points, I have followed this case since day 1 and now I have an 11 year old daughter myself, I just hope every day there will some day be justice. Thanks TCG for updating this case and all your hard work on every case!

  • Adriel
    Adriel Youngstown, Ohio
    I had heard of Amy's case before but didn't know until this week that she was an Ohio girl exactly my age who was abducted and killed the same year I moved here. Strange I don't remember it. I heard you guys discussing the phone calls on an older episode. I remember, of course, when long-distance calls were toll calls and local calls were free. I remember when I moved to Ohio in 1989 our area code was 216 (same as Cleveland) but a few years later it changed to 330. I got curious so I did a little digging and it seems that in 1989 Cuyahoga and Lorain counties (including Bay Village, North Olmsted, and Amherst) were all in the 216 area code, but all of Ashland county was in the 419 area code. So those phone calls could have been made from just about anywhere in NE Ohio, but not from Ashland county. Not very helpful, I'm sure, but it's interesting. I'm with Slatts, it's strange to me that this new suspect is now homeless and so is an old suspect. Could it be the same guy? Did his parents live in Ashland county but he stayed with this girlfriend in Bay Village? The girlfriend said he used to take her down to Ashland county. I'm really curious why. There's not much to do there compared to where they were, unless you're into the outdoors, you like to shop at Amish shops, or you have family there.

    I had heard of Amy's case before but didn't know until this week that she was an Ohio girl exactly my age who was abducted and killed the same year I moved here. Strange I don't remember it.

    I heard you guys discussing the phone calls on an older episode. I remember, of course, when long-distance calls were toll calls and local calls were free. I remember when I moved to Ohio in 1989 our area code was 216 (same as Cleveland) but a few years later it changed to 330. I got curious so I did a little digging and it seems that in 1989 Cuyahoga and Lorain counties (including Bay Village, North Olmsted, and Amherst) were all in the 216 area code, but all of Ashland county was in the 419 area code. So those phone calls could have been made from just about anywhere in NE Ohio, but not from Ashland county. Not very helpful, I'm sure, but it's interesting.

    I'm with Slatts, it's strange to me that this new suspect is now homeless and so is an old suspect. Could it be the same guy? Did his parents live in Ashland county but he stayed with this girlfriend in Bay Village? The girlfriend said he used to take her down to Ashland county. I'm really curious why. There's not much to do there compared to where they were, unless you're into the outdoors, you like to shop at Amish shops, or you have family there.

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