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  • Gloria Hendricks
    Gloria Hendricks Columbus, GA
    I'm listening to episode 2 about poor little Detrez Green. Around 43:50 the colonel is reading a statement given by Lisa to the Atlanta Journal where she says that she spoke to Detrez's parents "right after the tornado when they called her." How is this possible if they both claim to have lost their cell phones during the storm? Also, do you know if anyone has ever laid eyes on a birth certificate for Detrez? Stories like this frustrate me. Being a parent is a privilege and not everyone should be allowed to do it.

    I'm listening to episode 2 about poor little Detrez Green. Around 43:50 the colonel is reading a statement given by Lisa to the Atlanta Journal where she says that she spoke to Detrez's parents "right after the tornado when they called her." How is this possible if they both claim to have lost their cell phones during the storm? Also, do you know if anyone has ever laid eyes on a birth certificate for Detrez? Stories like this frustrate me. Being a parent is a privilege and not everyone should be allowed to do it.

  • Becky
    Becky Austin
    Great music this week (in addition to a really fascinating story)!

    Great music this week (in addition to a really fascinating story)!

  • Cliff
    Cliff Georgia
    I liked the theme music for this case. Good job Captain. You can see how, under the right circumstances, that a hypothetical situation similar to this case could be pulled off for years. Consider a recluse couple, with no really close friends or relatives, who have three children and something goes wrong and one of them that is two years old dies by negligence or is murdered by the parents. The family could simply relocate where no one knows who they are or anything about them. Once resettled they would be seen as a family with two children. Even if all three children were being claimed as dependents on tax returns this could go on for at least another sixteen years without any agency questioning anything. It could actually continue after sixteen years even if the parents dropped the child as a dependent. Obviously the deceased child would show no wages or requested benefits and would be literally off the record. This isn’t that unusual because many homeless individuals don’t work and don’t ask for public assistance.

    I liked the theme music for this case. Good job Captain. You can see how, under the right circumstances, that a hypothetical situation similar to this case could be pulled off for years. Consider a recluse couple, with no really close friends or relatives, who have three children and something goes wrong and one of them that is two years old dies by negligence or is murdered by the parents. The family could simply relocate where no one knows who they are or anything about them. Once resettled they would be seen as a family with two children. Even if all three children were being claimed as dependents on tax returns this could go on for at least another sixteen years without any agency questioning anything. It could actually continue after sixteen years even if the parents dropped the child as a dependent. Obviously the deceased child would show no wages or requested benefits and would be literally off the record. This isn’t that unusual because many homeless individuals don’t work and don’t ask for public assistance.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Hi Gloria, Thanks for the post. My guess here is that they called asap after the tornado and that may have been the hours later, once at the relatives house. We can really only guess what Lisa means by right after the tornado but you are right and the key is regardless if it was minutes, hours or even days after the tornado and their toddler is missing - "We're okay" is only something a guilty party would say. "We're okay" means we are good here, don't ask more questions and I need to get off of the phone. No parent of a missing child - who loved the kid says - we're okay. Cheers Nic

    Hi Gloria,
    Thanks for the post. My guess here is that they called asap after the tornado and that may have been the hours later, once at the relatives house. We can really only guess what Lisa means by right after the tornado but you are right and the key is regardless if it was minutes, hours or even days after the tornado and their toddler is missing - "We're okay" is only something a guilty party would say. "We're okay" means we are good here, don't ask more questions and I need to get off of the phone. No parent of a missing child - who loved the kid says - we're okay.
    Cheers Nic

  • Elizabeth
    Elizabeth Uruguay
    Congrats, guys! Top notch story telling, music, editing, all. This is super sad and intriguing. While I also at some point suspected Detrez may have never existed it seems there were sightings by family , and even the swat team (although if in the latter case that had been the baby girl wrapped in her oldest brother’s clothes nobody would know the difference). How no one in the family , not parents, aunts or grandfather , have a single pic of him is beyond my comprehension. I have pics of friends’ kids whom I haven’t even met in person yet … In any case, I tend to think he did exist. With his date of birth , the hospital he was born and parents’ names I think there should be enough info to confirm his birth (and other siblings). I agree with Cliff from Georgia, it seems likely, given his father’s rap sheet, that this innocent child may have passed away long before the tornado. His father has kids by a previous relationship mired in violence. Did anybody talk to his former wife about his behavior towards these, his oldest kids? I think the spotlight was on Detrez’s family after the tornado, their extended family would ask questions and they saw the opportunity to come up with a convenient story about his disappearance. I agree with the Captain , I wish the boy was with someone who was taking good care of him. Unlikely but one can only hope.

    Congrats, guys! Top notch story telling, music, editing, all.
    This is super sad and intriguing. While I also at some point suspected Detrez may have never existed it seems there were sightings by family , and even the swat team (although if in the latter case that had been the baby girl wrapped in her oldest brother’s clothes nobody would know the difference). How no one in the family , not parents, aunts or grandfather , have a single pic of him is beyond my comprehension. I have pics of friends’ kids whom I haven’t even met in person yet …
    In any case, I tend to think he did exist. With his date of birth , the hospital he was born and parents’ names I think there should be enough info to confirm his birth (and other siblings). I agree with Cliff from Georgia, it seems likely, given his father’s rap sheet, that this innocent child may have passed away long before the tornado. His father has kids by a previous relationship mired in violence. Did anybody talk to his former wife about his behavior towards these, his oldest kids? I think the spotlight was on Detrez’s family after the tornado, their extended family would ask questions and they saw the opportunity to come up with a convenient story about his disappearance.
    I agree with the Captain , I wish the boy was with someone who was taking good care of him. Unlikely but one can only hope.

  • RHL
    RHL Cleveland
    I reas a news article that said law enforcement did find a birth certificate for Detrez. So apparently he existed. My guess is one or both parents killed him shortly after he was born. They knew someone would ask about him eventually. So they used the tornado as a cover up.

    I reas a news article that said law enforcement did find a birth certificate for Detrez. So apparently he existed.

    My guess is one or both parents killed him shortly after he was born.

    They knew someone would ask about him eventually. So they used the tornado as a cover up.

  • TD
    TD GA
    after listening, i dont think the child existed. no birth certificate??? and the parents did seem right before and after the event. so, how do you donate to the b double ee double rr u eeeen?

    after listening, i dont think the child existed. no birth certificate??? and the parents did seem right before and after the event. so, how do you donate to the b double ee double rr u eeeen?

  • Cat
    Cat Midwest
    #1: That music had me on the edge of my seat because I always feel the need to start prepping when I hear a siren. Well done. #2: I have to wonder... did anyone just ask the siblings, "When did you last see you brother?" I know they were young, I wouldn't expect them to give detailed answers but even something vague could have indicated the familiarity with Detrez, as his very existence has been questioned. Great job guys, thanks!!

    #1: That music had me on the edge of my seat because I always feel the need to start prepping when I hear a siren. Well done.
    #2: I have to wonder... did anyone just ask the siblings, "When did you last see you brother?" I know they were young, I wouldn't expect them to give detailed answers but even something vague could have indicated the familiarity with Detrez, as his very existence has been questioned.

    Great job guys, thanks!!

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    @ RHL - Thank you for the update. If able could you post a link to the article. The info we have is that he absolutely existed and I think everyone's suspicions are correct. They did something to the boy - daddy's temper killed him, mommy CHOSE to be silent and the tornado came along and they Dorthy'd Detrez. They needed a story to tell - why they didn't have their boy. My guess in regards to the siblings this may have happened when he was so little and they being young as well may not remember him at all. So sad. Nothing may ever come of this but we wanted to tell Detrez's story - give this little boy a voice and publicly shame these horrible people that unfortunately were able to have children. Kevian Green is the definition of scum and Adaijah Rainey while she likely is some sort of victim herself she is unfit to be a mother, sister or daughter. Adaijah if you want to change that perception of you and if you want to try to clear your conscience - this is still possible. Tell the authorities what happened and where Detrez can be located - they will protect you from this loser. Adaijah - your life sucks and you feel like shit constantly this will never change until you do something about this. Your life will be like this everyday for the rest of your days. You are in control of your life and the rest of your days, how they are spent and your life experience. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It's NEVER too late to do the right thing. You will NEVER feel better until you change. You can email me and I will help you with this. - Nic

    @ RHL - Thank you for the update. If able could you post a link to the article. The info we have is that he absolutely existed and I think everyone's suspicions are correct. They did something to the boy - daddy's temper killed him, mommy CHOSE to be silent and the tornado came along and they Dorthy'd Detrez. They needed a story to tell - why they didn't have their boy. My guess in regards to the siblings this may have happened when he was so little and they being young as well may not remember him at all.
    So sad. Nothing may ever come of this but we wanted to tell Detrez's story - give this little boy a voice and publicly shame these horrible people that unfortunately were able to have children. Kevian Green is the definition of scum and Adaijah Rainey while she likely is some sort of victim herself she is unfit to be a mother, sister or daughter. Adaijah if you want to change that perception of you and if you want to try to clear your conscience - this is still possible. Tell the authorities what happened and where Detrez can be located - they will protect you from this loser. Adaijah - your life sucks and you feel like shit constantly this will never change until you do something about this. Your life will be like this everyday for the rest of your days. You are in control of your life and the rest of your days, how they are spent and your life experience. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It's NEVER too late to do the right thing. You will NEVER feel better until you change.
    You can email me and I will help you with this. - Nic

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Donations to the B-EE-R Fund can be made by clicking the Beer fund/ Donation button located on the right hand side of the main page to our website. Thank you for the support. Cheers!!! Nic

    Donations to the B-EE-R Fund can be made by clicking the Beer fund/ Donation button located on the right hand side of the main page to our website.

    Thank you for the support. Cheers!!! Nic

  • AMY
    AMY KCMO
    When Nic said "even Casey Anthony had pictures of her kid" I went ooooh snap!!! Keep up the great work guys

    When Nic said "even Casey Anthony had pictures of her kid" I went ooooh snap!!!

    Keep up the great work guys

  • chris
    chris fl
    I know there's all this concern about "blaming the victim," but if you are physically abused and have children in your home at some point you become an accomplice in child endangerment. Because the abuse isn't stopping at you no matter what you think. It's on you, as the adult & the mother / father, to get help -- if not for you then for the kids. The laws are in favor of the abused, and there are myriad resources available. There's really no excuse at this point, and remember that fear can be (and very often is) selfish. I know that stance is unpopular, but it's true. There's very little more that we can do as a society. At some point, the victims have to get the ball rolling and stick with it. Yes, it's a rocky road sometimes, and you might get hurt -- shouldn't be that way, but it's life and nobody said any of this here on Earth was gonna be easy. You can google/web-search "Domestic Violence Hotline {Your State}" to find help. It's on you to be the first protector of your own kids. And if you just can't bear to part with the abuser, that's fine with us, but give those kids up so society can do what you won't.

    I know there's all this concern about "blaming the victim," but if you are physically abused and have children in your home at some point you become an accomplice in child endangerment. Because the abuse isn't stopping at you no matter what you think. It's on you, as the adult & the mother / father, to get help -- if not for you then for the kids.

    The laws are in favor of the abused, and there are myriad resources available. There's really no excuse at this point, and remember that fear can be (and very often is) selfish. I know that stance is unpopular, but it's true. There's very little more that we can do as a society. At some point, the victims have to get the ball rolling and stick with it. Yes, it's a rocky road sometimes, and you might get hurt -- shouldn't be that way, but it's life and nobody said any of this here on Earth was gonna be easy.

    You can google/web-search "Domestic Violence Hotline {Your State}" to find help. It's on you to be the first protector of your own kids. And if you just can't bear to part with the abuser, that's fine with us, but give those kids up so society can do what you won't.

  • Michelle
    Michelle Austin, TX
    Craziest and saddest podcasts I've heard, the poor baby (real or not) 😰

    Craziest and saddest podcasts I've heard, the poor baby (real or not) 😰

  • AM
    AM MA
    It seems clear to me that Adaijah is also a victim here. I agree she should leave her situation and speak up for her son, etc. but she has been living in an abusive situation for years and that messes with your mind. She's had the police come to her house multiple times and her family is shut out to the point that they know the danger she's in yet it continues. You can say it's her fault it continues but it's probably not that black and white to her. The fact that she told someone that she'd have to kill her husband to make the abuse stop shows that she didn't see an easy way out. And once kids are involved, while from the outside it makes it more obvious the person should leave and take the kids, within the household there are probably threats and manipulation that make it seem like you can't leave. It seems most likely to me that that poor boy was killed sometime earlier (maybe a long time earlier) and the tornado was just a convenient cover up after the fact. The fact that her son was killed, the authorities came, they believed the story about the tornado, and all this time later they can't prove he was killed, etc. -- imagine how that looks and feels from the point of view of the abused person who knows the truth and it honestly sounds terrifying and like part of the continued abuse. How can she see a way out when the whole world knows what her husband is capable of and no one is stopping him? Maybe I'm wrong and she's equally a POS, and it's nice for you to offer her help, but I couldn't help but see how dangerous her situation was as I listened to the episodes.

    It seems clear to me that Adaijah is also a victim here. I agree she should leave her situation and speak up for her son, etc. but she has been living in an abusive situation for years and that messes with your mind. She's had the police come to her house multiple times and her family is shut out to the point that they know the danger she's in yet it continues. You can say it's her fault it continues but it's probably not that black and white to her. The fact that she told someone that she'd have to kill her husband to make the abuse stop shows that she didn't see an easy way out. And once kids are involved, while from the outside it makes it more obvious the person should leave and take the kids, within the household there are probably threats and manipulation that make it seem like you can't leave. It seems most likely to me that that poor boy was killed sometime earlier (maybe a long time earlier) and the tornado was just a convenient cover up after the fact. The fact that her son was killed, the authorities came, they believed the story about the tornado, and all this time later they can't prove he was killed, etc. -- imagine how that looks and feels from the point of view of the abused person who knows the truth and it honestly sounds terrifying and like part of the continued abuse. How can she see a way out when the whole world knows what her husband is capable of and no one is stopping him? Maybe I'm wrong and she's equally a POS, and it's nice for you to offer her help, but I couldn't help but see how dangerous her situation was as I listened to the episodes.

  • chris
    chris fl
    Ridiculous that multiple organizations say they can't create a missing person record for Detrez Green because there is no photograph. That is, frankly, RIDICULOUS and the final slap in the face for this child. Nobody cares enough, even among those who claim to care, to even create a record for you because nobody cared enough in the first place to take your photo? Arbitrary rules like this drive me nuts. Look. Nobody is going to be able to "prove" anybody is Detrez Green using a photo. Best case there are footprints in the birth record, wherever that is, and that can be matched -- common practice in many jurisdictions. Another scenario if Detrez is found alive: somehow PC hurdle is met to issue a warrant for DNA so law enforcement can pursue endangerment / abandonment charges. All a photo does is, on the off chance (particularly in the case of a toddler or infant and particularly this long after he went missing), somebody still looks like the photo another person can call. So, no, the photos don't help so much that we can't even create a record for him for want of one. I heard Nic singing Charley Project's praises, but no. Push back on that, Nic. Dumb rules, and this woman running that organization should be called out. He is missing, and everybody counts or nobody counts. Plus, the narrative and dates / locations might help if somebody is trying to piece together this child's history later. Nope, not buying it. Not donating more to Charley Project until that's resolved.

    Ridiculous that multiple organizations say they can't create a missing person record for Detrez Green because there is no photograph. That is, frankly, RIDICULOUS and the final slap in the face for this child. Nobody cares enough, even among those who claim to care, to even create a record for you because nobody cared enough in the first place to take your photo? Arbitrary rules like this drive me nuts.

    Look. Nobody is going to be able to "prove" anybody is Detrez Green using a photo. Best case there are footprints in the birth record, wherever that is, and that can be matched -- common practice in many jurisdictions. Another scenario if Detrez is found alive: somehow PC hurdle is met to issue a warrant for DNA so law enforcement can pursue endangerment / abandonment charges.

    All a photo does is, on the off chance (particularly in the case of a toddler or infant and particularly this long after he went missing), somebody still looks like the photo another person can call. So, no, the photos don't help so much that we can't even create a record for him for want of one. I heard Nic singing Charley Project's praises, but no. Push back on that, Nic. Dumb rules, and this woman running that organization should be called out.

    He is missing, and everybody counts or nobody counts. Plus, the narrative and dates / locations might help if somebody is trying to piece together this child's history later. Nope, not buying it. Not donating more to Charley Project until that's resolved.

  • Vee
    Vee Calfornia
    This story reminds me so much of Orin & Orson West out of California City, Calfornia. They disappeared from their backyard, and the foster parents only looked for them for 8 minutes! The only photos they had of those boys were over a year old, they had to get more recent photos from extended family. I would love to see you fellers cover this one! I'm not far from the area, and they aren't getting the media coverage they deserve.

    This story reminds me so much of Orin & Orson West out of California City, Calfornia. They disappeared from their backyard, and the foster parents only looked for them for 8 minutes! The only photos they had of those boys were over a year old, they had to get more recent photos from extended family. I would love to see you fellers cover this one! I'm not far from the area, and they aren't getting the media coverage they deserve.

  • Rese
    Rese Georgia
    I never comment on stuff like this. Captain…the song this week gave me chills. You’re so talented. Xoxo

    I never comment on stuff like this. Captain…the song this week gave me chills. You’re so talented. Xoxo

  • Helsey
    Helsey Oz
    There's no excuse as a mother her job is protect her child no matter how hard it is n yes it wouldn't have been easy but that poor boy didn't have a easy short life. Jail them both n never return the other children both had thier chance .

    There's no excuse as a mother her job is protect her child no matter how hard it is n yes it wouldn't have been easy but that poor boy didn't have a easy short life. Jail them both n never return the other children both had thier chance .

  • David
    David St Joe MO
    I listen to this at work so I apologize if this was covered. I haven’t read all of the comments either but I was wondering if anyone ever interviewed the older sibling of Detrez? I know all of the children were young but would the oldest child be able to tell anything.

    I listen to this at work so I apologize if this was covered.

    I haven’t read all of the comments either but I was wondering if anyone ever interviewed the older sibling of Detrez? I know all of the children were young but would the oldest child be able to tell anything.

  • lou
    lou Bolton, UK
    Excellent music and story guys.

    Excellent music and story guys.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    @ David, Great question and that is certainly an angle that I would pursue. Unfortunately until remains are found I don't think this one is going anywhere. - Nic

    @ David,
    Great question and that is certainly an angle that I would pursue. Unfortunately until remains are found I don't think this one is going anywhere.
    - Nic

  • Melissa
    Melissa Kentucky
    This entire story is truly sad and disturbing, but the part that really hit me hard is that there were no photos of this baby. So heartbreaking. I do hope that it is a case of the photos being on a cell phone. I hope this baby did feel love at some point in his life.

    This entire story is truly sad and disturbing, but the part that really hit me hard is that there were no photos of this baby. So heartbreaking. I do hope that it is a case of the photos being on a cell phone. I hope this baby did feel love at some point in his life.

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