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  • Morgan L
    Morgan L
    Y’all should consider investigating the recently discovered and uninvestigated gravesite found in Wyoming because it seems like it could be related to this case. A grave was found off of Wyoming 294 (up near Powell, WY in Park County) in late 2019. A metal cross was left at the site and bears the name “Morgan” and shows two dates: 1988 (same as Morgan’s birth year) and 2003. It was found on private property. Cadaver dogs indicated the scent of human remains at the site. Relatedly, interstate 80 which is near where Morgan disappeared from runs across the entirety of the state of Wyoming and the road that this grave was found on (WY294) is a few hours directly north of I80 in Powell, WY. This might be a convenient but also isolated pitstop for someone to stay with a camper trailer? I don’t know, but could be worth looking into as there seem to be many similarities between this case and the grave found up in Powell.

    Y’all should consider investigating the recently discovered and uninvestigated gravesite found in Wyoming because it seems like it could be related to this case. A grave was found off of Wyoming 294 (up near Powell, WY in Park County) in late 2019. A metal cross was left at the site and bears the name “Morgan” and shows two dates: 1988 (same as Morgan’s birth year) and 2003. It was found on private property. Cadaver dogs indicated the scent of human remains at the site. Relatedly, interstate 80 which is near where Morgan disappeared from runs across the entirety of the state of Wyoming and the road that this grave was found on (WY294) is a few hours directly north of I80 in Powell, WY. This might be a convenient but also isolated pitstop for someone to stay with a camper trailer? I don’t know, but could be worth looking into as there seem to be many similarities between this case and the grave found up in Powell.

  • Celia
    Celia Fort Worth TX
    I am not trying to be a know-it-all here but what Nic stated is not correct concerning the Amber Alert. It was created after the abduction and murder of Amber Rene Hagerman in Arlington TX.

    I am not trying to be a know-it-all here but what Nic stated is not correct concerning the Amber Alert. It was created after the abduction and murder of Amber Rene Hagerman in Arlington TX.

  • Dennis McCaslin
    Dennis McCaslin Fort Smith, Ar.
    I appreciate you guys covering this story and attributing "Today in Fort Smith" . We are about to update our original series and rerun it again in a few weeks. You have some minor details incorrect (nothing big) and our investigative reporter will be in contact with you.... Thanks- Dennis McCaslin

    I appreciate you guys covering this story and attributing "Today in Fort Smith" . We are about to update our original series and rerun it again in a few weeks. You have some minor details incorrect (nothing big) and our investigative reporter will be in contact with you....

    Thanks- Dennis McCaslin

  • Dustin House
    Dustin House Flippin Ar
    Interstate 40

    Interstate 40

  • Billy
    Billy Fort Smith, Ar
    I live in Fort Smith, Arkansas only about 20 minutes or so from Alma. This has been an event on my mind since I was a kid. People here still wonder what happened and hope that she will one day be found. It’s been so long. They have age advanced renderings made as well. I heard things in this podcast I didn’t even know. I hoped you guys and other podcasts would take on the story. So it isn’t forgotten. We here in this area will not forget. I hope she is found one day and the mystery solved.

    I live in Fort Smith, Arkansas only about 20 minutes or so from Alma. This has been an event on my mind since I was a kid. People here still wonder what happened and hope that she will one day be found. It’s been so long. They have age advanced renderings made as well. I heard things in this podcast I didn’t even know. I hoped you guys and other podcasts would take on the story. So it isn’t forgotten. We here in this area will not forget. I hope she is found one day and the mystery solved.

  • Alexis
    Alexis Massachusetts
    Such a sad case. On Dr. Phil's true crime podcast series about Kyron Horman, he talks about how a lot of child abductors will hit the child in the throat or punch them in the stomach to take their breath away so that they can't yell for help. Then they'll carry the child away as if it is their own child sleeping. That seems like a real possibility in this case and there probably were a lot of children leaving in their parents arms that night. Also, it occurred to me that even though the area where the children were playing was well lit, there were probably areas closeby where it was completely dark due to the time of night. So it wouldn't take long for someone to get her out of sight and into the shadows.

    Such a sad case. On Dr. Phil's true crime podcast series about Kyron Horman, he talks about how a lot of child abductors will hit the child in the throat or punch them in the stomach to take their breath away so that they can't yell for help. Then they'll carry the child away as if it is their own child sleeping. That seems like a real possibility in this case and there probably were a lot of children leaving in their parents arms that night. Also, it occurred to me that even though the area where the children were playing was well lit, there were probably areas closeby where it was completely dark due to the time of night. So it wouldn't take long for someone to get her out of sight and into the shadows.

  • Carol
    Carol MT
    Love you guys, How do I find your blog? Dumbass in Montana

    Love you guys,
    How do I find your blog?
    Dumbass in Montana

  • WHITNEY
    WHITNEY Hometown Alma, AR
    Longtime listener. Love the show. I was 13 and playing right across the road that night. Also my cousins lived on top of the dirt hill right behind the block concession stand that served the small little league field. You asked about the size, it was pretty small, but the 12 and up played right across the road on a much bigger field. The Feilds are right behind Alma High School and the police station is just one block away! There is a housing authority right across the road (south) next to the big kids field, small apartments behind the field (East), a few small old houses (north) and vast open fields (west) down a dirt road. As you can imagine, besides the baseball lights it used to get really dark in the parking lot. Not a lot of cars fit into the small gravel lot on the small field (maybe 20) but people would park in the grass and across the street at the big field. When I finished my game that night Morgan was already gone, but I can tell you it changed everything. No kids played at the field on the dirt hill anymore, parents kept their kids close during the games. My coach was even questioned b/c he lived right next to the field, but he had a great alibi—he was coaching our game. Hope this helps.

    Longtime listener. Love the show.

    I was 13 and playing right across the road that night. Also my cousins lived on top of the dirt hill right behind the block concession stand that served the small little league field. You asked about the size, it was pretty small, but the 12 and up played right across the road on a much bigger field. The Feilds are right behind Alma High School and the police station is just one block away! There is a housing authority right across the road (south) next to the big kids field, small apartments behind the field (East), a few small old houses (north) and vast open fields (west) down a dirt road.

    As you can imagine, besides the baseball lights it used to get really dark in the parking lot. Not a lot of cars fit into the small gravel lot on the small field (maybe 20) but people would park in the grass and across the street at the big field. When I finished my game that night Morgan was already gone, but I can tell you it changed everything. No kids played at the field on the dirt hill anymore, parents kept their kids close during the games. My coach was even questioned b/c he lived right next to the field, but he had a great alibi—he was coaching our game. Hope this helps.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Hi Celia - you are right but I was saying the "Amber Alert" for the state of Arkansas is named after Morgan Nick. Morgan Nick Amber Alert System. Some of the other states have named their Amber Alert for others as well. Thanks to all for posting. I have a bunch of stuff we didn't get to and I'm hoping to put that not his week's Off The Record. Cheers Nic

    Hi Celia - you are right but I was saying the "Amber Alert" for the state of Arkansas is named after Morgan Nick. Morgan Nick Amber Alert System. Some of the other states have named their Amber Alert for others as well.
    Thanks to all for posting. I have a bunch of stuff we didn't get to and I'm hoping to put that not his week's Off The Record.
    Cheers Nic

  • Cathy
    Cathy Boston, MA
    Hey Whitney - was there every any thought by the locals on whether this was someone in the area or not? Your post is so interesting. Is it commonly known who the suspect is that is mentioned near the end of the podcast?

    Hey Whitney - was there every any thought by the locals on whether this was someone in the area or not? Your post is so interesting. Is it commonly known who the suspect is that is mentioned near the end of the podcast?

  • Michelle
    Michelle Arkansas
    Just listen to your podcast about Morgan. I have a daughter her age in Fort Smith, all of us parents changed the way we allowed our kids to play at local ball parks. Locally, we all wanted to be kept up on news, yet they didn’t really allow that back then. Unless our area went or goes nationwide nothing really gets on the news much any around here. Spiro is close, any town in Oklahoma close by here is included around “here”. Really, if you were to take a small town and go about 50-60 miles in any direction your considered close. Even if you go across that state line. The news did say a lot about the truck and watch for it. Alma is in Crawford County, Fort Smith is in Sabastian County. An outsider almost couldn’t find that ballpark because where it’s located. A lot of people don’t remember that second sketch being put out in 2001 right off when asked.

    Just listen to your podcast about Morgan. I have a daughter her age in Fort Smith, all of us parents changed the way we allowed our kids to play at local ball parks. Locally, we all wanted to be kept up on news, yet they didn’t really allow that back then. Unless our area went or goes nationwide nothing really gets on the news much any around here.
    Spiro is close, any town in Oklahoma close by here is included around “here”. Really, if you were to take a small town and go about 50-60 miles in any direction your considered close. Even if you go across that state line.
    The news did say a lot about the truck and watch for it.
    Alma is in Crawford County, Fort Smith is in Sabastian County.
    An outsider almost couldn’t find that ballpark because where it’s located.
    A lot of people don’t remember that second sketch being put out in 2001 right off when asked.

  • Ashleyflowersnack
    Ashleyflowersnack Denver
    Hey- Celia “The Morgan Nick Alert is the Arkansas name for the nationally recognized Amber Alert Program designed to alert citizens that a juvenile is missing. Morgan Nick, a six-year-old girl who went missing from Alma (Crawford County) in 1995 the Morgan Nick Alert law enforcement, media, and civic groups increased awareness of a possible abduction and thereby increase the probability of locating a missing child.”(Amber Alert). Amber Hagerman, a 9-year-old girl abducted and murdered in Arlington, Texas, in 1996. I think she was a child that got abducted in that age range. Also her name happen to be Amber.. Just my opinion based on my research Morgan was abducted in 1995 and Amber 1996.

    Hey- Celia “The Morgan Nick Alert is the Arkansas name for the nationally recognized Amber Alert Program designed to alert citizens that a juvenile is missing. Morgan Nick, a six-year-old girl who went missing from Alma (Crawford County) in 1995 the Morgan Nick Alert law enforcement, media, and civic groups increased awareness of a possible abduction and thereby increase the probability of locating a missing child.”(Amber Alert). Amber Hagerman, a 9-year-old girl abducted and murdered in Arlington, Texas, in 1996. I think she was a child that got abducted in that age range. Also her name happen to be Amber.. Just my opinion based on my research Morgan was abducted in 1995 and Amber 1996.

  • joe
    joe dirt
    Really pisses me off how so many of these cases similar to this are still unsolved. Scary how inept law enforcement is sometimes.

    Really pisses me off how so many of these cases similar to this are still unsolved. Scary how inept law enforcement is sometimes.

  • CaterpillarGirl
    CaterpillarGirl Fayetteville, Ar
    Not sure where I-80 is but it’s nowhere near Alma...I-40 is Also, campers on the back of a truck were pretty common around this time period. This did not remotely mean anyone was living in their truck. Most people usually had them for one or all of the following reasons: -Those fancy locking tool boxes weren’t much of a thing yet -People used them for camping/fishing hunting -Used much like truck bed covers today...to keep stuff in the bed dry and out of site Also, I lived in Van Buren (town between Alma/Ft.Smith) from 89-93. There were most definitely issues with young girls in the 11-13 age range being stalked, harassed and many attempted abductions. My friend group in 6th grade were targeted. Most of the girls in the group lived in public housing and the attempted abduction I experienced also happened during a sleep over in this area (we went out to the little playground...luckily the friends older brother and friend went along because we got separated and that kept both of us from being alone). This happened in 90-91 (7th grade but I don’t remember if it was the fall or spring time). So yeah, there was some shady shit happening in that area for a couple of years building up to the Morgan Nic abduction. I’m also 99% sure there was a girl around her age that was abducted and killed because that’s when I told my mom about the incident where we got away and we talked to the police about it then. I don’t remember the particulars or even the name just when it did happen it was too familiar with the place she was taken from and that sort of thing which freaked me the hell out.

    Not sure where I-80 is but it’s nowhere near Alma...I-40 is

    Also, campers on the back of a truck were pretty common around this time period. This did not remotely mean anyone was living in their truck. Most people usually had them for one or all of the following reasons:
    -Those fancy locking tool boxes weren’t much of a thing yet
    -People used them for camping/fishing hunting
    -Used much like truck bed covers today...to keep stuff in the bed dry and out of site

    Also, I lived in Van Buren (town between Alma/Ft.Smith) from 89-93. There were most definitely issues with young girls in the 11-13 age range being stalked, harassed and many attempted abductions. My friend group in 6th grade were targeted. Most of the girls in the group lived in public housing and the attempted abduction I experienced also happened during a sleep over in this area (we went out to the little playground...luckily the friends older brother and friend went along because we got separated and that kept both of us from being alone). This happened in 90-91 (7th grade but I don’t remember if it was the fall or spring time).

    So yeah, there was some shady shit happening in that area for a couple of years building up to the Morgan Nic abduction. I’m also 99% sure there was a girl around her age that was abducted and killed because that’s when I told my mom about the incident where we got away and we talked to the police about it then. I don’t remember the particulars or even the name just when it did happen it was too familiar with the place she was taken from and that sort of thing which freaked me the hell out.

  • Amanda
    Amanda Maryland
    joe- I don't think law enforcement is to blame for this. They have so little to work with. It sounds like there was no physical evidence at the scene. They are working off of a few vague witness descriptions that may or may not be relevant. While we have heard plenty of stories where investigators screwed up, I don't think that's the case here. Nic said at the end of the episode that they claim to have a suspect in mind, which means they have still been working on it after all these years. But they can't take it to trial without a decent amount of evidence, because if they can't prove it and he's found not guilty, they can't charge him again even if they find new evidence. I feel horrible for the parents, because it's so understandable that you don't want to give up without proof that they're gone. But I always find some inspiration in the fact that many parents of missing children go on to join/create organizations to help others in their position. I hope they get an answer one day, for better or worse. Good case to close out the year, guys!

    joe- I don't think law enforcement is to blame for this. They have so little to work with. It sounds like there was no physical evidence at the scene. They are working off of a few vague witness descriptions that may or may not be relevant. While we have heard plenty of stories where investigators screwed up, I don't think that's the case here. Nic said at the end of the episode that they claim to have a suspect in mind, which means they have still been working on it after all these years. But they can't take it to trial without a decent amount of evidence, because if they can't prove it and he's found not guilty, they can't charge him again even if they find new evidence.

    I feel horrible for the parents, because it's so understandable that you don't want to give up without proof that they're gone. But I always find some inspiration in the fact that many parents of missing children go on to join/create organizations to help others in their position. I hope they get an answer one day, for better or worse.

    Good case to close out the year, guys!

  • CharK
    CharK NJ
    I started listening to a show called Bear Brook. It involves a cold case in New Hampshire related to a serial killer named Terry Peder Rasmussen, also known as 'Bob Evans'. What struck me was in 1985, dude was living in a trailer park in Santa Cruz with a girl he claimed was his 5 year old daughter in a small truck camper with Texas plates. Long story short he wasn't her Dad, she had been kidnapped. He was arrested although at the time they didn't know he wasn't really the father. He was released from prison and ran out on parole in 1990 and split out of California. Not much else on the timeline until 2000. Probably isn't anything but it hit me like a ton of bricks when they said small truck camper. https://www.wmur.com/article/case-timeline-man-known-as-bob-evans-connected-to-6-killings/8643018

    I started listening to a show called Bear Brook. It involves a cold case in New Hampshire related to a serial killer named Terry Peder Rasmussen, also known as 'Bob Evans'. What struck me was in 1985, dude was living in a trailer park in Santa Cruz with a girl he claimed was his 5 year old daughter in a small truck camper with Texas plates. Long story short he wasn't her Dad, she had been kidnapped. He was arrested although at the time they didn't know he wasn't really the father. He was released from prison and ran out on parole in 1990 and split out of California. Not much else on the timeline until 2000. Probably isn't anything but it hit me like a ton of bricks when they said small truck camper. https://www.wmur.com/article/case-timeline-man-known-as-bob-evans-connected-to-6-killings/8643018

  • Investigate
    Investigate Arkansas
    This is a creepy tidbit I came across when doing a Google search (sophisticated, I know) of the Morgan Nick case: "And why would an author (he’s now deceased) who typically wrote books about pedophilic fantasies publish a fictional book in 2004 that eerily depicts the abduction of Morgan Nick? The author in question is Donald Harington, a fringe writer with a cult following and one time professor of history at the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville. Before his passing in 2009, Harington authored just over a dozen books, many of them heavily laced with strong sexual themes such as incest or pedophilia. Harington’s books “Ekaterina,” and “Lightning Bug” are listed among some of the “Best Selling Pedophilia Books” of all time. According to Harington’s obituary, his next novel, was perhaps the “riskiest ever” -- it was entitled “With,” and this book is the story of a seven-year-old girl who is abducted by a retired police officer. The officer takes her to a remote cabin in Arkansas to make her his “child bride.” Harington gave many interviews about “With” -- he was particularly proud of this novel, as it became his best-selling book of his career. In fact due to its popularity, this book required a second edition. Several years before his death, after reading “With,” I contacted Donald Harington to request an interview with him. He agreed, and we conducted the interview over email. The interview had to be in writing because Donald Harington was deaf. Harington lost nearly all of his hearing at age 12 due to meningitis. I shared with Harington that I was very intrigued about the similarities between Morgan Nick and the little girl who was abducted in his novel “With.” During the interview, Harington confirmed that he had indeed crafted the novel “With” after the abduction of Morgan Nick. When asked about his other books, he shared with me that they all had a common theme: He always interjected people he knew, places he had seen, things he had done, ideas he felt were important, along with other small bits of truth into his writings. I have to be honest. Harington’s comments about his writings made me shudder due to their sexually charged nature that glorifies the unthinkable: pedophilia. Even more disturbing was the level of his infatuation with his novel “With.” He loved “With” so much so that a description of the book was even included in his obituary. Am I saying that the book “With” should make Donald Harington a person of interest in the Morgan Nick case? Not at all. I’m not accusing Harington of being involved in or having knowledge of Morgan’s abduction. I’m simply pointing out that Harington’s books often centered on themes of pedophilia -- and one of those books also centered on the abduction of a little girl in Arkansas… Morgan Nick."

    This is a creepy tidbit I came across when doing a Google search (sophisticated, I know) of the Morgan Nick case:

    "And why would an author (he’s now deceased) who typically wrote books about pedophilic fantasies publish a fictional book in 2004 that eerily depicts the abduction of Morgan Nick? The author in question is Donald Harington, a fringe writer with a cult following and one time professor of history at the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville. Before his passing in 2009, Harington authored just over a dozen books, many of them heavily laced with strong sexual themes such as incest or pedophilia. Harington’s books “Ekaterina,” and “Lightning Bug” are listed among some of the “Best Selling Pedophilia Books” of all time. According to Harington’s obituary, his next novel, was perhaps the “riskiest ever” -- it was entitled “With,” and this book is the story of a seven-year-old girl who is abducted by a retired police officer. The officer takes her to a remote cabin in Arkansas to make her his “child bride.” Harington gave many interviews about “With” -- he was particularly proud of this novel, as it became his best-selling book of his career. In fact due to its popularity, this book required a second edition. Several years before his death, after reading “With,” I contacted Donald Harington to request an interview with him. He agreed, and we conducted the interview over email. The interview had to be in writing because Donald Harington was deaf. Harington lost nearly all of his hearing at age 12 due to meningitis. I shared with Harington that I was very intrigued about the similarities between Morgan Nick and the little girl who was abducted in his novel “With.” During the interview, Harington confirmed that he had indeed crafted the novel “With” after the abduction of Morgan Nick. When asked about his other books, he shared with me that they all had a common theme: He always interjected people he knew, places he had seen, things he had done, ideas he felt were important, along with other small bits of truth into his writings. I have to be honest. Harington’s comments about his writings made me shudder due to their sexually charged nature that glorifies the unthinkable: pedophilia.
    Even more disturbing was the level of his infatuation with his novel “With.” He loved “With” so much so that a description of the book was even included in his obituary. Am I saying that the book “With” should make Donald Harington a person of interest in the Morgan Nick case? Not at all. I’m not accusing Harington of being involved in or having knowledge of Morgan’s abduction. I’m simply pointing out that Harington’s books often centered on themes of pedophilia -- and one of those books also centered on the abduction of a little girl in Arkansas… Morgan Nick."

  • Tracey
    Tracey UK
    Oh how I have missed this over the holidays. Great to hear you both again and a happy New year to you and yours for 2020. All the best. Is the merch not available after 12th Jan? I need a hoodie but Christmas wiped me out. I need a promo code 😂😂 Will anything be available towards end of January?

    Oh how I have missed this over the holidays. Great to hear you both again and a happy New year to you and yours for 2020. All the best.

    Is the merch not available after 12th Jan? I need a hoodie but Christmas wiped me out. I need a promo code 😂😂

    Will anything be available towards end of January?

  • Reporting
    Reporting OK
    For the sake of clarity. I am going to lay out my theory. I will probably regret it, because it will open up the same can of worms again.The person who abducted Morgan (or had it done) was involved with a nationwide child pornography/prostitution ring and in the federal witness protection program at the same time (with the apparent blessing of the government). There may have been high level government officials involved in the ring. After Morgan was abducted, some people (me included) got a little too close to the truth and were basically told to mind our own business OR ELSE. I fought the good fight, but the night that a sniper took a shot at me in my car on a rural Crawford County road and I found a note on my windshield the next morning that said we won't miss next time, I kinda figured I was waging a war I probably wasn't going to win. My contention is and was that there are some people that do not want to know what happened to Morgan Nick and there are others that do not want anyone else to know what happened to Morgan Nick. I hate it that she is gone and I cringe at the thought of what she probably went through. But I did everything in my power to pass the information onto the right people and all I got for my trouble was shot at and threatened. It is also my contention since the only people I was talking to about the case were "the right people" that someone inside that circle of right people didn't like what my investigation uncovered. Morgan is still missing. My information was she was killed within days of the abduction.If I keep poking around, I am going to end up just like her. By the way, my information is that the person responsible died in a Louisiana prison several years ago. Of course, that could be a witness protection cover story So again let me say that At the time Morgan was abducted, I worked in local media. I was in on the story from Day One and at one time probably knew as much about the case as members of the Nick family did. Please take all of this with a grain of salt. I hope Morgan is alive somewhere and will be reunited with her loved ones someday. But this is my story and EVERYTHING I am about to tell you is the absolute truth. I was approached several months after Morgan came up missing by a man who said that Morgan had been abducted as part of a nationwide child pornography and/or child sex ring. Without going into details, his claim that Morgan had been kidnapped and taken to a location in north central Arkansas. His story was that she had been killed while in engaging in some sort of activity associated with said ring. He also claimed that he worked for a guy who was part of the ring by was also a general contractor at the time and Morgan had been buried under a foundation of a house near Harrison. I investigated. I talked with a lot of people and a lot of things they were telling me dove-tailed with the story my source was giving me. My investigation put me into contact with a female FBI agent working out of the Harrison area and she and I spent several hours talking on the phone with me sharing what I had discovered about the case. They are a number of details that I could go into it. It is sufficient to say that authorities at one time were OFFICIALLY investigated the matter along the same lines I was pursuing. But I apparently started getting too close to some people who were involved it the situation at a high level and who held some sway circumspect to the situation. The agent I was working with called me one day and said she had been ordered to have no more contact with me. No explanation, no reason other than a nervous laugh and the statement that you may be getting to close to the essence of the case

    For the sake of clarity. I am going to lay out my theory. I will probably regret it, because it will open up the same can of worms again.The person who abducted Morgan (or had it done) was involved with a nationwide child pornography/prostitution ring and in the federal witness protection program at the same time (with the apparent blessing of the government).

    There may have been high level government officials involved in the ring. After Morgan was abducted, some people (me included) got a little too close to the truth and were basically told to mind our own business OR ELSE.

    I fought the good fight, but the night that a sniper took a shot at me in my car on a rural Crawford County road and I found a note on my windshield the next morning that said we won't miss next time, I kinda figured I was waging a war I probably wasn't going to win.

    My contention is and was that there are some people that do not want to know what happened to Morgan Nick and there are others that do not want anyone else to know what happened to Morgan Nick. I hate it that she is gone and I cringe at the thought of what she probably went through. But I did everything in my power to pass the information onto the right people and all I got for my trouble was shot at and threatened.

    It is also my contention since the only people I was talking to about the case were "the right people" that someone inside that circle of right people didn't like what my investigation uncovered. Morgan is still missing. My information was she was killed within days of the abduction.If I keep poking around, I am going to end up just like her.

    By the way, my information is that the person responsible died in a Louisiana prison several years ago. Of course, that could be a witness protection cover story

    So again let me say that At the time Morgan was abducted, I worked in local media. I was in on the story from Day One and at one time probably knew as much about the case as members of the Nick family did.

    Please take all of this with a grain of salt. I hope Morgan is alive somewhere and will be reunited with her loved ones someday. But this is my story and EVERYTHING I am about to tell you is the absolute truth.

    I was approached several months after Morgan came up missing by a man who said that Morgan had been abducted as part of a nationwide child pornography and/or child sex ring. Without going into details, his claim that Morgan had been kidnapped and taken to a location in north central Arkansas. His story was that she had been killed while in engaging in some sort of activity associated with said ring. He also claimed that he worked for a guy who was part of the ring by was also a general contractor at the time and Morgan had been buried under a foundation of a house near Harrison.

    I investigated. I talked with a lot of people and a lot of things they were telling me dove-tailed with the story my source was giving me. My investigation put me into contact with a female FBI agent working out of the Harrison area and she and I spent several hours talking on the phone with me sharing what I had discovered about the case.

    They are a number of details that I could go into it. It is sufficient to say that authorities at one time were OFFICIALLY investigated the matter along the same lines I was pursuing. But I apparently started getting too close to some people who were involved it the situation at a high level and who held some sway circumspect to the situation.

    The agent I was working with called me one day and said she had been ordered to have no more contact with me. No explanation, no reason other than a nervous laugh and the statement that you may be getting to close to the essence of the case

  • Michelle
    Michelle Fort Smith
    CaterpillarGirl, there is no other abductions in the state of Arkansas where a girl that young was abducted or abducted and murdered. I know you mean well, but this is fueling the first of misinformation. What girls were stalked/harassed and/or someone attempted to abduct them? What town(s) and what year(s)? I will FOIA the police records today. If there was some mad man (or men) roaming around trying to abduct little girls that would have been BIG news. I am not attacking you but I am scolding you for spreading rumors that are only going to fuel insanity. Please back it up with some facts that can be verified. This is what frustrates me about this case. So many rumors... it's highly unlikely the abductor was even driving a red truck with a white camper shell. You realize this, right? That information came from an incident at a laundromat the night BEFORE Morgan Nick went missing. Shaking my head. So many people have made up stories that have made this story RIDICULOUS and impossible to solve. To clarify, I am not calling you a liar, but I think someone has given you bad information... unless you can verify. If you can, I am all ears.

    CaterpillarGirl, there is no other abductions in the state of Arkansas where a girl that young was abducted or abducted and murdered. I know you mean well, but this is fueling the first of misinformation. What girls were stalked/harassed and/or someone attempted to abduct them? What town(s) and what year(s)? I will FOIA the police records today. If there was some mad man (or men) roaming around trying to abduct little girls that would have been BIG news. I am not attacking you but I am scolding you for spreading rumors that are only going to fuel insanity. Please back it up with some facts that can be verified. This is what frustrates me about this case. So many rumors... it's highly unlikely the abductor was even driving a red truck with a white camper shell. You realize this, right? That information came from an incident at a laundromat the night BEFORE Morgan Nick went missing. Shaking my head. So many people have made up stories that have made this story RIDICULOUS and impossible to solve. To clarify, I am not calling you a liar, but I think someone has given you bad information... unless you can verify. If you can, I am all ears.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Yes - my bad! I-80 is much further north. Apologies, sometimes I get going and I can't fact check and talk at the same time. I wish the garage could hire someone to do so... The thing I really wanted clarity on and I don't think I said this on the show... The camper in the bed of the truck - was it truly a camper or was it just the shell? Maybe the two children were too young to know/report the difference and the adult was too far to tell or she did not connect the truck to the man. There is a difference- while either could be used for similar purposes they are very different. Thank you for posting about the author - apparently that was "his thing" to write about. I didn't include the Donald Harington stuff for several reasons which I could get into if anyone is interested but it is a weird angle to the story. Obviously from his statements he must have based the other books on other crimes maybe real life - wonder which ones. I'm not going to purchase nor read that crap to try to figure it out. We really could have done a second episode on this and I hope to add some more stuff on OTR but we were only slated for one episode this week and on the surface Morgan's case seem to fit nicely - however from a speculation state point there is a lot one could go into. Cheers Nic

    Yes - my bad! I-80 is much further north. Apologies, sometimes I get going and I can't fact check and talk at the same time. I wish the garage could hire someone to do so...
    The thing I really wanted clarity on and I don't think I said this on the show... The camper in the bed of the truck - was it truly a camper or was it just the shell? Maybe the two children were too young to know/report the difference and the adult was too far to tell or she did not connect the truck to the man. There is a difference- while either could be used for similar purposes they are very different.
    Thank you for posting about the author - apparently that was "his thing" to write about. I didn't include the Donald Harington stuff for several reasons which I could get into if anyone is interested but it is a weird angle to the story. Obviously from his statements he must have based the other books on other crimes maybe real life - wonder which ones. I'm not going to purchase nor read that crap to try to figure it out.
    We really could have done a second episode on this and I hope to add some more stuff on OTR but we were only slated for one episode this week and on the surface Morgan's case seem to fit nicely - however from a speculation state point there is a lot one could go into.
    Cheers Nic

  • Investigate
    Investigate AR
    I would like to know why you didn't include the Donald Harington information. The guy was clearly a creep!

    I would like to know why you didn't include the Donald Harington information. The guy was clearly a creep!

  • Angela
    Angela Vermont
    Archaeologist here -- I often find that I am in need of historic maps and aerial photographs of various places I may be researching. When I was listening to this episode I thought you'd find the resource https://www.historicaerials.com helpful. If you look up Alma in their viewer, you can see historic aerial photography of the town from 1994, which will give you a good idea of the layout and size of the fields and surrounding land around the time of the kidnapping. Hope this adds to your research toolkit!

    Archaeologist here -- I often find that I am in need of historic maps and aerial photographs of various places I may be researching. When I was listening to this episode I thought you'd find the resource https://www.historicaerials.com helpful. If you look up Alma in their viewer, you can see historic aerial photography of the town from 1994, which will give you a good idea of the layout and size of the fields and surrounding land around the time of the kidnapping. Hope this adds to your research toolkit!

  • Dennis McCaslin
    Dennis McCaslin Fort Smith, Ar.
    One of the things that concerns us is the wealth of theories and rumors and the copying and pasting of information without regard to attribution ..For example...there is a post above by OK Reporting that sounds like a first person account of a situation when I know the actual person who experienced the situation and have written about their story in the past. The problems with a lot of these" true crime sites" (one ion particular) is that they are populated by a a lot of (well intended) amateur sleuths who muddy up the water. Another example of this is the reporting of part of an article from our website without attribution and which information is taken out of context. We all want this thing solved. Just be careful of spreading misinformation and false leads. Dennis McCaslin Editor and Publisher todayinfortsmith.com

    One of the things that concerns us is the wealth of theories and rumors and the copying and pasting of information without regard to attribution ..For example...there is a post above by OK Reporting that sounds like a first person account of a situation when I know the actual person who experienced the situation and have written about their story in the past. The problems with a lot of these" true crime sites" (one ion particular) is that they are populated by a a lot of (well intended) amateur sleuths who muddy up the water. Another example of this is the reporting of part of an article from our website without attribution and which information is taken out of context. We all want this thing solved. Just be careful of spreading misinformation and false leads.

    Dennis McCaslin
    Editor and Publisher
    todayinfortsmith.com

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    @ Angela - thank you for this! Cheers Nic

    @ Angela - thank you for this!
    Cheers Nic

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    @ Investigate - well truly it was a multitude of reasons, I'll go through some of it. Creep factor really played no part in the decision, as that's clearly high up on the creep scale. With a new case each week we have limited time to determine the relevancy level. Now I know someone is going to come at me here but this is something I am tasked with on every case. Also I am only half of the show - so in keeping with our format, I bring very lengthy notes with me for each case. While in the process of recording I am also determining based on relevance (my own, just a garage guy) and time - what to include as we trek along. Simply put, this along with several other very creepy items did not make it into our show. Again, I hope to expand on this on OTR. Cheers Nic

    @ Investigate - well truly it was a multitude of reasons, I'll go through some of it. Creep factor really played no part in the decision, as that's clearly high up on the creep scale. With a new case each week we have limited time to determine the relevancy level. Now I know someone is going to come at me here but this is something I am tasked with on every case. Also I am only half of the show - so in keeping with our format, I bring very lengthy notes with me for each case. While in the process of recording I am also determining based on relevance (my own, just a garage guy) and time - what to include as we trek along. Simply put, this along with several other very creepy items did not make it into our show. Again, I hope to expand on this on OTR.
    Cheers Nic

  • Laura
    Laura Bryant, Arkansas
    I also caught the errors, being from AR. The Amber Alert was not started because of Morgan Nick, it was a girl in TX named Amber. The 2nd error: it's I-40 not I-80 that runs thru Alma. I still hope after all these that she is still alive. Jaycee Duggard certainly re-amped the hope that it's possible.

    I also caught the errors, being from AR. The Amber Alert was not started because of Morgan Nick, it was a girl in TX named Amber. The 2nd error: it's I-40 not I-80 that runs thru Alma. I still hope after all these that she is still alive. Jaycee Duggard certainly re-amped the hope that it's possible.

  • Che
    Che Arkansas
    Why point out those errors? Seems silly. Good freaking night. The police released the wrong composite sketch for years. Why aren’t you outraged about that?

    Why point out those errors? Seems silly. Good freaking night. The police released the wrong composite sketch for years. Why aren’t you outraged about that?

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Morgan Nick Amber Alert The Morgan Nick Alert System now gives us the ability to get information and pictures out across the state, almost instantaneously, following the initial report of an abduction. The backbone of the Morgan Nick Alert System is the same technology that broadcasters have used for years to warn us of imminent danger — The Emergency Alert System. Arkansas law enforcement agencies now have access, through the Arkansas State Police, to activate the system and spread the word of a child abduction to more than 250 Arkansas radio and television stations.

    Morgan Nick Amber Alert
    The Morgan Nick Alert System now gives us the ability to get information and pictures out across the state, almost instantaneously, following the initial report of an abduction.

    The backbone of the Morgan Nick Alert System is the same technology that broadcasters have used for years to warn us of imminent danger — The Emergency Alert System. Arkansas law enforcement agencies now have access, through the Arkansas State Police, to activate the system and spread the word of a child abduction to more than 250 Arkansas radio and television stations.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    From the Morgan Nick Foundation website. I know the Amber Hagerman case well and just like Morgan's its a sad one. I believe the Morgan Nick Foundation and Colleen NicK were instrumental in bringing the Amber Alert system to Arkansas. According to several publications the Amber alert system in Arkansas is or once was named the Morgan Nick Amber Alert system

    From the Morgan Nick Foundation website. I know the Amber Hagerman case well and just like Morgan's its a sad one. I believe the Morgan Nick Foundation and Colleen NicK were instrumental in bringing the Amber Alert system to Arkansas. According to several publications the Amber alert system in Arkansas is or once was named the Morgan Nick Amber Alert system

  • Kala
    Kala AR
    One day I hope AR will be known for something other than hillbilly accents. 😂 I remember when this happened. So sad! 😢

    One day I hope AR will be known for something other than hillbilly accents. 😂
    I remember when this happened. So sad! 😢

  • Ellen
    Ellen Arkansas
    Great episode! I am, however, disappointed by the lack of discussion here on the blog. Who cares what Arkansas is known for in terms of "hillbilly" accents. I guess you would rather us be known as a state that allows inept police investigations of missing 6-year-old children? Am I the only one that find is weird that Morgan's mother hasn't spoken out against the police officials who made the dumb decision to release an incorrect composite sketch? Why doesn't she care? I can only think of one reason: she approved the decision. Why would she do that? Also, I read in several accounts that the little league that Morgan and her mother were attending started much later than planned. Did someone call and tell them this since they lived in Ozark - a town away? Where were they during that time frame when the game was supposed to start and when it actually started? Who did they interact with? I also don't understand why whatever the man said to the kids at the ballpark has to be a secret. That isn't going to help apprehend the suspect. It could, however, trigger someone's memory to say, "oh, that was ol' Chris Rogers from Alma".... (I made that name up). And what about Morgan's father. Where is he and why doesn't he ever give a statement to the media? Why is it only Morgan's mother? I want to hear from him. I admire her mother for continuing to believe she's coming up but she also needs to get real. The chances are very low and it's time to do something different because these old methods aren't working. Hello! She's been gone for 25 years. Release some correct and reasonable information to help jog memories. But DO SOMETHING!

    Great episode! I am, however, disappointed by the lack of discussion here on the blog. Who cares what Arkansas is known for in terms of "hillbilly" accents. I guess you would rather us be known as a state that allows inept police investigations of missing 6-year-old children? Am I the only one that find is weird that Morgan's mother hasn't spoken out against the police officials who made the dumb decision to release an incorrect composite sketch? Why doesn't she care? I can only think of one reason: she approved the decision. Why would she do that? Also, I read in several accounts that the little league that Morgan and her mother were attending started much later than planned. Did someone call and tell them this since they lived in Ozark - a town away? Where were they during that time frame when the game was supposed to start and when it actually started? Who did they interact with? I also don't understand why whatever the man said to the kids at the ballpark has to be a secret. That isn't going to help apprehend the suspect. It could, however, trigger someone's memory to say, "oh, that was ol' Chris Rogers from Alma".... (I made that name up). And what about Morgan's father. Where is he and why doesn't he ever give a statement to the media? Why is it only Morgan's mother? I want to hear from him. I admire her mother for continuing to believe she's coming up but she also needs to get real. The chances are very low and it's time to do something different because these old methods aren't working. Hello! She's been gone for 25 years. Release some correct and reasonable information to help jog memories. But DO SOMETHING!

  • NancyDrew
    NancyDrew Arkansas
    I read With last night. Here are the points I found that are similar or spot on to the Morgan Nick case. Page 14- Sog had no friends, a loner; the same as Morgan's abducter is believed to be Page 15, Harington describes different towns in Arkansas (Harrison, Berryville, Huntsville, Russellville,even Eureka Springs) and he describes "shopping for a girl." page 18- (Robin) blonde & blue eyed & stopped near her mother's car- as Morgan had stopped near her mother's car the night she was abducted page 21- her parents were divorced. Page 22 describes the mileage distances between Karen Kerr's home and that of her family. I felt this was in relation to Ozark and Alma -- Colleen's home being in Ozark and her mother in Alma. Page 23 describes Robin's favorite food as being spaghetti. Page 24 describes the new bicycle and it mentions the family name of Spurlock which sounds a lot like "Lockwood". This page also mentions how protective "Karen" was over Robin and how her mother encouraged her to leave it up to God and give her room to grow. Page 25 says that Robin hated any green foods. Page 27 lets us know that Robin rode the schoolbus to and from school. Page 28 uses the phrase "stranger danger." Page 33 denotes the old beat up truck. Page 56 Robin's mother won't let her ride her bicycle without her. This page also refers to shoes and socks, which are mentioned again several times in the story- Morgan had stopped to dump sand from her shoes when abducted. Page 57- we are led to believe Robin was not yet an expert bike rider-just learning as we see her crash. Page 68 reminds us of the poor shape of his pick-up. Page 73 seems to describe the character of the abductor -- no friends, etc. page 74 seems like an odd description of a roller rink with bleachers and a balcony that goes outdoors? Page 81 description of the girl -- long, light hair. Page 86 denotes Robin's fear of the dark, woods Page 97 Robin was taken after dark, so was Morgan. Page 99 the FBI was called in right away. Page 112 reminds us that Robin's favorite food is spaghetti & she also likes pizza. Page 113 tells us of Robin's fear of the dark again. Page 129 Robin's b-day is in September. Morgan's was in September. Page 132 Robin loses her first baby tooth. Page 138 Karen wonders aloud if Robin has started sucking her thumb again because of the abduction -- Morgan was a thumb sucker too. How did Harington know this? Page 140 Karen's plea for her daughter is very much like the letter Colleen wrote to Morgan. It is found on their website. Page 141 Karen asks the question, "Do you have any book by the title 'What to do if your child is missing?'" Page 142 describes the abductor again -- seems similiar. Page 167 gives the date of September 12th for Robin's birthdate. Page 198 denotes that a new composite sketch is made to replace the original sketch. Page 199 (grandpa) Leo Spurlock finds a different abducted girl- the man tries to pass himself off as "Uncle" Wayne The girl was thirteen- which was close to Morgan's age at the time this book was being written/went to press. Page 209 mentions the the thumbsucking habit again. Page 248 mentions that perhaps Karen had bought gifts and wrapped them each holiday for her missing daughter. Page 263 mentions the FBI agent that later marries Karen the mother -- could this relate to the FBI agent that we heard about who married a woman in Alma, supposedly he worked Morgan's case and then settled in Alma. Page 353 describes that Karen forms the Robin Kerr League devoted to the prevention of child molestation and the recovery of kidnapping victims. Page 354 Did these helicopter searches happen during that time? Any record of that? Page 407 tells us that Robin's mother had moved from one city to another. Page 426 Robin chooses a book entitled "Lightning Bugs" Page 433 The name "Alma" is mentioned in passing. Page 484 describes how the mother never gave up hope and never stopped looking for Robin. It also describes the organization as a nationwide group of the parents of hundreds, even thousands of abducted children and explains that her mother never gave up hope. This excerpt is from an interview with Brian Walter, it is on Donald Harington's website: (if you look in the front of the book, you will find a page that says, "for Brian Walter and Lynnea Brumbaugh-Walter who believed.") STAYING MORE Harington is already knee-deep in his next novel, about a man who shows movies around the small towns of Newton County during the Depression. He tries to avoid Stay More in his circuit because of some painful childhood associations, but it's a safe bet that he won't manage to stay away from it forever not with Harington generously devising his fate. As for With, Harington is pleased to note the strong early notices it has generated. Publishers Weekly and Kirkus Reviews have already given it starred reviews, and Booklist has praised it warmly. Harington has been writing novels long enough not to try to predict sales figures, but these and other initial responses have certainly been encouraging. Still, if Harington were writing the story of With's fate on the mercurial fiction market, what kind of a happy ending would he devise for it? Would he use the future tense at the end of the story (as he does in all his novels) to let With take the best seller lists by storm in some fond future? If the answer is yes, it will only be yes with an ironic twist. With will vault to No. 1 only the day after the author - in despair over his unending obscurity - will remove himself permanently to Stay More, first after staging his own death to ward off all attempts to track him down. In Stay More, the author will shut off all communication with the outside world, holing himself up to write more stories under a pseudonym. He will never learn that With has made him famous, or that it could have made him rich. All I can say after reading this book is this: Harington was one sick MF.

    I read With last night. Here are the points I found that are similar or spot on to the Morgan Nick case.

    Page 14- Sog had no friends, a loner; the same as Morgan's abducter is believed to be

    Page 15, Harington describes different towns in Arkansas (Harrison,
    Berryville, Huntsville, Russellville,even Eureka Springs) and he describes "shopping for a
    girl."

    page 18- (Robin) blonde & blue eyed & stopped near her mother's car- as Morgan had stopped near her mother's car the night she was abducted
    page 21- her parents were divorced.
    Page 22 describes the mileage distances between Karen Kerr's home and that
    of her family. I felt this was in relation to Ozark and Alma -- Colleen's
    home being in Ozark and her mother in Alma.

    Page 23 describes Robin's favorite food as being spaghetti.

    Page 24 describes the new bicycle and it mentions the family name of
    Spurlock which sounds a lot like "Lockwood". This page also mentions how
    protective "Karen" was over Robin and how her mother encouraged her to leave
    it up to God and give her room to grow.

    Page 25 says that Robin hated any green foods.

    Page 27 lets us know that Robin rode the schoolbus to and from school.

    Page 28 uses the phrase "stranger danger."

    Page 33 denotes the old beat up truck.

    Page 56 Robin's mother won't let her ride her bicycle without her. This page also refers to shoes and socks, which are mentioned again several times in the story- Morgan had stopped to dump sand from her shoes when abducted.
    Page 57- we are led to believe Robin was not yet an expert bike rider-just learning as we see her crash.

    Page 68 reminds us of the poor shape of his pick-up.

    Page 73 seems to describe the character of the abductor -- no friends, etc.

    page 74 seems like an odd description of a roller rink with bleachers and a balcony that goes outdoors?

    Page 81 description of the girl -- long, light hair.

    Page 86 denotes Robin's fear of the dark, woods

    Page 97 Robin was taken after dark, so was Morgan.

    Page 99 the FBI was called in right away.

    Page 112 reminds us that Robin's favorite food is spaghetti & she also likes pizza.
    Page 113 tells us of Robin's fear of the dark again.

    Page 129 Robin's b-day is in September. Morgan's was in September.

    Page 132 Robin loses her first baby tooth.

    Page 138 Karen wonders aloud if Robin has started sucking her thumb again
    because of the abduction -- Morgan was a thumb sucker too. How did Harington know this?

    Page 140 Karen's plea for her daughter is very much like the letter Colleen
    wrote to Morgan. It is found on their website.

    Page 141 Karen asks the question, "Do you have any book by the title 'What
    to do if your child is missing?'"

    Page 142 describes the abductor again -- seems similiar.

    Page 167 gives the date of September 12th for Robin's birthdate.

    Page 198 denotes that a new composite sketch is made to replace the original
    sketch.

    Page 199 (grandpa) Leo Spurlock finds a different abducted girl- the man tries to pass himself off as "Uncle" Wayne The girl was thirteen- which was close to Morgan's age at the time this book was being written/went to press.

    Page 209 mentions the the thumbsucking habit again.

    Page 248 mentions that perhaps Karen had bought gifts and wrapped them each
    holiday for her missing daughter.

    Page 263 mentions the FBI agent that later marries Karen the mother -- could
    this relate to the FBI agent that we heard about who married a woman in
    Alma, supposedly he worked Morgan's case and then settled in Alma.

    Page 353 describes that Karen forms the Robin Kerr League devoted to the
    prevention of child molestation and the recovery of kidnapping victims.

    Page 354 Did these helicopter searches happen during that time? Any record
    of that?
    Page 407 tells us that Robin's mother had moved from one city to another.

    Page 426 Robin chooses a book entitled "Lightning Bugs"

    Page 433 The name "Alma" is mentioned in passing.

    Page 484 describes how the mother never gave up hope and never stopped
    looking for Robin. It also describes the organization as a nationwide group
    of the parents of hundreds, even thousands of abducted children and explains that her mother never gave up hope.

    This excerpt is from an interview with Brian Walter, it is on Donald Harington's website: (if you look in the front of the book, you will find a page that says, "for Brian Walter and Lynnea Brumbaugh-Walter who believed.")

    STAYING MORE Harington is already knee-deep in his next novel, about a man who shows movies around the small towns of Newton County during the Depression. He tries to avoid Stay More in his circuit because of some painful childhood associations, but it's a safe bet that he won't manage to stay away from it forever not with Harington generously devising his fate.
    As for With, Harington is pleased to note the strong early notices it has generated. Publishers Weekly and Kirkus Reviews have already given it starred reviews, and Booklist has praised it warmly. Harington has been writing novels long enough not to try to predict sales figures, but these and other initial responses have certainly been encouraging.
    Still, if Harington were writing the story of With's fate on the mercurial fiction market, what kind of a happy ending would he devise for it? Would he use the future tense at the end of the story (as he does in all his novels) to let With take the best seller lists by storm in some fond future?
    If the answer is yes, it will only be yes with an ironic twist. With will vault to No. 1 only the day after the author - in despair over his unending obscurity - will remove himself permanently to Stay More, first after staging his own death to ward off all attempts to track him down.
    In Stay More, the author will shut off all communication with the outside world, holing himself up to write more stories under a pseudonym. He will never learn that With has made him famous, or that it could have made him rich.

    All I can say after reading this book is this: Harington was one sick MF.

  • Danielle
    Danielle Michigan
    On the kids cartoon Peppa Pig they call their camper a “camper van”. So, you could ban the camper van :)

    On the kids cartoon Peppa Pig they call their camper a “camper van”. So, you could ban the camper van smile

  • PaisleyD
    PaisleyD WI
    great show. i hope this mother gets answers someday and the child gets justice. i just wanted to comment on two things. re the baseball games. depending on if this was official little league, you can't just open up more diamonds. you need the trained officials - tournaments have special rules in addition to regular softball/baseball regs. in my limited experience with my grandkids, regulation little league tournaments take their rules very seriously. re the truck topper. try watching some of these nomad videos. the vehicles that are cobbled together (top 5" too short) stick out like a sore thumb. since the authorities publicized that, i bet they have a reliable witness to it.

    great show. i hope this mother gets answers someday and the child gets justice. i just wanted to comment on two things.
    re the baseball games. depending on if this was official little league, you can't just open up more diamonds. you need the trained officials - tournaments have special rules in addition to regular softball/baseball regs. in my limited experience with my grandkids, regulation little league tournaments take their rules very seriously.
    re the truck topper. try watching some of these nomad videos. the vehicles that are cobbled together (top 5" too short) stick out like a sore thumb. since the authorities publicized that, i bet they have a reliable witness to it.

  • Danielle
    Danielle UT
    I would love to do some fact checking for you! Sign me up!

    I would love to do some fact checking for you! Sign me up!

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Danielle you are too nice, thanks. Cheers Nic

    Danielle you are too nice, thanks.
    Cheers Nic

  • Curious
    Curious Arkansas
    I don’t understand the point of Paisley D’s comment about the little league game rules. No offense at all. I just don’t understand what you are getting at. What am I missing?

    I don’t understand the point of Paisley D’s comment about the little league game rules. No offense at all. I just don’t understand what you are getting at. What am I missing?

  • Petaly
    Petaly Texas
    Celia .... You're wrong. Do some research. Nic wasn't wrong. Don't you think these people do good research. The Morgan Nick Alert System now gives us the ability to get information and pictures out across the state, almost instantaneously, following the initial report of an abduction. The backbone of the Morgan Nick Alert System is the same technology that broadcasters have used for years to warn us of imminent danger — The Emergency Alert System. Arkansas law enforcement agencies now have access, through the Arkansas State Police, to activate the system and spread the word of a child abduction to more than 250 Arkansas radio and television stations.

    Celia .... You're wrong. Do some research.

    Nic wasn't wrong. Don't you think these people do good research.

    The Morgan Nick Alert System now gives us the ability to get information and pictures out across the state, almost instantaneously, following the initial report of an abduction.

    The backbone of the Morgan Nick Alert System is the same technology that broadcasters have used for years to warn us of imminent danger — The Emergency Alert System. Arkansas law enforcement agencies now have access, through the Arkansas State Police, to activate the system and spread the word of a child abduction to more than 250 Arkansas radio and television stations.

  • Julia
    Julia Arkansas
    Petaly, You are wrong, actually. The Morgan Nick Alert is the Arkansas name for the nationally recognized Amber Alert Program designed to alert citizens that a juvenile is missing. For this reason, the Morgan Nick Alert is more formally known as the Morgan Nick Amber Alert. Named after Morgan Nick, a then six-year-old girl who went missing from Alma (Crawford County) in 1995, the Morgan Nick Alert is a partnered approach by local law enforcement, media, and civic groups to increase awareness of a possible abduction and thereby increase the probability of locating a missing child. The National Amber Alert was started in 1996 after the disappearance of Amber Hagerman in Arlington, Texas. Amber’s name was used as an acronym for the alert, which is known as “America’s Missing: Broadcast Emergency Response.” The National Amber Alert is managed under the auspices of the Department of Justice.'' Great information can be found here: https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/morgan-nick-alert-4441/

    Petaly,

    You are wrong, actually. The Morgan Nick Alert is the Arkansas name for the nationally recognized Amber Alert Program designed to alert citizens that a juvenile is missing. For this reason, the Morgan Nick Alert is more formally known as the Morgan Nick Amber Alert. Named after Morgan Nick, a then six-year-old girl who went missing from Alma (Crawford County) in 1995, the Morgan Nick Alert is a partnered approach by local law enforcement, media, and civic groups to increase awareness of a possible abduction and thereby increase the probability of locating a missing child. The National Amber Alert was started in 1996 after the disappearance of Amber Hagerman in Arlington, Texas. Amber’s name was used as an acronym for the alert, which is known as “America’s Missing: Broadcast Emergency Response.” The National Amber Alert is managed under the auspices of the Department of Justice.''

    Great information can be found here: https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/morgan-nick-alert-4441/

  • Cody
    Cody CA
    You mentioned not finding pics of the ballpark from that time period, so I wanted to share the couple I located. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1015356 https://media.thv11.com/assets/KTHV/videos/c527ac6c-6f5a-40ba-8ef2-5a9d6f2c5e19/20190609T222500_Thumb.jpg

    You mentioned not finding pics of the ballpark from that time period, so I wanted to share the couple I located.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1015356
    https://media.thv11.com/assets/KTHV/videos/c527ac6c-6f5a-40ba-8ef2-5a9d6f2c5e19/20190609T222500_Thumb.jpg

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Thank you Julia and Cody! Cheers Nic

    Thank you Julia and Cody!
    Cheers Nic

  • Paula
    Paula Oklahoma
    I am originally from Van Buren Arkansas and I lived in Van Buren when this happened. It shook me to the core. At the time, my daughter was 3 years old. So this has really bothered me for years. The one thing I have always wondered through the years was if the authorities had ever looked into all the members of the Tony Alamo cult, or even former members of this cult. They had property in Dyer Arkansas, which is just a very short distance to Alma. Anyone who is familiar with this area knows that other than the abduction of Morgan Nick, this cult would be the other headlining story to this area. I have seen stories years since about how people, even whole families as well as runaways were forced into this cult and put into human trafficking situations. The authorities didn’t seem to go after this cult until the FBI and IRS got envolved and even when I lived at home back in the seventies, people knew that there was a cult living behind gates that were guarded day and night by armed guards. After Tony Alamo was put in jail, he still had people running his operation. I hope that they have looked into all the members of that cult, especially since human trafficking was part of their game. This cult actually owned properties in Alma for years. I just have always wondered since for such a small town and area if there could possibly be a connection between the two. I will be following your updates. Thanks for keeping little Morgan in our hearts❣️

    I am originally from Van Buren Arkansas and I lived in Van Buren when this happened. It shook me to the core. At the time, my daughter was 3 years old. So this has really bothered me for years. The one thing I have always wondered through the years was if the authorities had ever looked into all the members of the Tony Alamo cult, or even former members of this cult. They had property in Dyer Arkansas, which is just a very short distance to Alma. Anyone who is familiar with this area knows that other than the abduction of Morgan Nick, this cult would be the other headlining story to this area. I have seen stories years since about how people, even whole families as well as runaways were forced into this cult and put into human trafficking situations. The authorities didn’t seem to go after this cult until the FBI and IRS got envolved and even when I lived at home back in the seventies, people knew that there was a cult living behind gates that were guarded day and night by armed guards. After Tony Alamo was put in jail, he still had people running his operation. I hope that they have looked into all the members of that cult, especially since human trafficking was part of their game. This cult actually owned properties in Alma for years. I just have always wondered since for such a small town and area if there could possibly be a connection between the two. I will be following your updates. Thanks for keeping little Morgan in our hearts❣️

  • SuziBeth
    SuziBeth
    As to why camper and/or creepy jorts guy didn't come forward if he/they weren't involved, I wouldn't blame them. We've all heard the stories of innocent people railroaded into prison for cases where there was no viable suspect (or even if there was), inept cops, corrupt prosecutors, etc. I wouldn't want to insinuate myself into a child abduction either.

    As to why camper and/or creepy jorts guy didn't come forward if he/they weren't involved, I wouldn't blame them. We've all heard the stories of innocent people railroaded into prison for cases where there was no viable suspect (or even if there was), inept cops, corrupt prosecutors, etc. I wouldn't want to insinuate myself into a child abduction either.

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