Roxanne Paltauf /// 491 /// 492

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  • Sean
    Sean Texas
    My theory: She was working as a prostitute and was killed by the dude with her ID and covered up him and her boyfriend. This explains why 1- they were regularly changing motels. 2- Why she was only carrying her ID -she didn’t want to be robbed. 3- Why her family didn’t recognize the clothes and why the size was incorrect(if they were too small). ✌🏼

    My theory:
    She was working as a prostitute and was killed by the dude with her ID and covered up him and her boyfriend. This explains why
    1- they were regularly changing motels.
    2- Why she was only carrying her ID -she didn’t want to be robbed.
    3- Why her family didn’t recognize the clothes and why the size was incorrect(if they were too small).
    ✌🏼

  • Rachel
    Rachel O-H-I-O
    “Hey baby, catch yourself the down town bus and meet me at the HoJos.” Oy.

    “Hey baby, catch yourself the down town bus and meet me at the HoJos.” Oy.

  • Steele
    Steele Dirty Jerz
    Family members need to snatch him up and cut his toes off until they get the info they need ..

    Family members need to snatch him up and cut his toes off until they get the info they need ..

  • Kiki K
    Kiki K Bethesda, MD
    Have police looked at the cell phone records for Jeffrey and Louis to see if they were in contact on the day she went missing? Or even if they pinged off towers in the same location? For example, like what police did in the Aaron Hernandez case

    Have police looked at the cell phone records for Jeffrey and Louis to see if they were in contact on the day she went missing? Or even if they pinged off towers in the same location? For example, like what police did in the Aaron Hernandez case

  • Cathy
    Cathy Melbourne, Australia
    Okay, so not a complete theory, but what if Lewis had bought Geoffrey back to the motel with the intention of having Roxanne sell sex to him. She argues and refuses, leaving the room and has Lewis follow her out to try and get her to come back (accounting for part the clerks testimony). After Lewis returns to the room, Geoffrey goes after Roxanne (possibly with or without Lewis). He/They eventually catch up to Roxanne and he/they murder and dispose of her body. Geoffrey takes her ID as a trophy and he and Lewis get their story together

    Okay, so not a complete theory, but what if Lewis had bought Geoffrey back to the motel with the intention of having Roxanne sell sex to him. She argues and refuses, leaving the room and has Lewis follow her out to try and get her to come back (accounting for part the clerks testimony). After Lewis returns to the room, Geoffrey goes after Roxanne (possibly with or without Lewis). He/They eventually catch up to Roxanne and he/they murder and dispose of her body. Geoffrey takes her ID as a trophy and he and Lewis get their story together

  • Mark
    Mark Sydney Australia
    Seems pretty clear. Sounds like Lewis invited his friend/acquaintance Moore to the motel for the purpose of pimping Roxanne out to him. She resisted, was attacked and killed by Moore and possibly Lewis (definitely Moore as he kept the ID as a trophy). The body was then transported away in Moore’s vehicle by both men, hence the movement of the phone. Lewis then returned to the motel and arranged his alibi with his other friend the clerk.

    Seems pretty clear. Sounds like Lewis invited his friend/acquaintance Moore to the motel for the purpose of pimping Roxanne out to him. She resisted, was attacked and killed by Moore and possibly Lewis (definitely Moore as he kept the ID as a trophy). The body was then transported away in Moore’s vehicle by both men, hence the movement of the phone. Lewis then returned to the motel and arranged his alibi with his other friend the clerk.

  • Joe
    Joe Pa
    I do apologize as all info I have on this one is relegated to a lawn cutting listen to these two episodes with no further research. My following comment is pure speculation. Am I the only one who thinks that Roxy was being Pimped out and probably had been for some time. The fact that they are always staying in seedy motels and she has clearly been groomed to fill that role. First thought I had was this girl had more than two Jobs. How solid is the info she had the those two others? I hope it is not based on just the family saying so. Roll the clock forward till today and the family would be saying she worked 60 hours a week as an “ accountant.” I don’t believe they had a typical relationship as boyfriend and girlfriend. I think he pimped her out. I think he took her to strip clubs and other places and ran his “pimp her out” business out of these motels. I actually believe this shit taco’s story that they argued and she left with only her ID (proof of age) for her appointment. He sends her out and hooked up with the motel employee who knows he is not with Roxy, but more the bad boy employer of her. Hence the right questions weren’t asked during the polygraph. I think this shit stain wouldn’t of worried about Roxy until the next day and was Trying to track his employee down the next day. I kind of missed the one lady who was called but claimed she didn’t answer. Maddam maybe? Lines Johns up an gets a peice??? This other guy that had her I’d believe may be truthful up to the point that he had just met them for a cigarette run. But the duo extended there work hotel stay an extra day, possibly because they met this bad guy(not known at the time) and “ boyfriend” talked her into one more job. If the “boyfriend” wasn’t such a piece of shit he could tell the Police exactly where Roxy was going that night. ( May of walked her to the appointment) But he is a scumbag who values not incriminating himself more than what he knows. Police should offer a deal for testimony. I’d rather have her killer hung and the callous prick get off then the thruth never coming out. Maybe that’s just me, but I feel this guy can collapse a whole network and possible solve at least two Murders. Can’t forget the woman who said she’d ask around.

    I do apologize as all info I have on this one is relegated to a lawn cutting listen to these two episodes with no further research. My following comment is pure speculation. Am I the only one who thinks that Roxy was being Pimped out and probably had been for some time. The fact that they are always staying in seedy motels and she has clearly been groomed to fill that role. First thought I had was this girl had more than two Jobs. How solid is the info she had the those two others? I hope it is not based on just the family saying so. Roll the clock forward till today and the family would be saying she worked 60 hours a week as an “ accountant.” I don’t believe they had a typical relationship as boyfriend and girlfriend. I think he pimped her out. I think he took her to strip clubs and other places and ran his “pimp her out” business out of these motels. I actually believe this shit taco’s story that they argued and she left with only her ID (proof of age) for her appointment. He sends her out and hooked up with the motel employee who knows he is not with Roxy, but more the bad boy employer of her. Hence the right questions weren’t asked during the polygraph. I think this shit stain wouldn’t of worried about Roxy until the next day and was Trying to track his employee down the next day. I kind of missed the one lady who was called but claimed she didn’t answer. Maddam maybe? Lines Johns up an gets a peice??? This other guy that had her I’d believe may be truthful up to the point that he had just met them for a cigarette run. But the duo extended there work hotel stay an extra day, possibly because they met this bad guy(not known at the time) and “ boyfriend” talked her into one more job. If the “boyfriend” wasn’t such a piece of shit he could tell the Police exactly where Roxy was going that night. ( May of walked her to the appointment) But he is a scumbag who values not incriminating himself more than what he knows. Police should offer a deal for testimony. I’d rather have her killer hung and the callous prick get off then the thruth never coming out. Maybe that’s just me, but I feel this guy can collapse a whole network and possible solve at least two Murders. Can’t forget the woman who said she’d ask around.

  • Mark McCoy
    Mark McCoy York
    First time listener and impressed but the guy who calls himself The Captain should stop with the juvenile name calling. The host Nick should gag the Captain.

    First time listener and impressed but the guy who calls himself The Captain should stop with the juvenile name calling. The host Nick should gag the Captain.

  • Mrs Bender
    Mrs Bender Iowa
    This poor family. I cannot even imagine their pain. To know this scumbag, or pair of scumbags, are walking the streets and are guilty AF but nothing can be done until they have more concrete evidence is just heartbreaking. Did the police ever check traffic cameras or the hotel surveillance around the time of her disappearance? Was any of that available at the time? I mean I know this was 15 years ago, but even then there were security cameras around. So another thing I am curious about, is with all the circumstantial evidence on these two crazies, why are they not sitting in a jail cell somewhere? People have been convicted on much less evidence than they have on these guys.

    This poor family. I cannot even imagine their pain. To know this scumbag, or pair of scumbags, are walking the streets and are guilty AF but nothing can be done until they have more concrete evidence is just heartbreaking. Did the police ever check traffic cameras or the hotel surveillance around the time of her disappearance? Was any of that available at the time? I mean I know this was 15 years ago, but even then there were security cameras around. So another thing I am curious about, is with all the circumstantial evidence on these two crazies, why are they not sitting in a jail cell somewhere? People have been convicted on much less evidence than they have on these guys.

  • Kell
    Kell Arizona
    I really don't like what I'm thinking. Maybe Roxanne wasn't killed resisting being rented out to Jeffrey. Maybe she was killed because killing her is what Jeff purchased. It certainly looks like Lewis was already prostituting her. I don't believe they were meeting up in these loser motels just to hang out. Why why why did she put up with it? Was she afraid? Did she have some lack in her own valuation of herself? Most likely, she didn't see a way out. Lewis had already beat the shit out of her. She may have felt that if she tried to leave this life, Louis would have killed her anyway. Did Lewis have more money available after Roxanne was killed? Is that why he was able to bribe the desk clerk to give a bogus alibi for him? There's so much more to what was going on. He wasn't her boyfriend. He was her terrorist.

    I really don't like what I'm thinking. Maybe Roxanne wasn't killed resisting being rented out to Jeffrey. Maybe she was killed because killing her is what Jeff purchased. It certainly looks like Lewis was already prostituting her. I don't believe they were meeting up in these loser motels just to hang out. Why why why did she put up with it? Was she afraid? Did she have some lack in her own valuation of herself? Most likely, she didn't see a way out. Lewis had already beat the shit out of her. She may have felt that if she tried to leave this life, Louis would have killed her anyway. Did Lewis have more money available after Roxanne was killed? Is that why he was able to bribe the desk clerk to give a bogus alibi for him? There's so much more to what was going on. He wasn't her boyfriend. He was her terrorist.

  • ashley
    ashley delta
    I have a theory about the drivers license. I doubt seriously that Louis would have known whether Roxanne had her ID on her or not...so, the reason he mentioned that she took the ID with her is b/c he knew he planted it in his friend Geoffrey Moore's vehicle or even put it in his wallet to frame him Geoffrey may or may not have helped dispose of the body, but Louis knew exactly where her ID was.

    I have a theory about the drivers license. I doubt seriously that Louis would have known whether Roxanne had her ID on her or not...so, the reason he mentioned that she took the ID with her is b/c he knew he planted it in his friend Geoffrey Moore's vehicle or even put it in his wallet to frame him
    Geoffrey may or may not have helped dispose of the body, but Louis knew exactly where her ID was.

  • ElleSnaps
    ElleSnaps East Texas
    Were there any clues in the murder of the sex worker? and connections ever made?

    Were there any clues in the murder of the sex worker? and connections ever made?

  • Luciana S
    Luciana S
    I concur, I think that Louis didn’t act alone. I think he and Jeffery both know what happened to Roxanne. I also find it difficult to believe that she left with only her ID, Louis’ story doesn’t make sense. I hope her family receives answers one day.

    I concur, I think that Louis didn’t act alone. I think he and Jeffery both know what happened to Roxanne. I also find it difficult to believe that she left with only her ID, Louis’ story doesn’t make sense. I hope her family receives answers one day.

  • Joe
    Joe PA
    Question on June 6th? Does nobody have a approved opinion on this case or are the Beers in Austin really that dang tasty?

    Question on June 6th? Does nobody have a approved opinion on this case or are the Beers in Austin really that dang tasty?

  • helsey
    helsey OZ
    I think this case easily could have been done in one episode it then may have held my intest.,it pains me to say that cos I count the days waiting for new episodes luckily I still had OTR or I would been totally without any TCG 🍻

    I think this case easily could have been done in one episode it then may have held my intest.,it pains me to say that cos I count the days waiting for new episodes luckily I still had OTR or I would been totally without any TCG
    🍻

  • Tanya
    Tanya Ecuador
    Well I think this case seems pretty easy. Boyfriend was a horrible guy, forced her into 'getting money' through sex work, didn't care two-cents about her. He arranged to sell her to a guy he knew was violent with women. The boyfriend and Roxy fought... But she in frustration/anger agreed to go... Walking away. (Not sure how near.. But you said hotels were near each other). He 'messed up' sending her there.. Guy killed her... Boyfriend walks over to check and learns she is dead. They dispose of body, boyfriend gets back and hooks up with clerk. CYA. I think his only crime.. Selling her to someone he knew (because he knew him before) was violent.. Or even killer. Based on what happened with other victim, the background of the boyfriend, and Roxy's apparent 'resistance.. Turns to compliance' behavior.. I'd say that's the most reasonable chain of events.

    Well I think this case seems pretty easy. Boyfriend was a horrible guy, forced her into 'getting money' through sex work, didn't care two-cents about her. He arranged to sell her to a guy he knew was violent with women. The boyfriend and Roxy fought... But she in frustration/anger agreed to go... Walking away. (Not sure how near.. But you said hotels were near each other). He 'messed up' sending her there.. Guy killed her... Boyfriend walks over to check and learns she is dead. They dispose of body, boyfriend gets back and hooks up with clerk. CYA. I think his only crime.. Selling her to someone he knew (because he knew him before) was violent.. Or even killer.
    Based on what happened with other victim, the background of the boyfriend, and Roxy's apparent 'resistance.. Turns to compliance' behavior.. I'd say that's the most reasonable chain of events.

  • Kelly Chapman
    Kelly Chapman Dana point ca
    Love the show but the Roxanne case is as transparent as the glass pipe that Roxy her boyfriend and the hotel clerk were sucking on .Yes drugs explain everything .Why did 18 year old Roxy leave with only ID and pocket money or no money , because she was coming back after after buying drugs or earning the money in a high risk manner to buy the drugs , was she a smoker she may have needed the ID to bus smokes Why was the boyfriend and hotel clerk "hooked up" in the room till 3 am and why wasn't the boyfriend concerned about Roxy walking in on them because they were doing drugs not having sex why did the third man have Roxy's ID because the boyfriend pimped her out to him and he got pissed and deposed of her when she didn't provide everything the boyfriend had promised .

    Love the show but the Roxanne case is as transparent as the glass pipe that Roxy her boyfriend and the hotel clerk were sucking on .Yes drugs explain everything .Why did 18 year old Roxy leave with only ID and pocket money or no money , because she was coming back after after buying drugs or earning the money in a high risk manner to buy the drugs , was she a smoker she may have needed the ID to bus smokes
    Why was the boyfriend and hotel clerk "hooked up" in the room till 3 am and why wasn't the boyfriend concerned about Roxy walking in on them because they were doing drugs not having sex why did the third man have Roxy's ID because the boyfriend pimped her out to him and he got pissed and deposed of her when she didn't provide everything the boyfriend had promised .

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    @ All, Sorry for the slow to post here. We loved Austin, it was a great Crime Con and a great city. The local beers were good but the people we got to meet and talk to were really the highlight of the trip. We did 6 events in 3 days, it was a lot of work but even more fun. Thanks to everyone in Austin and the ones who came in from all over. We hope to see as many of you as possible next year in Vegas. Cheers Nic

    @ All,
    Sorry for the slow to post here. We loved Austin, it was a great Crime Con and a great city. The local beers were good but the people we got to meet and talk to were really the highlight of the trip. We did 6 events in 3 days, it was a lot of work but even more fun. Thanks to everyone in Austin and the ones who came in from all over. We hope to see as many of you as possible next year in Vegas.
    Cheers Nic

  • Dave
    Dave Niagara Falls
    It seems pretty straight forward. This guy was an older dude who prayed on younger women. Grooming them. Thought of himself as a gangster. Equals wanna be pimp. I think she was in over her head and was rented out to this Moore guy who beat the crap out of her. If he didn’t kill her he probably left her in rough shape so they had to get rid of her. The cops dropped the ball big time when they arrested Moore and found her ID in his wallet. Hey let’s not check and see if this is a missing person or not. Sad deal. My heart breaks for the family. One way or another they will get caught!!

    It seems pretty straight forward. This guy was an older dude who prayed on younger women. Grooming them. Thought of himself as a gangster. Equals wanna be pimp. I think she was in over her head and was rented out to this Moore guy who beat the crap out of her. If he didn’t kill her he probably left her in rough shape so they had to get rid of her. The cops dropped the ball big time when they arrested Moore and found her ID in his wallet. Hey let’s not check and see if this is a missing person or not. Sad deal. My heart breaks for the family. One way or another they will get caught!!

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