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  • Cookie
    Cookie Topeka, Kansas
    The Delphi murders have lots of similarities. The strangest one goes unreported. Evansdale date: 7/13/12 the inverse of the Delphi date: 2-13-17. But that's not the strange part. The time difference is 5 years. The time difference of the victims ages is also 5 years. As hard it is to pull off this there are too many coincidences to be a coincidence.

    The Delphi murders have lots of similarities. The strangest one goes unreported. Evansdale date: 7/13/12 the inverse of the Delphi date: 2-13-17. But that's not the strange part. The time difference is 5 years. The time difference of the victims ages is also 5 years. As hard it is to pull off this there are too many coincidences to be a coincidence.

  • Justene
    Justene MN
    Sounds so much like the Delphi case.

    Sounds so much like the Delphi case.

  • Pam D
    Pam D Ohio
    Can you explain to my why it was determined that there is no connection between these murders and the Delphi murders? So many similarities!

    Can you explain to my why it was determined that there is no connection between these murders and the Delphi murders? So many similarities!

  • Amy
    Amy KCMO
    funny you talk about that bell Nic, my neighbors growing up also had one of those. when they rang that bell, you could hear it all over the neighborhood & their kids knew it was time to get your butts home! thinking i will do this for my kids too when they get older! what a sad sad case. poor kids. it makes me so sad they cant just ride around anymore and be kids!!!

    funny you talk about that bell Nic, my neighbors growing up also had one of those. when they rang that bell, you could hear it all over the neighborhood & their kids knew it was time to get your butts home! thinking i will do this for my kids too when they get older!

    what a sad sad case. poor kids. it makes me so sad they cant just ride around anymore and be kids!!!

  • Toni D.
    Toni D. SAT
    I was stunned to hear how many sex offenders are in Iowa. I guess I shouldn't be---to me it seems that most of Iowa is all rural; I could be wrong, I've only driven through Waterloo on my way to Minnesota. This case to me is just like the Delphi murders. Is it because they're children that the details of how they are killed aren't shared? The same for Delphi as well---the details weren't shared. I just wonder if the LEO's involved in both of these cases are considering that maybe it's the same killer? The dates are very interesting, that maybe the time in between 2012 and 2017 there are other dates as well that have a pattern such as this? I don't think that it's a coincidence. Regardless, it is a very sad case.

    I was stunned to hear how many sex offenders are in Iowa. I guess I shouldn't be---to me it seems that most of Iowa is all rural; I could be wrong, I've only driven through Waterloo on my way to Minnesota. This case to me is just like the Delphi murders. Is it because they're children that the details of how they are killed aren't shared? The same for Delphi as well---the details weren't shared. I just wonder if the LEO's involved in both of these cases are considering that maybe it's the same killer? The dates are very interesting, that maybe the time in between 2012 and 2017 there are other dates as well that have a pattern such as this? I don't think that it's a coincidence. Regardless, it is a very sad case.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Hi Toni, I think they are holding back the cause of death and details of the crimes just to clear up any potential nonsense. These cases tend to blow up in the media and then the crazies come out with accusations and false confessions. If a confessor does not know how they were killed you can easily sight this and then move on. Rather than waste valuable time and resources on a false confession. The dates are less important to me than the details of the crimes. This is because numbers and dates contrary to in the movies are just not that important to serial killers. The number of victims would be - so that makes it interesting. They could be connected or they could not be. It's possible that both were committed by a serial offender but not the same offender. These types are often out trolling for potential victims a lot and unfortunately they take what they can regardless of the date. cheers nic

    Hi Toni,
    I think they are holding back the cause of death and details of the crimes just to clear up any potential nonsense. These cases tend to blow up in the media and then the crazies come out with accusations and false confessions. If a confessor does not know how they were killed you can easily sight this and then move on. Rather than waste valuable time and resources on a false confession.
    The dates are less important to me than the details of the crimes. This is because numbers and dates contrary to in the movies are just not that important to serial killers. The number of victims would be - so that makes it interesting. They could be connected or they could not be. It's possible that both were committed by a serial offender but not the same offender. These types are often out trolling for potential victims a lot and unfortunately they take what they can regardless of the date.
    cheers nic

  • Ty
    Ty Jackson
    Klunder does seem like a near-perfect suspect, someone who was gradually escalating toward committing a crime like the Evansdale murders as his MO evolved and he got bolder. But the disqualification of him by police and the use of the phrase "forensic differences" is a strong hint that they have DNA from the Evansdale case, and it doesn't match Klunder's. So why can't they use it to track down the Evansdale killer? Theory: I think the police in Evansdale and the police in the Snapchat/Delphi murders have something similar -- a bad DNA sample, possibly from the killer's saliva, which can sometimes contain very little DNA, and can degrade significantly through exposure. I don't know if this is really possible (maybe someone on here will know) but I'm wondering if the police could have genetic material sufficient to enable them to rule OUT a known suspect, but not sufficient to use for a CODIS or GED Match -type approach to help them rule IN, or locate, an unknown suspect.

    Klunder does seem like a near-perfect suspect, someone who was gradually escalating toward committing a crime like the Evansdale murders as his MO evolved and he got bolder. But the disqualification of him by police and the use of the phrase "forensic differences" is a strong hint that they have DNA from the Evansdale case, and it doesn't match Klunder's. So why can't they use it to track down the Evansdale killer? Theory: I think the police in Evansdale and the police in the Snapchat/Delphi murders have something similar -- a bad DNA sample, possibly from the killer's saliva, which can sometimes contain very little DNA, and can degrade significantly through exposure. I don't know if this is really possible (maybe someone on here will know) but I'm wondering if the police could have genetic material sufficient to enable them to rule OUT a known suspect, but not sufficient to use for a CODIS or GED Match -type approach to help them rule IN, or locate, an unknown suspect.

  • Christian
    Christian MA
    Nic & Cap, I've only listened to the first of the 2 eps. so far, but the thing about Carpenter sighting them @1020 Lake Ave rings true to me, and here's why: if you imagine them on bikes, getting on the Trail from up by their house up near the Fareway at Lafayette, you take the trail south quite a ways through many small intersections, trees on both sides, and then things look like they "open up" after you pass the skatepark at the big intersection of Gilbert Dr. and there's a crossing trail there - it heads to the right (West)... I'll bet they missed the sign to the lake (that they should have just continued across Gilbert south on their original trail) and instead turned to the right, rode 3 blocks west and were like "hang on, where's the lake?"... then looked across Gilbert, saw LAKE AVE and thought "ok, here's a likely way to go, we must be close." #1020 is the corner house of Lake and GIlbert also, so if Carpenter's outside it's perfect: right away here's someone who can help them. I'd love to know what he told them/exactly where he told them to go.

    Nic & Cap, I've only listened to the first of the 2 eps. so far, but the thing about Carpenter sighting them @1020 Lake Ave rings true to me, and here's why: if you imagine them on bikes, getting on the Trail from up by their house up near the Fareway at Lafayette, you take the trail south quite a ways through many small intersections, trees on both sides, and then things look like they "open up" after you pass the skatepark at the big intersection of Gilbert Dr. and there's a crossing trail there - it heads to the right (West)...
    I'll bet they missed the sign to the lake (that they should have just continued across Gilbert south on their original trail) and instead turned to the right, rode 3 blocks west and were like "hang on, where's the lake?"... then looked across Gilbert, saw LAKE AVE and thought "ok, here's a likely way to go, we must be close." #1020 is the corner house of Lake and GIlbert also, so if Carpenter's outside it's perfect: right away here's someone who can help them. I'd love to know what he told them/exactly where he told them to go.

  • Fredbert's Mom
    Fredbert's Mom Quasqueton, IA
    I live less than an hour's drive from Evansville and it is so bothersome that this case is still unsolved. As always, you presented information clearly with respect for the victims and their families.

    I live less than an hour's drive from Evansville and it is so bothersome that this case is still unsolved. As always, you presented information clearly with respect for the victims and their families.

  • Christina
    Christina Duluth MN
    I’m so glad you guys did this case! I’ve always felt this was connected to Delphi. I still think it could be, but you did point out some differences. I would still love to find out what leads investigators to believe they’re not connected. I don’t think the distance is that far to rule it out. It’s logical to believe someone could grow up in one town and have grandparents or maybe parents divorced and living a few hours away. This person could easily be comfortable and well aware of both areas that are mainly known to locals.

    I’m so glad you guys did this case! I’ve always felt this was connected to Delphi. I still think it could be, but you did point out some differences. I would still love to find out what leads investigators to believe they’re not connected.
    I don’t think the distance is that far to rule it out. It’s logical to believe someone could grow up in one town and have grandparents or maybe parents divorced and living a few hours away. This person could easily be comfortable and well aware of both areas that are mainly known to locals.

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