The Murdaugh Murders /// 4 Part Series /// 547-550

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  • Pete
    Pete Beaufort, SC
    Good story that will become a movie.............However you keep pronoucing Beaufort and Murdaugh incorrectly. Beaufort, SC is not pronounced "Bowfort" that is the NC Beaufort. It is pronounced BeUfort During the story you changed the Murdaugh's name into Murdock's I am just trying to help you get it right.............and this story is going to continue to develop.

    Good story that will become a movie.............However you keep pronoucing Beaufort and Murdaugh incorrectly.

    Beaufort, SC is not pronounced "Bowfort" that is the NC Beaufort. It is pronounced BeUfort
    During the story you changed the Murdaugh's name into Murdock's

    I am just trying to help you get it right.............and this story is going to continue to develop.

  • Dayna
    Dayna Fort Knox, KY
    Came on to say what Pete said. Maybe you should have watched local news reports available on YouTube. I love your podcast and was excited you were covering this story. We lived in Beaufort, SC for 3 years when my husband was in the Marines. And we had friends who lived in Hampton. Disappointed you didn’t do enough research to know how to pronounce the name of the town.

    Came on to say what Pete said. Maybe you should have watched local news reports available on YouTube. I love your podcast and was excited you were covering this story. We lived in Beaufort, SC for 3 years when my husband was in the Marines. And we had friends who lived in Hampton. Disappointed you didn’t do enough research to know how to pronounce the name of the town.

  • Amy
    Amy KCMO
    so glad you guys are doing this one!! Listening now!

    so glad you guys are doing this one!! Listening now!

  • Michelle Tackabery
    Michelle Tackabery Raleigh, NC
    Nic, you pronounced "Beaufort" pretty well. A lot of NC natives say it incorrectly. I know the writer of several definitive histories of the town, and it was named for what French travelers called "pretty town " BU-fert is colloquial, but wrong. "Murdaugh" has been sounded in the Raleigh news as both "Mur-DOCK" and "Mur-DAW." There are a lot of "Daugherty" and "Dougherty" names in NC, and both have been sounded like "DOCK-er-tee." I took a class at NC State with Walt Wolfram, an expert on NC dialects. Like most everywhere, it depends. Thanks, y'all. Now, let's not fight.

    Nic, you pronounced "Beaufort" pretty well. A lot of NC natives say it incorrectly. I know the writer of several definitive histories of the town, and it was named for what French travelers called "pretty town "

    BU-fert is colloquial, but wrong.

    "Murdaugh" has been sounded in the Raleigh news as both "Mur-DOCK" and "Mur-DAW." There are a lot of "Daugherty" and "Dougherty" names in NC, and both have been sounded like "DOCK-er-tee." I took a class at NC State with Walt Wolfram, an expert on NC dialects. Like most everywhere, it depends. Thanks, y'all. Now, let's not fight.

  • RustyShackleford
    RustyShackleford FLMansBasement
    this one is so interesting. Im glad youre going well in depth but I feel like waiting for the next 2 to drop next week, Im going to forget all these crazy details. Drop all the episodes, I wanna binge! Lol. Also, Paul looks like a literal child. Im 27 and look young for my age, but he looks like 14 from the pictures I've seen... so weird that he could "get away" with buying alcohol under age.

    this one is so interesting. Im glad youre going well in depth but I feel like waiting for the next 2 to drop next week, Im going to forget all these crazy details. Drop all the episodes, I wanna binge! Lol.

    Also, Paul looks like a literal child. Im 27 and look young for my age, but he looks like 14 from the pictures I've seen... so weird that he could "get away" with buying alcohol under age.

  • Kristie
    Kristie Pennsylvania
    Love these episodes! I have listened to others' coverage of this case and none have placed such an emphasis on the victim. Job well done and thank you for looking out for the victims and making sure no one forgets about them.

    Love these episodes! I have listened to others' coverage of this case and none have placed such an emphasis on the victim. Job well done and thank you for looking out for the victims and making sure no one forgets about them.

  • Melanie
    Melanie Seattle
    It has never been proven "The kid" was the driver of the boat. Connor Cook girlfriend original statement Connor Cook was the driver. They were all drinking He is dead and cannot defend himself Connor Cook had purchased a fake ID

    It has never been proven "The kid" was the driver of the boat. Connor Cook girlfriend original statement Connor Cook was the driver. They were all drinking He is dead and cannot defend himself Connor Cook had purchased a fake ID

  • Cee Bee
    Cee Bee
    Melanie, is this you Buster? Of course, the thing with emergency calls isn't how you sound... it's how FAKE you sound, and Alex Potarto gets an 8/10 for that. (Except in his reaction to being asked if he was at a mobile home lol). Thinking of Mallory and her loved ones xox

    Melanie, is this you Buster?

    Of course, the thing with emergency calls isn't how you sound... it's how FAKE you sound, and Alex Potarto gets an 8/10 for that. (Except in his reaction to being asked if he was at a mobile home lol).

    Thinking of Mallory and her loved ones xox

  • Nicole
    Nicole IN
    Ok, so the 911 call gets me every time. I crack up laughing when he pauses and screams "IT'S A HOUSE!" He is so careful the entire call to have the presence of mind to respond with "yes m'am" and say all the right things like "I just got home." He answers a little too fast to the questions and he is absolutely confident that whomever shot his wife and son did NOT stick around hiding in the bushes waiting to shoot him. He is ready for every question he expects. But when the dispatcher asks if he lives in a house or a mobile home, there is a long pause while he works out what she just said and his facade drops and he screams at her with the attitude of an entitled, arrogant rich person in power that is offended by such a thought as living in a mobile home. He is the douchiest of the Douche Canoes.

    Ok, so the 911 call gets me every time. I crack up laughing when he pauses and screams "IT'S A HOUSE!" He is so careful the entire call to have the presence of mind to respond with "yes m'am" and say all the right things like "I just got home." He answers a little too fast to the questions and he is absolutely confident that whomever shot his wife and son did NOT stick around hiding in the bushes waiting to shoot him. He is ready for every question he expects. But when the dispatcher asks if he lives in a house or a mobile home, there is a long pause while he works out what she just said and his facade drops and he screams at her with the attitude of an entitled, arrogant rich person in power that is offended by such a thought as living in a mobile home. He is the douchiest of the Douche Canoes.

  • chris
    chris fl
    I mostly agree with Melanie so far. I appreciate our hosts don't like the murdaugh clan much, but there's not much here to convict. A bunch of drunken teens playing stupid games and winning stupid prizes as near I can tell. Anyway, I just wanted to say innocent until proven applies to the wealthy, too... Some conflicting accounts. What really hit a chord with me was Nic's comments on the elder Murdaugh's behavior at hospital I think the episode is reading too much into the, "don't talk to law enforcement until you have counsel" thing. Every lawyer, family or not, will tell you that same thing -- in every situation, even if you think you're the victim or even a hero or guilty of some crime but definitely not the big crime. Truly--your best bet is to first get counsel and then talk to the cops. Prosecutors are not your friend, and they are usually charge-happy. Minimally, LE or the state will want to squeeze you if only to guarantee your ongoing cooperation. Finally, it is common in cases where race or wealth/privilege or political connectedness is expected to be an issue to convene a grand jury and let them decide whether to charge. Previously in our country, by law, only grand juries could charge a crime--in many ways a better time because now prosecutors wield way way too much power. Anyway, grand juries are used now in some cases (where allowed by state law) to head off even the whiff of corruption. I believe the Arbury case was grand juried, for example. It's a way for a the prosecutor to hold the hot potato arms length.

    I mostly agree with Melanie so far. I appreciate our hosts don't like the murdaugh clan much, but there's not much here to convict. A bunch of drunken teens playing stupid games and winning stupid prizes as near I can tell. Anyway, I just wanted to say innocent until proven applies to the wealthy, too... Some conflicting accounts.

    What really hit a chord with me was Nic's comments on the elder Murdaugh's behavior at hospital I think the episode is reading too much into the, "don't talk to law enforcement until you have counsel" thing. Every lawyer, family or not, will tell you that same thing -- in every situation, even if you think you're the victim or even a hero or guilty of some crime but definitely not the big crime. Truly--your best bet is to first get counsel and then talk to the cops. Prosecutors are not your friend, and they are usually charge-happy. Minimally, LE or the state will want to squeeze you if only to guarantee your ongoing cooperation.

    Finally, it is common in cases where race or wealth/privilege or political connectedness is expected to be an issue to convene a grand jury and let them decide whether to charge. Previously in our country, by law, only grand juries could charge a crime--in many ways a better time because now prosecutors wield way way too much power. Anyway, grand juries are used now in some cases (where allowed by state law) to head off even the whiff of corruption. I believe the Arbury case was grand juried, for example. It's a way for a the prosecutor to hold the hot potato arms length.

  • Robbie L
    Robbie L Michigan
    In the first episode, the captain struggles with calling the scene an accident. According to the Prosecutors podcast, calling incidences similar to the boat crash previously listed should be referred to as a collision, not an accident. This helps make the crash more neutral. The case the Prosecutors were referring to was the Diane Schuler.

    In the first episode, the captain struggles with calling the scene an accident. According to the Prosecutors podcast, calling incidences similar to the boat crash previously listed should be referred to as a collision, not an accident. This helps make the crash more neutral. The case the Prosecutors were referring to was the Diane Schuler.

  • Broadpath
    Broadpath Everywhere
    Fascinating story about this fucked up family. I do hope you mention Mandy and The Murdaugh Murders podcast. She is earning a Pulitzer with her investigation (you must be aware of her). I appreciate you mentioned Fits News. Please give Mandy some respect too. Thanks guys! Love, love your show.

    Fascinating story about this fucked up family. I do hope you mention Mandy and The Murdaugh Murders podcast. She is earning a Pulitzer with her investigation (you must be aware of her). I appreciate you mentioned Fits News. Please give Mandy some respect too.

    Thanks guys! Love, love your show.

  • Helsey
    Helsey Oz
    Who carers if the POS isn't here to defend himself he had more time than HIS victim ... Remembering Mallory Beach .

    Who carers if the POS isn't here to defend himself he had more time than HIS victim ...
    Remembering
    Mallory Beach .

  • Brenna
    Brenna PA
    A previous commenter mentioned your incorrect pronunciation of Murdaugh, but you said it correctly. Murdock is literally how Alex himself pronounces it. Y’all state that Alex has a solid alibi, but according to Mandy Matney, who has been investigating this family for something like three years, that’s not the case. You mentioned video footage; is that fact or speculation? As far as I know, Alex was visiting his elderly parents who have dementia, and his father died days later. That doesn’t feel solid to me at all! All of that aside, isn’t it kinda sketchy that Alex’s dad died immediately after the double homicide? My imagination ran wild and wondered if Alex pulled the plug. I’m definitely not trying to diminish his illness, that wild thought just came to mind.

    A previous commenter mentioned your incorrect pronunciation of Murdaugh, but you said it correctly. Murdock is literally how Alex himself pronounces it.

    Y’all state that Alex has a solid alibi, but according to Mandy Matney, who has been investigating this family for something like three years, that’s not the case. You mentioned video footage; is that fact or speculation? As far as I know, Alex was visiting his elderly parents who have dementia, and his father died days later. That doesn’t feel solid to me at all!

    All of that aside, isn’t it kinda sketchy that Alex’s dad died immediately after the double homicide? My imagination ran wild and wondered if Alex pulled the plug. I’m definitely not trying to diminish his illness, that wild thought just came to mind.

  • Kelly B
    Kelly B
    What's up with the police and the lack of procuring evidence against this kid because of who his Daddy and Granddaddy were? It should not make a damn bit of difference who they are, a young girl died, and this family had ZERO things to say about it. It was their family boat! And the phone call Alex/Alec was overheard at the hospital, "she's gone, we will deal with that later." How did he know? Look at the written statements.....they know who was driving the boat, they just don't want to do anything about it. Money speaks pretty loudly. Listen to the interviews that were provided and look at the actions of the rich, entitled father of the rich, entitled, drunken son with the BAC 3 times the legal limit telling everyone to shut up. I still hold that Alex/Alec killed his wife and son, to cover up a big pile of dirty laundry and do something about all the lawsuits thrown at them. It is interesting to me that not once was Paul mentioned in the lawsuits, not even after he was indicted. Alex/Alec knew his father was dying, and he would inherit some money. The fact that the murders of Maggie and Paul came only 3 days before his own father died should send up some huge red flags. He is creating loss for personal gain. I was interested in the fact that the family attorney said there was no life insurance on the Murdaughs. The biggest reason you would not have life insurance on yourself, your spouse or your children is if you cannot afford it. 86 years of a thriving law practice, and you cannot afford/do not have life insurance? His 911 call should also be a big red flag. The way he was acting is rehearsed. The fact that he was absolutely indignant about the mobile home question clearly points to him as a prime suspect, he was taken aback by that question he had not planned on being asked.

    What's up with the police and the lack of procuring evidence against this kid because of who his Daddy and Granddaddy were? It should not make a damn bit of difference who they are, a young girl died, and this family had ZERO things to say about it. It was their family boat! And the phone call Alex/Alec was overheard at the hospital, "she's gone, we will deal with that later." How did he know? Look at the written statements.....they know who was driving the boat, they just don't want to do anything about it. Money speaks pretty loudly. Listen to the interviews that were provided and look at the actions of the rich, entitled father of the rich, entitled, drunken son with the BAC 3 times the legal limit telling everyone to shut up. I still hold that Alex/Alec killed his wife and son, to cover up a big pile of dirty laundry and do something about all the lawsuits thrown at them. It is interesting to me that not once was Paul mentioned in the lawsuits, not even after he was indicted. Alex/Alec knew his father was dying, and he would inherit some money. The fact that the murders of Maggie and Paul came only 3 days before his own father died should send up some huge red flags. He is creating loss for personal gain. I was interested in the fact that the family attorney said there was no life insurance on the Murdaughs. The biggest reason you would not have life insurance on yourself, your spouse or your children is if you cannot afford it. 86 years of a thriving law practice, and you cannot afford/do not have life insurance? His 911 call should also be a big red flag. The way he was acting is rehearsed. The fact that he was absolutely indignant about the mobile home question clearly points to him as a prime suspect, he was taken aback by that question he had not planned on being asked.

  • Nicholas Macarages
    Nicholas Macarages
    I'm not sure why you guys come down hard on LE for not collecting Paul's phone. Paul is smart enough to know that he shouldn't incriminate himself. LE could not take the phone without a warrant. Regarding the weapons..... So the main advantage to a .300 BLK (300 Blackout) round is how quiet it is. They call it a whisper round when it is suppressed because of how quiet it is. It was designed to be suppressed. So the fact that a shotgun (which is extremely loud) and a .300 BLK was used makes me think that something crazy went down. I don't think both were the intended targets because of the weapons used. I could be wrong, but that just seems extremely strange. I know criminals don't always make sense, but that part stood out to me.

    I'm not sure why you guys come down hard on LE for not collecting Paul's phone. Paul is smart enough to know that he shouldn't incriminate himself. LE could not take the phone without a warrant.

    Regarding the weapons.....
    So the main advantage to a .300 BLK (300 Blackout) round is how quiet it is. They call it a whisper round when it is suppressed because of how quiet it is. It was designed to be suppressed. So the fact that a shotgun (which is extremely loud) and a .300 BLK was used makes me think that something crazy went down. I don't think both were the intended targets because of the weapons used. I could be wrong, but that just seems extremely strange. I know criminals don't always make sense, but that part stood out to me.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    @ Broadpath - thanks for posting. Yes, I have seen Mandy on TV and a big kudos to her for reporting on this case from the "boat crash, collision, murder" - everyone wants me to call it something different. I have heard that Mandy's podcast is great and will name drop when appropriate. I did not use the podcast as a resource though for this case. When possible I try to stick with the investigative journalist, TC authors and local news outlets. Sometimes podcasts are full of opinions - not saying that Mandy's is, I don't know. This case took more work than most that we do here weekly. Some I'm glad we can do a four part series here. I'm also very glad and excited for Mandy to receive an award for her work. From everything I have seen and heard - she has done amazing work. I'll be giving it a listen after we get done with our records. Cheers Nic

    @ Broadpath - thanks for posting. Yes, I have seen Mandy on TV and a big kudos to her for reporting on this case from the "boat crash, collision, murder" - everyone wants me to call it something different. I have heard that Mandy's podcast is great and will name drop when appropriate. I did not use the podcast as a resource though for this case. When possible I try to stick with the investigative journalist, TC authors and local news outlets. Sometimes podcasts are full of opinions - not saying that Mandy's is, I don't know. This case took more work than most that we do here weekly. Some I'm glad we can do a four part series here. I'm also very glad and excited for Mandy to receive an award for her work. From everything I have seen and heard - she has done amazing work. I'll be giving it a listen after we get done with our records.
    Cheers Nic

  • GPK
    GPK SC
    You butchered the pronunciation of Beaufort. It’s BU- fert. Not Bo-fort.

    You butchered the pronunciation of Beaufort. It’s BU- fert. Not Bo-fort.

  • Sally
    Sally Gifford, IL
    To those complaining about the pronunciations: that was addressed in episode 1. Did you not pay attention?

    To those complaining about the pronunciations: that was addressed in episode 1. Did you not pay attention?

  • Tonya
    Tonya NC
    The Murdaughs are prices of shit and deserve everything brought to them

    The Murdaughs are prices of shit and deserve everything brought to them

  • Crystal
    Crystal US
    Hey, no disrespect intended. I know that the Murdauchs were a very wealthy and influential family and I am not arguing that there was cover-up involved. However, on a scene with injury, it’s not unbelievable that field sobriety was not conducted. If the occupants had the potential of a head injury, field sobriety would not be admissible because it does not differentiate between head I jury vs intoxication. Also, law enforcement can’t delay medical care/triage to conduct field sobriety for obvious reasons.

    Hey, no disrespect intended. I know that the Murdauchs were a very wealthy and influential family and I am not arguing that there was cover-up involved. However, on a scene with injury, it’s not unbelievable that field sobriety was not conducted. If the occupants had the potential of a head injury, field sobriety would not be admissible because it does not differentiate between head I jury vs intoxication. Also, law enforcement can’t delay medical care/triage to conduct field sobriety for obvious reasons.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Hi Crystal - thanks for posting. I agree however LE could have requested the test breath/blood at the hospital. Field test you're right - not so much. Cheers Nic

    Hi Crystal - thanks for posting. I agree however LE could have requested the test breath/blood at the hospital. Field test you're right - not so much.
    Cheers Nic

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