This American Doctor /// 288 /// 289

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  • Shannon

    Shannon Nashville, TN

    I have a one hour commute each way and your Podcasts have made each trip so much better. I'm sad because I've listened to almost every episode. What will I listen to now?

    I have a one hour commute each way and your Podcasts have made each trip so much better. I'm sad because I've listened to almost every episode. What will I listen to now?

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Get our show "Off the Record" on stitcher premium. Cheers Nic

    Get our show "Off the Record" on stitcher premium.
    Cheers Nic

  • Doug

    Doug Portland

    Any good intense episodes coming up? or just this "put us to sleep" crap?

    Any good intense episodes coming up? or just this "put us to sleep" crap?

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Doug Sorry you didn't find this episode interesting. Captain

    Doug

    Sorry you didn't find this episode interesting.

    Captain

  • Ericka

    Ericka TX

    Where can I find the opening music for this episode? So chill.

    Where can I find the opening music for this episode? So chill.

  • Tara

    Tara Grand Rapids

    Very interesting to hear this story and how Huntington's Disease may have played a role. My mother-in-law is in the later stages of Huntington's and my husband is at risk - but hoping to get tested soon! It is truly a horrible disease.

    Very interesting to hear this story and how Huntington's Disease may have played a role. My mother-in-law is in the later stages of Huntington's and my husband is at risk - but hoping to get tested soon! It is truly a horrible disease.

  • Elise

    Elise Oklahoma

    Do you think, in his rare mental state, he cut his father's fingers off because of the sexual abuse allegations he previously made? I know, why wouldn't you cut off the entire hand- but he had a bunch of weird, intense shit going through his head. He was even confused on why he did it. Maybe it was the Grip of his father's fingers in the past that triggered him. I would imagine it would be a lot more humiliating to have your fingers cut off than a hand too. "It only took 5 minutes" anyways. Just a thought. Cheers

    Do you think, in his rare mental state, he cut his father's fingers off because of the sexual abuse allegations he previously made? I know, why wouldn't you cut off the entire hand- but he had a bunch of weird, intense shit going through his head. He was even confused on why he did it. Maybe it was the Grip of his father's fingers in the past that triggered him. I would imagine it would be a lot more humiliating to have your fingers cut off than a hand too. "It only took 5 minutes" anyways.
    Just a thought.
    Cheers

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    I think it was just convenient. Remove the fingers, remove the dentures, drive across the state line and I think he thought they may not be able to identify the found body. If they don't then very likely they wouldn't connect it back to Vince Gilmer. Cheers Nic - Go Duke!

    I think it was just convenient. Remove the fingers, remove the dentures, drive across the state line and I think he thought they may not be able to identify the found body. If they don't then very likely they wouldn't connect it back to Vince Gilmer.
    Cheers Nic - Go Duke!

  • I wonder if Dr. Vince Gilmer’s dad had Huntington’s disease. Has this been explored? They both became ill at a young age and maybe had similiar symptoms. Your podcasts make me look forward to my long commute!

    I wonder if Dr. Vince Gilmer’s dad had Huntington’s disease. Has this been explored? They both became ill at a young age and maybe had similiar symptoms.

    Your podcasts make me look forward to my long commute!

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Yes I think that is now the general thought regarding Vince Gilmer's father. The papers are not clear what he was in the assisted living facility for - probably many reasons including Huntington's - maybe undiagnosed. cheers Nic

    Yes I think that is now the general thought regarding Vince Gilmer's father. The papers are not clear what he was in the assisted living facility for - probably many reasons including Huntington's - maybe undiagnosed.
    cheers Nic

  • Lindsay

    Lindsay ON

    A little bit of a conspiracy theory, but I think that Vincent Gilmer knew he had Huntington’s and he was going to extremes to hide it. I think he divorced his wife (a doctor) because he didn’t want her to find out. He crashed his car to postpone the recertification test. He self medicated with SSRIs because he was too paranoid to see a doctor. He murdered his dad because he didn’t want a positive diagnosis. I’m not a doctor, but I briefly worked in geriatric mental health. I picked out Huntington’s in the first 15 minutes given his dad’s illness, some of his behaviour, his movements, his handwriting, and age of onset. From what I understand, Vincent grew up watching his dad go through the same thing. When I was in school in the early 2000’s, Huntington’s was a huge part of many different classes. We learned about it in psych, endocrinology, neuroscience, and genetics. It’s interesting, being one of the few fatal disorders caused by a dominant gene. I feel like he must have read about it. He may have put together the pieces given his dad’s health.

    A little bit of a conspiracy theory, but I think that Vincent Gilmer knew he had Huntington’s and he was going to extremes to hide it. I think he divorced his wife (a doctor) because he didn’t want her to find out. He crashed his car to postpone the recertification test. He self medicated with SSRIs because he was too paranoid to see a doctor. He murdered his dad because he didn’t want a positive diagnosis.

    I’m not a doctor, but I briefly worked in geriatric mental health. I picked out Huntington’s in the first 15 minutes given his dad’s illness, some of his behaviour, his movements, his handwriting, and age of onset. From what I understand, Vincent grew up watching his dad go through the same thing. When I was in school in the early 2000’s, Huntington’s was a huge part of many different classes. We learned about it in psych, endocrinology, neuroscience, and genetics. It’s interesting, being one of the few fatal disorders caused by a dominant gene. I feel like he must have read about it. He may have put together the pieces given his dad’s health.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    That’s a very interesting angle, I think it’s brilliant. Cheers Nic

    That’s a very interesting angle, I think it’s brilliant.
    Cheers Nic

  • Alicia

    Alicia Texas

    As a physician myself, I kept thinking during episode one that this sounded like Huntington’s. During episode two, I was happy to hear that Huntington’s was confirmed. At the same time, this is so tragic and sad. My heart goes out to their family. I don’t think this was a “boring” story at all. I found it very compelling and interesting. And sad.

    As a physician myself, I kept thinking during episode one that this sounded like Huntington’s. During episode two, I was happy to hear that Huntington’s was confirmed. At the same time, this is so tragic and sad. My heart goes out to their family. I don’t think this was a “boring” story at all. I found it very compelling and interesting. And sad.

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