Jonathan Luna /// 572 /// 573

67 comments

  • Matt
    Matt Virginia
    Did you come across anything indicating that the plea deal Luna was writing may have been illegal, or at least against federal protocols? The version I read, but can't seem to find, is that a drug case that involved a murder could not be resolved with a plea deal. I probably have the details incorrect, but there was allegedly some concern that, prosecutorial misconduct aside, Luna couldn't even make that deal. Unclear is why the deal was nevertheless accepted the next day by the judge.

    Did you come across anything indicating that the plea deal Luna was writing may have been illegal, or at least against federal protocols? The version I read, but can't seem to find, is that a drug case that involved a murder could not be resolved with a plea deal. I probably have the details incorrect, but there was allegedly some concern that, prosecutorial misconduct aside, Luna couldn't even make that deal. Unclear is why the deal was nevertheless accepted the next day by the judge.

  • Fahmy
    Fahmy Arkansas
    This is clearly a case of execution-style suicide. - Fahmy

    This is clearly a case of execution-style suicide.
    - Fahmy

  • Aurora
    Aurora Maryland
    This shows the range of EZ Pass. You can use it between 13 states that are connected, Pennsylvania and Maryland included but it depends on the routes. Pennsylvania began using it in 2001. https://driveezmd.com/acct-types/e-zpass-regional-network/

    This shows the range of EZ Pass. You can use it between 13 states that are connected, Pennsylvania and Maryland included but it depends on the routes. Pennsylvania began using it in 2001. https://driveezmd.com/acct-types/e-zpass-regional-network/

  • Dominique
    Dominique Virginia
    This is my understanding of easy pass and I have been using one since I could drive which was back in 2002: E-Z pass is a company that states can use to help people traveling to pay tolls faster. They can be used in different states as long as that particular state pays the company E-Z pass to be able to collect payment on that road. I just recently drove from VA to OH and used my easy pass 4x. The pass is connected to your bank account so the money can be automatically drafted. If you go to their website e-zpassiag.com you can see all the states that participate. Hope this helps.

    This is my understanding of easy pass and I have been using one since I could drive which was back in 2002: E-Z pass is a company that states can use to help people traveling to pay tolls faster. They can be used in different states as long as that particular state pays the company E-Z pass to be able to collect payment on that road. I just recently drove from VA to OH and used my easy pass 4x. The pass is connected to your bank account so the money can be automatically drafted. If you go to their website e-zpassiag.com you can see all the states that participate.

    Hope this helps.

  • Tyler C
    Tyler C RI
    Wanted to reply to the question of the E-Z Pass that came up in part 2. My knowledge is based on first hand use of the E-Z pass (2011+) and second hand accounts from my parents (used in 2003). The E-Z pass is a regional device - so even though we purchased in RI, even in 2003, you would be able to use it in NJ. There’s an equivalent in the southern US, the Sunpass (FL/GA). The pass works via RFID. If his E-Z pass wasn’t picked up in NJ or PA, he must have intentionally moved it to a location in the car that wouldn’t be picked up by the Ezpass sensor (below the dashboard for example). Would his work have provided a custom EZpass? Yes and no. Yes, his work could have provided an EZpass and paid for it. No, it would not have been limited to 1 state. Overall, the toll stations where his EZpass wasn’t picked up indicate that either Jonathan or someone intentionally hid the EZpass in order to remain under the radar.

    Wanted to reply to the question of the E-Z Pass that came up in part 2. My knowledge is based on first hand use of the E-Z pass (2011+) and second hand accounts from my parents (used in 2003).

    The E-Z pass is a regional device - so even though we purchased in RI, even in 2003, you would be able to use it in NJ. There’s an equivalent in the southern US, the Sunpass (FL/GA).

    The pass works via RFID. If his E-Z pass wasn’t picked up in NJ or PA, he must have intentionally moved it to a location in the car that wouldn’t be picked up by the Ezpass sensor (below the dashboard for example).

    Would his work have provided a custom EZpass? Yes and no. Yes, his work could have provided an EZpass and paid for it. No, it would not have been limited to 1 state.

    Overall, the toll stations where his EZpass wasn’t picked up indicate that either Jonathan or someone intentionally hid the EZpass in order to remain under the radar.

  • Renee
    Renee Pennsylvania
    Currently the ez pass we have in Pa. can be used in multiple states. Do not know if that was the case in 2003

    Currently the ez pass we have in Pa. can be used in multiple states. Do not know if that was the case in 2003

  • Cathy
    Cathy Virginia
    To clarify the EZ pass info... Any state that uses (specifically) "EZpass" will be interchangeable with other EZ pass states. I drove from VA to NY using the same EZ Pass ( This was prob 10 yrs ago. I actually purchased in, uhh PA? along the way). Checking the PA turnpike, it uses EZ Pass. You cannot stop your EZ pass from automatically paying for the toll unless you take it off your windshield. If its sitting down on the floorboard or in a glove compartment or something, it won't be able to send a signal to the machine. Not 100% sure, but i THINK all lanes (even the ones with cashiers) have the detectors for EZPass, so going in those lanes won't stop it from paying via EZpass. Now, you preload your EZPass with whatever amount of money you want. If you run out during your trip, you can have it set up to automatically refill. Otherwise, if you run out of money, you just can't go thru (well, I mean you can--usually there isn't a bar keeping you from going, you just get your license plate pic in the mail with a fine). So Luna might have run out of money on his EZpass, he might have taken it off the windshield (its just a velcro mount), or he might have just chosen to pay cash in PA. As far as the idea that the employer can say where the EZ pass can be used, I'm not sure about that. I can't imagine how that would work--kind of an accounting nightmare for EZpass, but who knows. EZpass is definitely NOT infallible. I sent back the transponder I got in PA and just got a VA one after that trip. I used it off and on going up and down I95 in VA. Years later (maybe 4 yrs ago or so) I had auto refill off (thank God), and only a couple bucks left in my account when i get a message from EZPass saying i had insufficient funds and was being fined or some stupidity. They said i went thru a booth in NEW YORK! I told them, uhhh you got the wrong person. I live in VA, I've been in VA, and there are a whole bunch of people could confirm i didn't leave VA at that time. Back and forth with EZPass, and they finally send it to some "higher authority" to review. Well, I never heard anything back, and I still have only a couple bucks in the account, so I guess they figured out, uhhh we were wrong afterall. All this to say, Just cause EZpass tells you something about that travel, it isn't 100% accurate (chances are it is, but even so).

    To clarify the EZ pass info... Any state that uses (specifically) "EZpass" will be interchangeable with other EZ pass states. I drove from VA to NY using the same EZ Pass ( This was prob 10 yrs ago. I actually purchased in, uhh PA? along the way). Checking the PA turnpike, it uses EZ Pass. You cannot stop your EZ pass from automatically paying for the toll unless you take it off your windshield. If its sitting down on the floorboard or in a glove compartment or something, it won't be able to send a signal to the machine. Not 100% sure, but i THINK all lanes (even the ones with cashiers) have the detectors for EZPass, so going in those lanes won't stop it from paying via EZpass.

    Now, you preload your EZPass with whatever amount of money you want. If you run out during your trip, you can have it set up to automatically refill. Otherwise, if you run out of money, you just can't go thru (well, I mean you can--usually there isn't a bar keeping you from going, you just get your license plate pic in the mail with a fine). So Luna might have run out of money on his EZpass, he might have taken it off the windshield (its just a velcro mount), or he might have just chosen to pay cash in PA.

    As far as the idea that the employer can say where the EZ pass can be used, I'm not sure about that. I can't imagine how that would work--kind of an accounting nightmare for EZpass, but who knows.

    EZpass is definitely NOT infallible. I sent back the transponder I got in PA and just got a VA one after that trip. I used it off and on going up and down I95 in VA. Years later (maybe 4 yrs ago or so) I had auto refill off (thank God), and only a couple bucks left in my account when i get a message from EZPass saying i had insufficient funds and was being fined or some stupidity. They said i went thru a booth in NEW YORK! I told them, uhhh you got the wrong person. I live in VA, I've been in VA, and there are a whole bunch of people could confirm i didn't leave VA at that time. Back and forth with EZPass, and they finally send it to some "higher authority" to review. Well, I never heard anything back, and I still have only a couple bucks in the account, so I guess they figured out, uhhh we were wrong afterall. All this to say, Just cause EZpass tells you something about that travel, it isn't 100% accurate (chances are it is, but even so).

  • amy
    amy kcmo
    FAHMY!!! lol anyway its ridiculous to say this is suicide. who is driving the car then? why would he buy gas for him and someone else? who is the someone else? why wouldnt he just keep driving thru the toll plaza? he knows he has a monthly pass, its stuck to the windshield usually and has a sensor. why is his blood in the car? did he stab himself? come on. if the police are the ones who keep saying its a suicide that smells of a cover up to me!

    FAHMY!!! lol

    anyway its ridiculous to say this is suicide. who is driving the car then? why would he buy gas for him and someone else? who is the someone else? why wouldnt he just keep driving thru the toll plaza? he knows he has a monthly pass, its stuck to the windshield usually and has a sensor. why is his blood in the car? did he stab himself? come on. if the police are the ones who keep saying its a suicide that smells of a cover up to me!

  • Matt
    Matt Virginia
    The Pennsylvania Turnpike began using the EZ Pass in late 2000. To my knowledge, the EZ-Pass has always been interchangeable where EZ-Pass is accepted (i.e., you cannot limit it to certain states). However, you can simply remove the EZ Pass transponder and shield it from being activated when going through a toll gate. The fact that Luna took a paper toll ticket upon entering the PA Turnpike indicates that either he or someone else wanted to conceal his movements. Why this wasn't done sooner is unclear.

    The Pennsylvania Turnpike began using the EZ Pass in late 2000. To my knowledge, the EZ-Pass has always been interchangeable where EZ-Pass is accepted (i.e., you cannot limit it to certain states). However, you can simply remove the EZ Pass transponder and shield it from being activated when going through a toll gate. The fact that Luna took a paper toll ticket upon entering the PA Turnpike indicates that either he or someone else wanted to conceal his movements. Why this wasn't done sooner is unclear.

  • Nik
    Nik VIRGINIA
    I have an EZ Pass, which is issued by my company for work purposes, it works everywhere there is an EZ Pass system, not just a specific state. My employer receives my travel information, so if I was traveling outside of work area, it would be flagged.

    I have an EZ Pass, which is issued by my company for work purposes, it works everywhere there is an EZ Pass system, not just a specific state. My employer receives my travel information, so if I was traveling outside of work area, it would be flagged.

  • Lori
    Lori
    Gambling addiction. Would explain the excessive amount of credit cards (cash advances) and perhaps theft of bank cash. Also there are casinos in the areas he was traveling. Likely the reason for his earlier visits to PA. Not sure what casinos were there in 2003, just an idea to throw at the wall. Cheers guys!

    Gambling addiction. Would explain the excessive amount of credit cards (cash advances) and perhaps theft of bank cash. Also there are casinos in the areas he was traveling. Likely the reason for his earlier visits to PA. Not sure what casinos were there in 2003, just an idea to throw at the wall. Cheers guys!

  • Carrie
    Carrie NJ
    Ezpass now can be used almost anywhere at this point but At that time, if you were in the NJ/PA/NY/DE, they all have agreements to work together. I’ve never needed an additional pass when I move around the tristate area.

    Ezpass now can be used almost anywhere at this point but At that time, if you were in the NJ/PA/NY/DE, they all have agreements to work together. I’ve never needed an additional pass when I move around the tristate area.

  • Marie
    Marie Maryland
    Regarding the EZ Pass, I currently live in Baltimore and drive to Connecticut multiple times a month. I use an EZ pass and have no issues crossing through other states. I’m not sure about the PA turnpike, but the NJ turnpike has toll booths with people in it so it’s possible Luna (or whoever was driving) opted to get a ticket and pay cash rather than use the EZ pass.

    Regarding the EZ Pass, I currently live in Baltimore and drive to Connecticut multiple times a month. I use an EZ pass and have no issues crossing through other states. I’m not sure about the PA turnpike, but the NJ turnpike has toll booths with people in it so it’s possible Luna (or whoever was driving) opted to get a ticket and pay cash rather than use the EZ pass.

  • Fridaynight
    Fridaynight nyc
    You can 100% find out where and when the EZ pass was used. The EZ pass tag is about the size of a cassette tape. The EZ pass comes with two pieces of heavy duty 3M dual lock acrylic “Velcro”. One side of the Velcro is attached to your windshield right behind your rear-view mirror and the other side of Velcro is attached to the EZ pass itself. It takes a bit of pull to detach the transponder from the Velcro on the windshield. Tolls where they have EZ pass can have these types of lanes: 1) an ez pass only lane 2) an ez pass ticket AND cash lane or 3) cash only. An Ez pass will activate automatically when the car pauses for a few seconds at the toll booth. For him to have paid the toll means he either removed his ez pass and got in lane #2 or didn’t remove his pass and got in lane #3.

    You can 100% find out where and when the EZ pass was used. The EZ pass tag is about the size of a cassette tape. The EZ pass comes with two pieces of heavy duty 3M dual lock acrylic “Velcro”. One side of the Velcro is attached to your windshield right behind your rear-view mirror and the other side of Velcro is attached to the EZ pass itself. It takes a bit of pull to detach the transponder from the Velcro on the windshield.
    Tolls where they have EZ pass can have these types of lanes: 1) an ez pass only lane 2) an ez pass ticket AND cash lane or 3) cash only. An Ez pass will activate automatically when the car pauses for a few seconds at the toll booth. For him to have paid the toll means he either removed his ez pass and got in lane #2 or didn’t remove his pass and got in lane #3.

  • Andy
    Andy Parts unknown
    This stinks of a cover-up and smear campaign against Luna. Do we have proof he had a profile on a dating site? (Would he have been stupid enough to use his real name?) And who cares that he had porn; even if true, why bring that up? As for the rest of the facts, it seems clear they present an inconvenient truth to the feds. Good for the coroners for sticking to their verdict of murder.

    This stinks of a cover-up and smear campaign against Luna. Do we have proof he had a profile on a dating site? (Would he have been stupid enough to use his real name?) And who cares that he had porn; even if true, why bring that up? As for the rest of the facts, it seems clear they present an inconvenient truth to the feds. Good for the coroners for sticking to their verdict of murder.

  • Rob
    Rob WA
    There are cases where I just say I have no idea what happened and this is one of them. However I wouldn’t say suicide is an impossibility. There are instances where people have committed suicide by multiple stab wounds. Haven’t listened to part two yet but maybe there was life insurance that wouldn’t pay if suicide was involved. The timing seems really weird though. Why go back to the office?

    There are cases where I just say I have no idea what happened and this is one of them.

    However I wouldn’t say suicide is an impossibility. There are instances where people have committed suicide by multiple stab wounds. Haven’t listened to part two yet but maybe there was life insurance that wouldn’t pay if suicide was involved. The timing seems really weird though. Why go back to the office?

  • Kelly Davis
    Kelly Davis Langhorne, PA
    EZ Pass will work on most interstate toll roads throughout the country. I used it frequently in 2013-2014 as an auditor however. Typically employers will have you set up your own account and reimburse you for travel expenses. It’s possible the driver used cash to pay the toll on order to avoid being tracked by EZ Pass. You can do this if your traveling for personal reasons and don’t want your employee to see it on your statements when you submit proof for expense reimbursement.

    EZ Pass will work on most interstate toll roads throughout the country. I used it frequently in 2013-2014 as an auditor however. Typically employers will have you set up your own account and reimburse you for travel expenses. It’s possible the driver used cash to pay the toll on order to avoid being tracked by EZ Pass. You can do this if your traveling for personal reasons and don’t want your employee to see it on your statements when you submit proof for expense reimbursement.

  • John
    John Pennsylvania
    What people from other states may not know is that area of Pennsylvania directly north of Baltimore has a become sort of a far flung bedroom community for people looking to escape Maryland's higher property taxes. There are a lot of people who live in towns like Shrewsbury that commute on I-83 to the Baltimore area. That part of South Central PA is Ravens country. This includes a number of people from Baltimore area law enforcement both active or retired. While Dry Tavern Rd is about 60 miles from this extension of the Baltimore area its a certainty that over the course of Justin Luna's career he investigated suspects or witnesses from this area for crimes in and around Baltimore. While the crazy way he got to the crime scene doesn't add up, his investigations would probably involve people somewhat close to there.

    What people from other states may not know is that area of Pennsylvania directly north of Baltimore has a become sort of a far flung bedroom community for people looking to escape Maryland's higher property taxes. There are a lot of people who live in towns like Shrewsbury that commute on I-83 to the Baltimore area. That part of South Central PA is Ravens country. This includes a number of people from Baltimore area law enforcement both active or retired. While Dry Tavern Rd is about 60 miles from this extension of the Baltimore area its a certainty that over the course of Justin Luna's career he investigated suspects or witnesses from this area for crimes in and around Baltimore. While the crazy way he got to the crime scene doesn't add up, his investigations would probably involve people somewhat close to there.

  • Linda
    Linda Maryland
    I don't do Twitter....so....Happy Birthday Captain! :D

    I don't do Twitter....so....Happy Birthday Captain! biggrin

  • Mallory
    Mallory Illinois
    "You can use your E-ZPass transponder on all toll roads with specially marked E-ZPass lanes. This currently includes roads in Delaware, Florida Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina and Kentucky.Jun 5, 2021"

    "You can use your E-ZPass transponder on all toll roads with specially marked E-ZPass lanes. This currently includes roads in Delaware, Florida Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina and Kentucky.Jun 5, 2021"

  • Mallory
    Mallory Illinois
    Idk how they are certain he was alone?! The blood on the toll ticket, and in the backseat. Oh and how convenient they find a knife a months later. How are ppl and his family not up in arms about this? It is outrageous and doesn't make any sense. Was there something shady going on with him?...yep for sure. But he was murdered.

    Idk how they are certain he was alone?! The blood on the toll ticket, and in the backseat. Oh and how convenient they find a knife a months later. How are ppl and his family not up in arms about this? It is outrageous and doesn't make any sense. Was there something shady going on with him?...yep for sure. But he was murdered.

  • Sam
    Sam MN
    The gas situation feels like a very obvious affair. Married SD love this move. If that was him using his real name on the dating website (which surprisingly isn’t that uncommon) I wouldn’t be surprised if he also told women what he does. LOTS of people out there use these sites to essentially extort the SD/SM at some point. The guys will play along at insane prices (one Mayo doctor bought his SB a Mercedes, thousands in cash) until it eventually blows up anyway. If they don’t play along, robbery is often the go-to. Some will outright rob the guy at gun point at the first meeting if he’s foolish enough to invite her (and unknowingly a few of her friends) over to his home. Half the time there’s very little to steal. So while murdering over this might seem pointless, plenty have murdered for less.

    The gas situation feels like a very obvious affair. Married SD love this move. If that was him using his real name on the dating website (which surprisingly isn’t that uncommon) I wouldn’t be surprised if he also told women what he does. LOTS of people out there use these sites to essentially extort the SD/SM at some point. The guys will play along at insane prices (one Mayo doctor bought his SB a Mercedes, thousands in cash) until it eventually blows up anyway. If they don’t play along, robbery is often the go-to. Some will outright rob the guy at gun point at the first meeting if he’s foolish enough to invite her (and unknowingly a few of her friends) over to his home. Half the time there’s very little to steal. So while murdering over this might seem pointless, plenty have murdered for less.

  • Anthony
    Anthony NY
    I have driven the Pa Tpke from NY to Lancaster county every Thursday-Friday for work since 2001 every. I am familiar with all the rest stops and exits you have mentioned. EZ Pass especially back that then wasn’t infallible. I attend auto auctions out there so I have a different car every week I go so I hold my pass up to the windshield to this day I’ll still get notices I went through with no ez pass. You get a violation notice and it’s not recorded on the account. So part of the trip not showing up wouldn’t be that abnormal especially back then. As far as him having the cash receipts today on the Tpke every lane takes EZ Pass or they the express tolls where they will charge the ez pass or send a bill to the cars registered owner. In 2003 back then you had designated cash lanes and ez pass lanes. If you had an ezpass and went into the cash lane they didn’t care you had to use the cash system. When entering the turnpike this meant taking the ticket and then paying whenever you exited the turnpike at that exiting toll booth. Being the time it happened maybe he wasn’t as alert as he should be and he ended up in a cash lane. Present day the time stamps are pretty accurate but I remember looking at my invoices back then and then having the correct locations but the times were off.

    I have driven the Pa Tpke from NY to Lancaster county every Thursday-Friday for work since 2001 every. I am familiar with all the rest stops and exits you have mentioned. EZ Pass especially back that then wasn’t infallible. I attend auto auctions out there so I have a different car every week I go so I hold my pass up to the windshield to this day I’ll still get notices I went through with no ez pass. You get a violation notice and it’s not recorded on the account. So part of the trip not showing up wouldn’t be that abnormal especially back then.

    As far as him having the cash receipts today on the Tpke every lane takes EZ Pass or they the express tolls where they will charge the ez pass or send a bill to the cars registered owner. In 2003 back then you had designated cash lanes and ez pass lanes. If you had an ezpass and went into the cash lane they didn’t care you had to use the cash system. When entering the turnpike this meant taking the ticket and then paying whenever you exited the turnpike at that exiting toll booth. Being the time it happened maybe he wasn’t as alert as he should be and he ended up in a cash lane. Present day the time stamps are pretty accurate but I remember looking at my invoices back then and then having the correct locations but the times were off.

  • Steven
    Steven Hawaii
    It seems he was killed by a girlfriend. She expected him to leave his wife. He refused. The superficial wounds were the woman yelling at him and taking little jabs while she yelled. She eventually killed him. He left the cell in the office to keep from being disturbed and as a way to say he was there. That many wounds is a crime of passion. A girlfriend did it.

    It seems he was killed by a girlfriend. She expected him to leave his wife. He refused. The superficial wounds were the woman yelling at him and taking little jabs while she yelled. She eventually killed him. He left the cell in the office to keep from being disturbed and as a way to say he was there. That many wounds is a crime of passion. A girlfriend did it.

  • Jordan
    Jordan Philadelphia
    One of many things that boggles my mind about this case is….why the HECK did he go to NJ? If the link below doesn’t work, just google “Jonathan Luna map” to see the completely nonsensical route that his car traveled that night. If his (or someone’s) destination was PA, something/someone had to be in NJ, because there is no geographical (directional?) reason to enter NJ to ultimately get from MD to PA. https://prezi.com/bao6rjiaknvv/jonathan-luna-case-study/

    One of many things that boggles my mind about this case is….why the HECK did he go to NJ? If the link below doesn’t work, just google “Jonathan Luna map” to see the completely nonsensical route that his car traveled that night. If his (or someone’s) destination was PA, something/someone had to be in NJ, because there is no geographical (directional?) reason to enter NJ to ultimately get from MD to PA.
    https://prezi.com/bao6rjiaknvv/jonathan-luna-case-study/

  • ELD
    ELD VA
    What happened to the blood in the car that wasn't identified as Luna's? Whose was it? There's your answer right there. Also, could this have to do with the missing PA prosecutor, Ray Gricar? Any connections? Just a thought!

    What happened to the blood in the car that wasn't identified as Luna's? Whose was it? There's your answer right there. Also, could this have to do with the missing PA prosecutor, Ray Gricar? Any connections? Just a thought!

  • Pam
    Pam Staten Island
    I live in NY and we’ve had EZ Pass since around 1995. We’ve used ours as far away as Maine. If you have one and they accept it, you can use it.

    I live in NY and we’ve had EZ Pass since around 1995. We’ve used ours as far away as Maine. If you have one and they accept it, you can use it.

  • Cee Bee
    Cee Bee
    A 2003 mobile (oz for cell) phone isn't a smart phone, so just for call & txt, but it would slip into a pocket (unlike the old bricks) so why wouldn't he take it? Obv coz he was told, or decided, not to... just saying it does suggest that the night's weirdness started before he left the office. (Whereas, he might keep a separate pair of glasses at home, the office, and the car - u really gotta know a person's normal habits.) If he was abducted, wouldn't there HAVE to be a second car? How else would the perps get away after JL's car is dumped/abandoned? (Unless they planted their horse and buggy there beforehand.) Travel thru multiple states reminded me of that dhead alaskan SK... abduct, kill, dump in 3 different jurisdictions. I like Lori's (above) suggestion of gambling. Maybe he took the $30k and stopped off at the casino in a desperate attempt to double his money so the original amt could be anonymously retuned. (Don't want to sully his name though - he does sound like an amazing man.) If suicide, JL could have got in to the back seat to stab himself and set it up as abduction murder. He may have found killing himself was harder than expected. Would explain why he had to turn to drowning in the end. JL & car end up in a very odd spot. If he's being forced to drive at that point I can see him randomly heading for the creek just to end the ordeal. But would a perp drive in there? Why?? When people stab themselves there can be those tentative small cuts, but why would they be on his hands? Unless he was just randomly trying to cut as many vessels as possible. The accidental suicide theory is ludicrous. Like a black slapstick comedy. Just needs a bit of silly string. That said, I'm still entertaining the possibility of intentional suicide, which is also ludicrous. I bet the Feds can't believe peeps are buying it. Oh my, I have gone on. Is there a ramble limit? Love your work lads ❣

    A 2003 mobile (oz for cell) phone isn't a smart phone, so just for call & txt, but it would slip into a pocket (unlike the old bricks) so why wouldn't he take it? Obv coz he was told, or decided, not to... just saying it does suggest that the night's weirdness started before he left the office. (Whereas, he might keep a separate pair of glasses at home, the office, and the car - u really gotta know a person's normal habits.)

    If he was abducted, wouldn't there HAVE to be a second car? How else would the perps get away after JL's car is dumped/abandoned? (Unless they planted their horse and buggy there beforehand.)

    Travel thru multiple states reminded me of that dhead alaskan SK... abduct, kill, dump in 3 different jurisdictions.

    I like Lori's (above) suggestion of gambling. Maybe he took the $30k and stopped off at the casino in a desperate attempt to double his money so the original amt could be anonymously retuned. (Don't want to sully his name though - he does sound like an amazing man.)

    If suicide, JL could have got in to the back seat to stab himself and set it up as abduction murder. He may have found killing himself was harder than expected. Would explain why he had to turn to drowning in the end.

    JL & car end up in a very odd spot. If he's being forced to drive at that point I can see him randomly heading for the creek just to end the ordeal. But would a perp drive in there? Why??

    When people stab themselves there can be those tentative small cuts, but why would they be on his hands? Unless he was just randomly trying to cut as many vessels as possible.

    The accidental suicide theory is ludicrous. Like a black slapstick comedy. Just needs a bit of silly string.

    That said, I'm still entertaining the possibility of intentional suicide, which is also ludicrous. I bet the Feds can't believe peeps are buying it.

    Oh my, I have gone on. Is there a ramble limit? Love your work lads ❣

  • Lois
    Lois Virginia
    This case was one of the majors that happened when I lived in the DC area, in the same high-impact crime stew pot with 9/11 and the DC Sniper. It was scary but also captivating, I remember well, probably because society expects bad things to happen to low income black people living in the hood, but not to good looking, super upper class black professionals (the magazine photo finishes of success) who live in the posh Maryland suburbs, so it was shocking. Thanks for coveting it. Haha, well everyone has their 2 cents to share about the EZ pass, so here's mine. I agree with the person from Virginia. I used an EZ pass off and on around that time in the DC area and I remember this tedious step where you had to go to an office and load money with a cashier. Loading money to that device back then was not the same one-and-done click business I'm sure that it is these days. There was no online fintech back then so everything with that pass was done by hand. It was tedious and I remember having the pass and still having to drop 50 pennies in the basket in the coin lane if my pass was out of money, haha. 2- if the pass wasn't positioned exactly just right with that ridiculous velcro, it wouldn't read. If there was a struggle in the car, the device may have slipped out of place. 3-and this was annoying, there was plenty of times you would drive up and the system would be down, so sometimes they would open the barrier just to keep from being hassled by every other car, or to keep from exiting the booth for safety reasons. I remember women working in those booths as operators at the time and if there was a problem at night, they'd just let you thru instead of coming out to check. So if there were places where the pass didn't read in the wee hours of the morning, that was probably a malfunction. It has been 2 decades since I used those roads but I attest that the EZ Pass wasn't that easy to use, espec. compared to today's technology. If as many things went wrong in that car that night as a murder in progress, I strongly believe that the EZ pass at that stage of its development would have been more of a hindrance to movement than a help. Great podcast as always.

    This case was one of the majors that happened when I lived in the DC area, in the same high-impact crime stew pot with 9/11 and the DC Sniper. It was scary but also captivating, I remember well, probably because society expects bad things to happen to low income black people living in the hood, but not to good looking, super upper class black professionals (the magazine photo finishes of success) who live in the posh Maryland suburbs, so it was shocking. Thanks for coveting it. Haha, well everyone has their 2 cents to share about the EZ pass, so here's mine. I agree with the person from Virginia. I used an EZ pass off and on around that time in the DC area and I remember this tedious step where you had to go to an office and load money with a cashier. Loading money to that device back then was not the same one-and-done click business I'm sure that it is these days. There was no online fintech back then so everything with that pass was done by hand. It was tedious and I remember having the pass and still having to drop 50 pennies in the basket in the coin lane if my pass was out of money, haha. 2- if the pass wasn't positioned exactly just right with that ridiculous velcro, it wouldn't read. If there was a struggle in the car, the device may have slipped out of place. 3-and this was annoying, there was plenty of times you would drive up and the system would be down, so sometimes they would open the barrier just to keep from being hassled by every other car, or to keep from exiting the booth for safety reasons. I remember women working in those booths as operators at the time and if there was a problem at night, they'd just let you thru instead of coming out to check. So if there were places where the pass didn't read in the wee hours of the morning, that was probably a malfunction. It has been 2 decades since I used those roads but I attest that the EZ Pass wasn't that easy to use, espec. compared to today's technology. If as many things went wrong in that car that night as a murder in progress, I strongly believe that the EZ pass at that stage of its development would have been more of a hindrance to movement than a help. Great podcast as always.

  • Doc
    Doc New Jersey
    I live in NJ and I used EZ Pass while going to grad school on the Garden State Parkway starting in 2002/2003 when they eliminated the tokens. Back then, fewer states were in the EZ Pass network. While Luna could have used his EZ Pass in NJ, he might not have realized that when in the other states, so he just went for the cash lanes without realizing he didn't have to. He might have wanted some kind of ticket or receipt for work purposes -- the NJ Turnpike is the kind of road that gives you a ticket when you get on and charges you when you get off based on where your ticket is punched (showing what exist you entered at), but you didn't get a ticket if you used the EZ Pass. If you tried to get off without a ticket, they would charge you the full amount for the road up to that point, and I'm pretty sure the EZ Pass probably did the same thing if you were scanned leaving without having been scanned entering. Additionally, when they first implemented EZ Pass, they didn't have it set up on all lanes. That is, there were dedicated EZ Pass lanes, token/exact change lanes, and cash lanes with an attendant. For the longest time, they didn't put EZ Pass on the exact change/token lanes. Often times, in my own commuting, I would find that it was too inconvenient or dangerous to try to get over to an EZ Pass lane, so I'd go through one of the others and just pay with coins. NJ toll plazas often open up from three or four lanes to eight at the plaza and then funnel back down, so it's often easier to just stay in the lane you're in, especially if you need to be in a particular lane soon after going through the plaza. Nowadays, all the lanes are all EZ Pass enabled, but that wasn't the case back in 2003.

    I live in NJ and I used EZ Pass while going to grad school on the Garden State Parkway starting in 2002/2003 when they eliminated the tokens.

    Back then, fewer states were in the EZ Pass network. While Luna could have used his EZ Pass in NJ, he might not have realized that when in the other states, so he just went for the cash lanes without realizing he didn't have to. He might have wanted some kind of ticket or receipt for work purposes -- the NJ Turnpike is the kind of road that gives you a ticket when you get on and charges you when you get off based on where your ticket is punched (showing what exist you entered at), but you didn't get a ticket if you used the EZ Pass. If you tried to get off without a ticket, they would charge you the full amount for the road up to that point, and I'm pretty sure the EZ Pass probably did the same thing if you were scanned leaving without having been scanned entering.

    Additionally, when they first implemented EZ Pass, they didn't have it set up on all lanes. That is, there were dedicated EZ Pass lanes, token/exact change lanes, and cash lanes with an attendant. For the longest time, they didn't put EZ Pass on the exact change/token lanes. Often times, in my own commuting, I would find that it was too inconvenient or dangerous to try to get over to an EZ Pass lane, so I'd go through one of the others and just pay with coins. NJ toll plazas often open up from three or four lanes to eight at the plaza and then funnel back down, so it's often easier to just stay in the lane you're in, especially if you need to be in a particular lane soon after going through the plaza.

    Nowadays, all the lanes are all EZ Pass enabled, but that wasn't the case back in 2003.

  • Doc
    Doc New Jersey
    ...as an addendum to my previous comment (my memory jogged by later comments in the episode), all the EZ Pass lanes had cameras to capture the license plate and the driver of cars that would try to blow through without paying (e.g. going through an EZ Pass lane without an EZ Pass transmitter). If you have an EZ Pass that fails to read, they can identify your account by the license plate (your account is tied to your vehicle) and bill you anyway. However, some people thought that as long as they weren't account holders, they could go through the EZ Pass lane and skip the toll. If someone else was driving his car, or if he had someone in the car with him that he didn't want a record of interacting with (which may be for completely innocent, work-related client/informant privacy purposes), they may have wanted to avoid the EZ Pass lanes for that reason. EZ Pass also does keep track of what toll plazas you pass through and the exact time you do. At the end of the month, you get a statement of all the tolls you've paid, where they are, and when you passed through. That was the case even back in 2003. He may have wanted to not use a work-related EZ Pass for non-work-related or out-of-state things, but that's pure speculation on our part, as we don't know whether any of those concerns apply for his EZ Pass (if he even had it from work at all). Regardless, the EZ Pass would have worked, as there was no way to limit where or when the pass would function. Once you had it, you were good to go across all the EZ Pass network, regardless of state.

    ...as an addendum to my previous comment (my memory jogged by later comments in the episode), all the EZ Pass lanes had cameras to capture the license plate and the driver of cars that would try to blow through without paying (e.g. going through an EZ Pass lane without an EZ Pass transmitter). If you have an EZ Pass that fails to read, they can identify your account by the license plate (your account is tied to your vehicle) and bill you anyway. However, some people thought that as long as they weren't account holders, they could go through the EZ Pass lane and skip the toll.

    If someone else was driving his car, or if he had someone in the car with him that he didn't want a record of interacting with (which may be for completely innocent, work-related client/informant privacy purposes), they may have wanted to avoid the EZ Pass lanes for that reason.

    EZ Pass also does keep track of what toll plazas you pass through and the exact time you do. At the end of the month, you get a statement of all the tolls you've paid, where they are, and when you passed through. That was the case even back in 2003. He may have wanted to not use a work-related EZ Pass for non-work-related or out-of-state things, but that's pure speculation on our part, as we don't know whether any of those concerns apply for his EZ Pass (if he even had it from work at all). Regardless, the EZ Pass would have worked, as there was no way to limit where or when the pass would function. Once you had it, you were good to go across all the EZ Pass network, regardless of state.

  • Maggie Keller
    Maggie Keller
    I grew up in the Philadelphia/ NJ region and my grandparents and family are from Lancaster, PA so this case is very interesting to me. I've drive the route from King of Prussia to Lancaster countless times.To comment on the Ezpass situation on those roads in 2003, you would have been able to use an out of state Ezpass to pay those tolls. It would've been expensive to pay for all of the tolls, even back then so it's weird they chose to do that. As for the route, I think this directly points to the theory of the Philadelphia informant. The route taken makes sense if you're going from Baltimore to Philadelphia. If your then goal is to dump a body I don't think it's hard to believe that someone from the greater Philadelphia would head west towards the "country". The thing is the person who was driving clearly didn't know the area if the goal was for rural or secluded. Yes Lancaster County is Amish Country and farm land but it's also very populated. Luna was also found on Dry Tavern Road which is not some back country road. The location of the body/car is about a 5 minute drive from a pretty big intersection in Swartzville. I find the Roy Roger's manager to be completely uncrediable, the Roy Roger's closes and 9pm and always has and doesn't open earlier enough for someone to be there at 3:30am. I further find it really strange that if they were that interested in the gaps of time from when they got off the turnpike to when he was found that they didn't canvas the area better. People would have been starting to head to work in some occupations and like I said this wasn't a desolate area, actually it's a very populated working class area.

    I grew up in the Philadelphia/ NJ region and my grandparents and family are from Lancaster, PA so this case is very interesting to me. I've drive the route from King of Prussia to Lancaster countless times.To comment on the Ezpass situation on those roads in 2003, you would have been able to use an out of state Ezpass to pay those tolls. It would've been expensive to pay for all of the tolls, even back then so it's weird they chose to do that. As for the route, I think this directly points to the theory of the Philadelphia informant. The route taken makes sense if you're going from Baltimore to Philadelphia. If your then goal is to dump a body I don't think it's hard to believe that someone from the greater Philadelphia would head west towards the "country". The thing is the person who was driving clearly didn't know the area if the goal was for rural or secluded. Yes Lancaster County is Amish Country and farm land but it's also very populated. Luna was also found on Dry Tavern Road which is not some back country road. The location of the body/car is about a 5 minute drive from a pretty big intersection in Swartzville. I find the Roy Roger's manager to be completely uncrediable, the Roy Roger's closes and 9pm and always has and doesn't open earlier enough for someone to be there at 3:30am. I further find it really strange that if they were that interested in the gaps of time from when they got off the turnpike to when he was found that they didn't canvas the area better. People would have been starting to head to work in some occupations and like I said this wasn't a desolate area, actually it's a very populated working class area.

  • Ellie
    Ellie Indiana
    I have an EZ pass and have driven through PA a couple times. My EZ pass doesn’t get accepted when I drive through the toll booths all the time. Occasionally I’ll get a bill in the mail with the charges bc it didn’t pick up the pass. Not sure how often this happens though.

    I have an EZ pass and have driven through PA a couple times. My EZ pass doesn’t get accepted when I drive through the toll booths all the time. Occasionally I’ll get a bill in the mail with the charges bc it didn’t pick up the pass. Not sure how often this happens though.

  • Elizabeth
    Elizabeth PA
    I use EZ- Pass for work in PA, DE, and NJ. You can use EZ pass throughout most of the New England Area, Maryland, Florida, Minnesota, Ohio, West Virginia, and Illinois. It doesn't cause extra, at least not now. I frequently travel the PA and NJ turnpikes and usually, there are no problems with the pass, unless it gets damaged or the chip reader is broken.

    I use EZ- Pass for work in PA, DE, and NJ. You can use EZ pass throughout most of the New England Area, Maryland, Florida, Minnesota, Ohio, West Virginia, and Illinois. It doesn't cause extra, at least not now. I frequently travel the PA and NJ turnpikes and usually, there are no problems with the pass, unless it gets damaged or the chip reader is broken.

  • Jennifer
    Jennifer Silver Spring, Maryland
    Listening and of course this case is a local one for me. Ez-pass We just came back from a road trip to NY and as of today and for the past 18 years we have used E-Pass. to drive back and forth on vacations and holidays . It’s such a heavily traveled area and is vital to keep traffic moving. Even with it traffic still backs up. It is especially heavy between D.C up through Baltimore, Delaware, basically all the way to the New Jersey turnpike. It records every time you are in E-Zpass lanes, or exit the parkway/interstate/turnpike. There are also express lanes that take you away from local lanes so you can travel more easily around. I find it hard to understand why he would even have paper tickets, I am wondering if there were areas that didn’t have the technology set up to read the transponder. I’m sure they have information from that transponder. We can use ezpass here at home and all the way up the east coast. It works regardless of state you are in. I am only reporting locally, east coast corridor. Thanks for everything, you guyssssss 💜

    Listening and of course this case is a local one for me.
    Ez-pass
    We just came back from a road trip to NY and as of today and for the past 18 years we have used E-Pass. to drive back and forth on vacations and holidays . It’s such a heavily traveled area and is vital to keep traffic moving. Even with it traffic still backs up. It is especially heavy between D.C up through Baltimore, Delaware, basically all the way to the New Jersey turnpike. It records every time you are in E-Zpass lanes, or exit the parkway/interstate/turnpike. There are also express lanes that take you away from local lanes so you can travel more easily around. I find it hard to understand why he would even have paper tickets, I am wondering if there were areas that didn’t have the technology set up to read the transponder. I’m sure they have information from that transponder.
    We can use ezpass here at home and all the way up the east coast. It works regardless of state you are in. I am only reporting locally, east coast corridor.
    Thanks for everything, you guyssssss 💜

  • Felicia
    Felicia Texas
    This case reminds me of Captain Gordon Hess. Hess was found stabbed 26 times, 7 of the wounds being deep and potentially fatal. The military ruled it a suicide despite it having elements of a homicide.

    This case reminds me of Captain Gordon Hess. Hess was found stabbed 26 times, 7 of the wounds being deep and potentially fatal. The military ruled it a suicide despite it having elements of a homicide.

  • Cilla
    Cilla Parts Unknown
    I came here to learn about EZ Pass and stumbled on this crime podcast. All kidding aside, I was fascinated after these 2 episodes and started searching. Came across a Youtube video by a Dr. Todd Grande who explains his opinion on the case, and why he thinks it was suicide. One interesting thing he mentioned that I didn't hear covered on TCG, was that Jonathan had bruising on his testicles, which to the Dr., implied that he likely went to that remote location for sex but it never happened. That, combined with all the horrible things going wrong in his life is why he committed suicide. I'm leaning towards homicide, but thought that was an interesting POV.

    I came here to learn about EZ Pass and stumbled on this crime podcast. All kidding aside, I was fascinated after these 2 episodes and started searching. Came across a Youtube video by a Dr. Todd Grande who explains his opinion on the case, and why he thinks it was suicide. One interesting thing he mentioned that I didn't hear covered on TCG, was that Jonathan had bruising on his testicles, which to the Dr., implied that he likely went to that remote location for sex but it never happened. That, combined with all the horrible things going wrong in his life is why he committed suicide. I'm leaning towards homicide, but thought that was an interesting POV.

  • Michelle C
    Michelle C Maryland
    Hey guys! EZ Pass has only started working in multiple states maybe 10ish years ago. 15 years ago max. I live in MD but have family in New England so I’ve driven up and and down 95 100s of times. In 2003 there’s a chance that MD worked on the bridge going into DE just because it was probably common for commuters to pass there daily and MD and DE connected their efforts, but I know a MD EZ Pass for sure would not have been working in PA yet.

    Hey guys! EZ Pass has only started working in multiple states maybe 10ish years ago. 15 years ago max. I live in MD but have family in New England so I’ve driven up and and down 95 100s of times. In 2003 there’s a chance that MD worked on the bridge going into DE just because it was probably common for commuters to pass there daily and MD and DE connected their efforts, but I know a MD EZ Pass for sure would not have been working in PA yet.

  • jill
    jill delco,pa
    If I have learned anything in my decades upon the planet, it's that men will drive anywhere anytime for a hook up. They do not care. Work, nope. Friend or family, nope. Money, nope. That all can wait. But a woman...a man will drive that erratic and silly road trip if the end result is a good old fashioned link up. There's easier ways to get from Baltimore to Lancaster Pa. No one in their right mind would hit up Jersey first, unless you're picking someone up. How on earth he even found that remote road in Amish land...you do not just happen upon it and no gang banger drug dealer from Baltimore is running thru the Amish country side at all let alone that hour of the morning. I think the answer is simple and it walks on two long legs with heels. Find the girlfriend that grew up in Lancaster.

    If I have learned anything in my decades upon the planet, it's that men will drive anywhere anytime for a hook up. They do not care. Work, nope. Friend or family, nope. Money, nope. That all can wait. But a woman...a man will drive that erratic and silly road trip if the end result is a good old fashioned link up. There's easier ways to get from Baltimore to Lancaster Pa. No one in their right mind would hit up Jersey first, unless you're picking someone up. How on earth he even found that remote road in Amish land...you do not just happen upon it and no gang banger drug dealer from Baltimore is running thru the Amish country side at all let alone that hour of the morning. I think the answer is simple and it walks on two long legs with heels. Find the girlfriend that grew up in Lancaster.

  • Camille
    Camille WA
    My only experience with the turnpike would have been circa 2010. At that time, when you entered the turnpike (PA, NJ, VA) you had the option to either go through a cash booth or bypass it via a EZ Pass lane. If you went through the cash booth, you collected a ticket. When you left the turnpike, you presented the ticket to an attendant and paid a fee based on how far you traveled (a few cents or several dollars). If you did not go through the EZ pass lane, your EZ pass probably would not be read -- and therefore more discreet. Paying cash would be the under-the-radar option.

    My only experience with the turnpike would have been circa 2010. At that time, when you entered the turnpike (PA, NJ, VA) you had the option to either go through a cash booth or bypass it via a EZ Pass lane. If you went through the cash booth, you collected a ticket. When you left the turnpike, you presented the ticket to an attendant and paid a fee based on how far you traveled (a few cents or several dollars). If you did not go through the EZ pass lane, your EZ pass probably would not be read -- and therefore more discreet. Paying cash would be the under-the-radar option.

  • Morgan
    Morgan Boston
    I got an immediate reaction after hearing about the $36k, not necessarily that JL stole it, but I wonder if he KNEW who did. Maybe that got him killed...or, somewhere in the middle he and someone else split it (hence the mysterious $10k), but coming up to the polygraph whoever was in on it felt JL might snitch...

    I got an immediate reaction after hearing about the $36k, not necessarily that JL stole it, but I wonder if he KNEW who did. Maybe that got him killed...or, somewhere in the middle he and someone else split it (hence the mysterious $10k), but coming up to the polygraph whoever was in on it felt JL might snitch...

  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Missouri
    The case for suicide This case seems to me to be one in which the most obvious possibilities are dismissed in order to allow unlikely speculation about low probability conspiracy theories and mysterious bogeyman. Easily, the most straightforward case that can be made is for suicide. Instead of speculating about bizarre possibilities, let’s look at the facts: 1. There is no evidence at all of any other person being involved in this case. There is no evidence in the car of other blood or DNA. There is no evidence of anyone ever having been in the car that evening other than the victim. There is no evidence of anyone else having used his credit card or having made any purchases. No one sees the victim with anyone else. The FBI has concluded that he was by himself the entire time, but we apparently need to discount this in order to maintain other bizarre, less plausible theories. 2. The fatal wound is consistent with a self-inflicted wound. The weapon has been discovered at the site of the victim's death. The weapon belongs to the victim. The fatal wound is to the carotid artery on the left side of the neck. This is absolutely what one would expect if a right handed individual attempted to cut his own throat. 3. None of the 36 wounds are made in a fashion inconsistent with a self-inflicted wound. One would think that the odds are that at least one of these 36 wounds, if made by someone else, would be made in a fashion that would be inconsistent with self infliction. None of the wounds are made in a fashion or in a place on the body that could not be done by the victim himself. 4. The circumstances argue that suicide is the most straightforward explanation. This individual was apparently under investigation for having possibly stolen a large sum of money. Without a plausible known reason, he delayed a polygraph associated with this investigation, which was scheduled to occur shortly after his death. He inquired about a potential loan perhaps to cover the high credit card expenses he has accrued. The victim had 16 active credit cards, which is an incredibly high number for any individual, especially a responsible federal attorney. I personally know of no one who has this number of active credit cards; it implies to me that he was trying either to hide expenses or was shifting debt from one card to the next to delay default or discovery. 5. The victim was noted to have been behaving oddly just before the events that occurred surrounding his death. He was late for court, and was subsequently fined for being late, which appears to have been quite out of character for him. His affect was noted to be odd. His two trips to the office on the evening of his death also seem very odd. His bizarre route also is unusual, and might suggest confusion or an erratic pattern of thought. 6. If someone decide to murder him, why not simply kill this individual at his office or nearby? Why would one take the time and risk to conduct a lengthy drive involving a circuitous route to Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, a route with a number of stops and requiring one to exert control over the victim for hours? Why would the alleged perpetrator drive the victim’s car off the road in such an unusual fashion, and why leave the motor running? None of this makes sense if one is looking at an organized attempt to kill this individual to cover up a crime or to exact revenge. Why is there no evidence of another car at or near the scene? Why are there no foot prints or other evidence of someone else being there, especially given that the death occurred around a creek which certainly would have soft earth or mud present? 7. If the victim was abducted against his will, where are indications that he was restrained? There are no indications that he was restrained in any fashion. If he was controlled using a gun, why would one not simply use the gun to commit the murder? Why would one decide to use a pen knife for this purpose? How could someone inflict 36 puncture wounds with a pen knife without having the victim restrained in some fashion? Is it plausible that this individual could be controlled all of this time and distance using the pen knife that made the punctures and cut to the carotid artery? It all seems exceedingly unlikely. Although all of the conspiracy thinking and speculation makes for an entertaining podcast, none of the competing explanations make a great deal of sense. It seems pretty clear to me, in my humble opinion, that this gentleman committed suicide after an erratic drive using his own knife feeling the pressure, shame, and guilt of an impending investigation for the theft of a large sum of money combined with his own debt and apparent attempts to cover his financial tracks.

    The case for suicide

    This case seems to me to be one in which the most obvious possibilities are dismissed in order to allow unlikely speculation about low probability conspiracy theories and mysterious bogeyman. Easily, the most straightforward case that can be made is for suicide. Instead of speculating about bizarre possibilities, let’s look at the facts:

    1. There is no evidence at all of any other person being involved in this case. There is no evidence in the car of other blood or DNA. There is no evidence of anyone ever having been in the car that evening other than the victim. There is no evidence of anyone else having used his credit card or having made any purchases. No one sees the victim with anyone else. The FBI has concluded that he was by himself the entire time, but we apparently need to discount this in order to maintain other bizarre, less plausible theories.

    2. The fatal wound is consistent with a self-inflicted wound. The weapon has been discovered at the site of the victim's death. The weapon belongs to the victim. The fatal wound is to the carotid artery on the left side of the neck. This is absolutely what one would expect if a right handed individual attempted to cut his own throat.

    3. None of the 36 wounds are made in a fashion inconsistent with a self-inflicted wound. One would think that the odds are that at least one of these 36 wounds, if made by someone else, would be made in a fashion that would be inconsistent with self infliction. None of the wounds are made in a fashion or in a place on the body that could not be done by the victim himself.

    4. The circumstances argue that suicide is the most straightforward explanation. This individual was apparently under investigation for having possibly stolen a large sum of money. Without a plausible known reason, he delayed a polygraph associated with this investigation, which was scheduled to occur shortly after his death. He inquired about a potential loan perhaps to cover the high credit card expenses he has accrued. The victim had 16 active credit cards, which is an incredibly high number for any individual, especially a responsible federal attorney. I personally know of no one who has this number of active credit cards; it implies to me that he was trying either to hide expenses or was shifting debt from one card to the next to delay default or discovery.

    5. The victim was noted to have been behaving oddly just before the events that occurred surrounding his death. He was late for court, and was subsequently fined for being late, which appears to have been quite out of character for him. His affect was noted to be odd. His two trips to the office on the evening of his death also seem very odd. His bizarre route also is unusual, and might suggest confusion or an erratic pattern of thought.

    6. If someone decide to murder him, why not simply kill this individual at his office or nearby? Why would one take the time and risk to conduct a lengthy drive involving a circuitous route to Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, a route with a number of stops and requiring one to exert control over the victim for hours? Why would the alleged perpetrator drive the victim’s car off the road in such an unusual fashion, and why leave the motor running? None of this makes sense if one is looking at an organized attempt to kill this individual to cover up a crime or to exact revenge. Why is there no evidence of another car at or near the scene? Why are there no foot prints or other evidence of someone else being there, especially given that the death occurred around a creek which certainly would have soft earth or mud present?

    7. If the victim was abducted against his will, where are indications that he was restrained? There are no indications that he was restrained in any fashion. If he was controlled using a gun, why would one not simply use the gun to commit the murder? Why would one decide to use a pen knife for this purpose? How could someone inflict 36 puncture wounds with a pen knife without having the victim restrained in some fashion? Is it plausible that this individual could be controlled all of this time and distance using the pen knife that made the punctures and cut to the carotid artery? It all seems exceedingly unlikely.

    Although all of the conspiracy thinking and speculation makes for an entertaining podcast, none of the competing explanations make a great deal of sense. It seems pretty clear to me, in my humble opinion, that this gentleman committed suicide after an erratic drive using his own knife feeling the pressure, shame, and guilt of an impending investigation for the theft of a large sum of money combined with his own debt and apparent attempts to cover his financial tracks.

  • Ryan
    Ryan Baltimore
    I think what you're missing from the ez-pass part of the story is that if you travel north on 95 you intercept the PA turnpike at the crossing to New Jersey. He likely entered the turnpike at the exit referenced. Then proceeded west towards Lancaster. He didnt necessarily have to be in New Jersey.

    I think what you're missing from the ez-pass part of the story is that if you travel north on 95 you intercept the PA turnpike at the crossing to New Jersey. He likely entered the turnpike at the exit referenced. Then proceeded west towards Lancaster. He didnt necessarily have to be in New Jersey.

  • Keri
    Keri New York
    I currently live in NY and have had an ez pass since I got my license at 17. I traveled from NY to PA and NJ with an ez pass on many occasions, I know I traveled from NY to King of Prussia in 2003 specifically as I have family in KOP. I would always use my ez pass and even when driving in different states such as PA and NJ would be able to use my ez pass without any issue at all toll booths. My sister went to college in Scranton PA and Boston Mass and I would always be able to use my ez pass to visit her and this was 2001-2006. EZ pass is what we use in general in the northeast for our roads that have tolls. So the toll booths in the states mentioned, PA, NJ, MD would have readers and signs up for EZ pass users, even in 2003. I think it's important to mention that the ez pass tag that hangs in the window will continue to work in the car even if it isn't in the window where it "should be" and ez pass gives special bags that the window tag should go into when you plan to have the tag in your car but don't want to use it so that it cannot be read if you go through a toll booth. I am no scientist and don't know how it works but I know that the bag keeps the pass from being read. So I wonder if whomever was driving the car didn't realize that the ez pass tag needed to be in a bag in order to not be read. Especially if there is evidence they got a paper tag in a toll booth which was later paid for. I imagine the driver moved the ez pass out of the window expecting that would be sufficient to keep it from being read however that isn't enough. I have put mine in my glovebox before and it would still register as it was not in the bag provided by ez pass. Just some more information!

    I currently live in NY and have had an ez pass since I got my license at 17. I traveled from NY to PA and NJ with an ez pass on many occasions, I know I traveled from NY to King of Prussia in 2003 specifically as I have family in KOP. I would always use my ez pass and even when driving in different states such as PA and NJ would be able to use my ez pass without any issue at all toll booths. My sister went to college in Scranton PA and Boston Mass and I would always be able to use my ez pass to visit her and this was 2001-2006. EZ pass is what we use in general in the northeast for our roads that have tolls. So the toll booths in the states mentioned, PA, NJ, MD would have readers and signs up for EZ pass users, even in 2003.
    I think it's important to mention that the ez pass tag that hangs in the window will continue to work in the car even if it isn't in the window where it "should be" and ez pass gives special bags that the window tag should go into when you plan to have the tag in your car but don't want to use it so that it cannot be read if you go through a toll booth. I am no scientist and don't know how it works but I know that the bag keeps the pass from being read.
    So I wonder if whomever was driving the car didn't realize that the ez pass tag needed to be in a bag in order to not be read. Especially if there is evidence they got a paper tag in a toll booth which was later paid for. I imagine the driver moved the ez pass out of the window expecting that would be sufficient to keep it from being read however that isn't enough.
    I have put mine in my glovebox before and it would still register as it was not in the bag provided by ez pass.
    Just some more information!

  • Gina
    Gina PA
    I am from the area (originally from NJ, lived in DE and PA), and I don’t fully understand why he took the route he took to get to Lancaster. Newark is about an hour and change from Lancaster, traffic depending, so why would you go all the way out of your way to go up the NJ Tpk and pay tolls? It’s not like GPS wasn’t around back then. And then the extra gaps on his way are even more suspicious bc clearly, he wasn’t trying to get to Lancaster expeditiously or avoid an ez pass path.

    I am from the area (originally from NJ, lived in DE and PA), and I don’t fully understand why he took the route he took to get to Lancaster. Newark is about an hour and change from Lancaster, traffic depending, so why would you go all the way out of your way to go up the NJ Tpk and pay tolls? It’s not like GPS wasn’t around back then. And then the extra gaps on his way are even more suspicious bc clearly, he wasn’t trying to get to Lancaster expeditiously or avoid an ez pass path.

  • Michele
    Michele New Hope, Pennsylvania
    Hey guys, I've used EZ since 2001 and still have it. It's for the turnpike, but you can use it state to state. It is connected to your bank account and it dings via the scanner as you pass through the toll exits. You can use it state to state. I've used it up to the Canadian Border and down to Florida, all along the East Coast. If you run out, or don't have your transponder visible when you pass through the toll, you get a fine in the mail (it takes a photo of your liscense plate).

    Hey guys,
    I've used EZ since 2001 and still have it.
    It's for the turnpike, but you can use it state to state. It is connected to your bank account and it dings via the scanner as you pass through the toll exits. You can use it state to state. I've used it up to the Canadian Border and down to Florida, all along the East Coast. If you run out, or don't have your transponder visible when you pass through the toll, you get a fine in the mail (it takes a photo of your liscense plate).

  • Jordyn
    Jordyn Lebanon
    I had an iPass or IPASS, whatever they’re called, from like 2015 until last year. They did travel across the country as far as I went. My husband and I traveled from California to Minneapolis. And again from Minneapolis to New York. We lived all over and our pass worked wherever one was required. I didn’t personally pay the bill, but if it didn’t work we have yet to be arrested 😂😂😂

    I had an iPass or IPASS, whatever they’re called, from like 2015 until last year. They did travel across the country as far as I went. My husband and I traveled from California to Minneapolis. And again from Minneapolis to New York. We lived all over and our pass worked wherever one was required. I didn’t personally pay the bill, but if it didn’t work we have yet to be arrested 😂😂😂

  • Jordyn
    Jordyn Indiana
    The ruling of suicide on this feels very Fahmy. (fauhmy?) I don’t know, you know what I mean.

    The ruling of suicide on this feels very Fahmy. (fauhmy?) I don’t know, you know what I mean.

  • Mindy
    Mindy OH
    Did the gas station attendant give a description of the person pumping gas? If Jonathon looked like Tiger Woods and was always dressed to the nines, I would think he would stand out.

    Did the gas station attendant give a description of the person pumping gas? If Jonathon looked like Tiger Woods and was always dressed to the nines, I would think he would stand out.

  • Abigail
    Abigail Parts Unknown
    First, I love you guys. You make my work day tolerable. I don't do Twitter - Happy Birthday Captain! It seems like everyone above covered the EZ pass questions. I'll just add that I think it's very likely his EZ pass was provided and paid for by the US Attorney's Office since he would've had to travel frequently as part of his job. The fact that sometimes Luna used his EZ pass at tolls and others he paid cash, he would've had to either purposely move the EZ pass in his car so as not to be picked up by the transmitter, or purposely gone through the Cash Only lane. This could be by accident that he entered the cash lane, or he didn't want his route trackable. Or.... Go with me on this for a second - his family says he couldn't drive without his glasses. My driver's license says I need corrective lenses to drive too, but can I drive without them? I sure can. I have no problem maneuvering my car without my glasses, but I can tell you I would not be able to clearly read any highway signs until they were right in front of my face. This could possibly explain why Luna entered the Cash Only lanes when he had an EZ pass, as well as explaining why he (mistakenly?) entered NJ, if he couldn't see the sign until it was too late and then didn't redirect. It seems like he took such an ass backwards way to get where he was going - almost deliberately confusing. My other thought is that maybe he was aware he was being followed and was driving all over the place in an attempt to lose them or have them stop. I think both the glasses and phone being left behind indicates he left in a hurry, related to whatever the phone call was that he received. I don't think he was abducted directly from the office in the sense that someone grabbed him outside and forced him in the car to start driving, but perhaps someone was waiting in the parking lot or close by to start following him. We know there were tire tracks in the mud from Luna's car by the creek where he was found. Was there another set of tire tracks that we know of, or LE knows of I wonder? There had to be another vehicle, especially if Luna purchased two tanks of gas at the station. There is not much here to convince me of suicide. I personally don't think this is linked to Ray Gricar, but it isn't a far leap to make the Det. Sean Suiter connection. I don't think Luna took that money, but Baltimore saw an opportunity to make him the fall guy for it after he was found dead anyway. I don't know who killed him and for what reason, but I think it's possible Baltimore seized that opportunity to cover up their own inside corruption with the stolen cash. If we're to buy what they're trying to sell us here, where the money is that Luna stole then? Did they ever find the $36k in Luna's possession or accounts? Ugh. This one is so frustrating. I wish I could say I can't believe they tried to get the coroner to change the ruling to suicide, but I can. Something is off in Baltimore. What's that saying - "Who will guard the guards themselves?"

    First, I love you guys. You make my work day tolerable. I don't do Twitter - Happy Birthday Captain!

    It seems like everyone above covered the EZ pass questions. I'll just add that I think it's very likely his EZ pass was provided and paid for by the US Attorney's Office since he would've had to travel frequently as part of his job. The fact that sometimes Luna used his EZ pass at tolls and others he paid cash, he would've had to either purposely move the EZ pass in his car so as not to be picked up by the transmitter, or purposely gone through the Cash Only lane. This could be by accident that he entered the cash lane, or he didn't want his route trackable. Or....

    Go with me on this for a second - his family says he couldn't drive without his glasses. My driver's license says I need corrective lenses to drive too, but can I drive without them? I sure can. I have no problem maneuvering my car without my glasses, but I can tell you I would not be able to clearly read any highway signs until they were right in front of my face. This could possibly explain why Luna entered the Cash Only lanes when he had an EZ pass, as well as explaining why he (mistakenly?) entered NJ, if he couldn't see the sign until it was too late and then didn't redirect. It seems like he took such an ass backwards way to get where he was going - almost deliberately confusing. My other thought is that maybe he was aware he was being followed and was driving all over the place in an attempt to lose them or have them stop.

    I think both the glasses and phone being left behind indicates he left in a hurry, related to whatever the phone call was that he received. I don't think he was abducted directly from the office in the sense that someone grabbed him outside and forced him in the car to start driving, but perhaps someone was waiting in the parking lot or close by to start following him. We know there were tire tracks in the mud from Luna's car by the creek where he was found. Was there another set of tire tracks that we know of, or LE knows of I wonder? There had to be another vehicle, especially if Luna purchased two tanks of gas at the station.

    There is not much here to convince me of suicide. I personally don't think this is linked to Ray Gricar, but it isn't a far leap to make the Det. Sean Suiter connection. I don't think Luna took that money, but Baltimore saw an opportunity to make him the fall guy for it after he was found dead anyway. I don't know who killed him and for what reason, but I think it's possible Baltimore seized that opportunity to cover up their own inside corruption with the stolen cash. If we're to buy what they're trying to sell us here, where the money is that Luna stole then? Did they ever find the $36k in Luna's possession or accounts? Ugh. This one is so frustrating. I wish I could say I can't believe they tried to get the coroner to change the ruling to suicide, but I can. Something is off in Baltimore. What's that saying - "Who will guard the guards themselves?"

  • Jezzy
    Jezzy Wash, DC
    This case is fascinating. Who called him? Who's partial fingerprint and who's blood was found in the car? If he paid for someone's gas, to me that is suspect (and a suspect). It's all so weird. I dont buy that he killed himself. Where the hell was he going? The map of the route he took (google) is way out of the way from Baltimore. Bizarre. What has his family ever said about what they suspect happened? Sometimes the family's gut is spot on since they were closest to him. It's very sad. Way too young.

    This case is fascinating. Who called him? Who's partial fingerprint and who's blood was found in the car? If he paid for someone's gas, to me that is suspect (and a suspect). It's all so weird. I dont buy that he killed himself. Where the hell was he going? The map of the route he took (google) is way out of the way from Baltimore. Bizarre. What has his family ever said about what they suspect happened? Sometimes the family's gut is spot on since they were closest to him. It's very sad. Way too young.

  • Richard
    Richard MA
    Great segment on the troubling Luna case. I have used my EZ Pass since 2002 for travel from MA to NY, CT and PA without any limitations on venue. I pay for the pass, not my organization, but the attraction of EZ Pass has always been convenience or longish car travel. One aspect of the case which has been investigated in part has been his caseload. Makes sense to look at his contacts with other informant, one of whom might have been a double operative.

    Great segment on the troubling Luna case.

    I have used my EZ Pass since 2002 for travel from MA to NY, CT and PA without any limitations on venue. I pay for the pass, not my organization, but the attraction of EZ Pass has always been convenience or longish car travel.

    One aspect of the case which has been investigated in part has been his caseload. Makes sense to look at his contacts with other informant, one of whom might have been a double operative.

  • Carrie_Baltimore
    Carrie_Baltimore Baltimore,MD
    Sounds like an inside job. They needed a fall guy just like they did to Suiter. Baltimore is so corrupt from the mayor stated attorney down..it's so sad

    Sounds like an inside job. They needed a fall guy just like they did to Suiter. Baltimore is so corrupt from the mayor stated attorney down..it's so sad

  • Abrianna
    Abrianna Clifton park NY
    I’ve used an EZ pass for awhile now. I know some random places in other states (besides NY) don’t accept EZ pass but majority of them do. I’m not sure exactly about 2003, I was living across the country then but for the last 10 years at least you can use them all around

    I’ve used an EZ pass for awhile now. I know some random places in other states (besides NY) don’t accept EZ pass but majority of them do. I’m not sure exactly about 2003, I was living across the country then but for the last 10 years at least you can use them all around

  • Rob
    Rob Maryland
    Another EZ Pass holder weighing in, been traveling from MD to PA via Delaware regularly for 20+ years. Not much to say that hasn't been said, but am I missing HOW the toll was paid if not by his Pass? I've had my pass just not get read when I went through the toll, because I have an account linking it to my license plate that gets read instead and my pass it charged. I didn't hear in the episode whether the toll was paid with cash, or not paid at all, or charged later?

    Another EZ Pass holder weighing in, been traveling from MD to PA via Delaware regularly for 20+ years. Not much to say that hasn't been said, but am I missing HOW the toll was paid if not by his Pass? I've had my pass just not get read when I went through the toll, because I have an account linking it to my license plate that gets read instead and my pass it charged. I didn't hear in the episode whether the toll was paid with cash, or not paid at all, or charged later?

  • Sonny
    Sonny NJ
    I have an EZPass and frequently travel down I-95 from NJ to NC. Here's more information on how the EZPass transponder system works: https://www.e-zpassny.com/en/about/howit.shtml#:~:text=How%20does%20E-ZPass%20%C2%AE,an%20electronic%20display%20(3). My parents got EZPass for their car as soon as it came out in NJ (back around the time of the Jonathan Luna case or possibly earlier). Back then, there were 2 types of transponders: one you put in your front window (like the most common ones today), but there was also a big brick one that you would screw onto your license plate. While these were mostly used for buses/trucks, I have seen some cars use them and according to my state's EZPass regulations, there are some cars that require it: https://www.thruway.ny.gov/commercial/ezpass/tag-mounting.html. I wonder what type he had? If it was the typical windshield one, you can remove those easily, but if you have a license plate one, you'd have to unscrew it (not impossible or anything, but much more effort). The only way I am aware of that you can pick or choose which tolls will pick up the pass would be to physically remove the transponder. Employers wouldn't be able to regulate which tolls get paid - once the toll takes a picture of the license plate, it's automatically tied to that account and needs to be paid. I'm sure there's regulations employers have where you would have to pay them back if it was a non-work-related expense if it's employer backed, but I can't speak to that. What's so puzzling to me is why he would come all the way up to exit 6 to get to Lancaster County, PA and come up through NJ at all when he can just drive there directly by taking Route 83 to Route 30? Even if he was going to Philly, he could just take 95 to 295 and save a ton of time. Based on the evidence and route taken, I think he was made to drive there from the office (i.e abducted) and there was some reason for going the circuitous route. I'd love to see this case solved, for Jonathan and his family.

    I have an EZPass and frequently travel down I-95 from NJ to NC. Here's more information on how the EZPass transponder system works: https://www.e-zpassny.com/en/about/howit.shtml#:~:text=How%20does%20E-ZPass%20%C2%AE,an%20electronic%20display%20(3).

    My parents got EZPass for their car as soon as it came out in NJ (back around the time of the Jonathan Luna case or possibly earlier). Back then, there were 2 types of transponders: one you put in your front window (like the most common ones today), but there was also a big brick one that you would screw onto your license plate. While these were mostly used for buses/trucks, I have seen some cars use them and according to my state's EZPass regulations, there are some cars that require it: https://www.thruway.ny.gov/commercial/ezpass/tag-mounting.html. I wonder what type he had? If it was the typical windshield one, you can remove those easily, but if you have a license plate one, you'd have to unscrew it (not impossible or anything, but much more effort).

    The only way I am aware of that you can pick or choose which tolls will pick up the pass would be to physically remove the transponder. Employers wouldn't be able to regulate which tolls get paid - once the toll takes a picture of the license plate, it's automatically tied to that account and needs to be paid. I'm sure there's regulations employers have where you would have to pay them back if it was a non-work-related expense if it's employer backed, but I can't speak to that.

    What's so puzzling to me is why he would come all the way up to exit 6 to get to Lancaster County, PA and come up through NJ at all when he can just drive there directly by taking Route 83 to Route 30? Even if he was going to Philly, he could just take 95 to 295 and save a ton of time. Based on the evidence and route taken, I think he was made to drive there from the office (i.e abducted) and there was some reason for going the circuitous route. I'd love to see this case solved, for Jonathan and his family.

  • Pauly Walnuts
    Pauly Walnuts New Jersey
    about ez pass - keep in mind that most bridges/tunnels only charge you in one direction, not both. so the lack of a toll on those segments of his journey may not be reflective anything unusual

    about ez pass - keep in mind that most bridges/tunnels only charge you in one direction, not both. so the lack of a toll on those segments of his journey may not be reflective anything unusual

  • JR
    JR Pittsburgh, PA
    I’ve had EZ Pass for about 14 years now and some things have changed. Certain states use and accept EZ Pass. One way it wouldn’t register his trip would be to simply place the EZ pass transponder somewhere out of view of the cameras and sensors at the turnpike plazas. I drove through the exact rest stops yesterday (King of Prussia) ironically. He could’ve been killed and the killers used his card to fill up his car and their car with gas at the service place gas station. They could’ve either ditched the EZ Pass transponder along the route or hid it from view so his location wasn’t able to be tracked. If you don’t have an EZ Pass at the turnpike plazas a paper ticket would’ve been issued.

    I’ve had EZ Pass for about 14 years now and some things have changed. Certain states use and accept EZ Pass. One way it wouldn’t register his trip would be to simply place the EZ pass transponder somewhere out of view of the cameras and sensors at the turnpike plazas. I drove through the exact rest stops yesterday (King of Prussia) ironically. He could’ve been killed and the killers used his card to fill up his car and their car with gas at the service place gas station. They could’ve either ditched the EZ Pass transponder along the route or hid it from view so his location wasn’t able to be tracked. If you don’t have an EZ Pass at the turnpike plazas a paper ticket would’ve been issued.

  • Nancy
    Nancy California
    Did Jonathan go to & graduate with Alex Murdaugh???

    Did Jonathan go to & graduate with Alex Murdaugh???

  • Suzanne
    Suzanne PA
    Loved that you covered this case. I live about 15 miles from where Jonathan Luna was found. I agree with ELD from Va that Ray Gricar would also be an interesting case for the garage. And....Reading is pronounced Redding. Go figure. Your podcast is my all-time favorite and the one I listen to most religiously.

    Loved that you covered this case. I live about 15 miles from where Jonathan Luna was found. I agree with ELD from Va that Ray Gricar would also be an interesting case for the garage. And....Reading is pronounced Redding. Go figure. Your podcast is my all-time favorite and the one I listen to most religiously.

  • Kristin
    Kristin NY
    So to add to the EZ pass explanations. And I apologize if this was brought up. If you drive through the EZ pass lane without using the pass it will pick up your license plate number. If they can match it to an account then they will charge it to the EZ pass account. If the license plate number is not connected to an account you will get a violation letter. I have had a pass since the late 90’s. My son was born in 2002, he is deaf. We travelled weekly from Utica,ny to Syracuse,ny to see his doctors. There were many times I would have gone through the EZ pass lane and had forgotten to take out the pass.

    So to add to the EZ pass explanations. And I apologize if this was brought up. If you drive through the EZ pass lane without using the pass it will pick up your license plate number. If they can match it to an account then they will charge it to the EZ pass account. If the license plate number is not connected to an account you will get a violation letter. I have had a pass since the late 90’s. My son was born in 2002, he is deaf. We travelled weekly from Utica,ny to Syracuse,ny to see his doctors. There were many times I would have gone through the EZ pass lane and had forgotten to take out the pass.

  • Dr KW
    Dr KW San Francisco, CA
    His route is strange if you consider his final resting place the intended destination from the start. If you consider the FBI angle to this thing, his travel path aligns him well with areas that have FBI field offices, including one along the Pennsylvania turnpike in Fort washington. So to me, it's possible he was meeting with/ picking up / driving with an FBI agent from the cherry Hill or Trenton offices and possibly an informant(?) and it was such a rush because he knew they expected the plea deal the next morning. His final intended destination possibly could have been the Harrisburg branch office, and the direct route to there seems to be the one he takes. Either that or he takes that route because it is the one he knows and the early 2000s were the printed map/ map quest printed directions days. But for me, the FBI certainly either knows exactly who did it and for unknown reasons isn't revealing that info, or has unreleased very strong evidence to say he did commit suicide and along with the family's silence, wants to let it quietly go for some reason, (possibly embarrassing to them)

    His route is strange if you consider his final resting place the intended destination from the start. If you consider the FBI angle to this thing, his travel path aligns him well with areas that have FBI field offices, including one along the Pennsylvania turnpike in Fort washington. So to me, it's possible he was meeting with/ picking up / driving with an FBI agent from the cherry Hill or Trenton offices and possibly an informant(?) and it was such a rush because he knew they expected the plea deal the next morning. His final intended destination possibly could have been the Harrisburg branch office, and the direct route to there seems to be the one he takes.
    Either that or he takes that route because it is the one he knows and the early 2000s were the printed map/ map quest printed directions days. But for me, the FBI certainly either knows exactly who did it and for unknown reasons isn't revealing that info, or has unreleased very strong evidence to say he did commit suicide and along with the family's silence, wants to let it quietly go for some reason, (possibly embarrassing to them)

  • Justin
    Justin New Hampshire
    I've had the same EZ Pass transponder for probably 8+ years now and have used it in many different states. It's still my old Massachusetts pass but we lived there, NH, PA, and IL since getting it and it's worked in all those states. I know we've also used it at tolls in NY, OH, IN, NJ, and DE so the range is pretty far.

    I've had the same EZ Pass transponder for probably 8+ years now and have used it in many different states. It's still my old Massachusetts pass but we lived there, NH, PA, and IL since getting it and it's worked in all those states. I know we've also used it at tolls in NY, OH, IN, NJ, and DE so the range is pretty far.

  • Nicole
    Nicole NY
    To add to the E-Z pass conversation...they come with a sleeve thing that blocks the transmission, so it's advised to put it in there if you don't want it to work. Otherwise, it can be picked up in the car even if it's not on the windshield (though that's not a guarantee that it will work/won't be blocked by something else). Today, a lot of actual toll booths have been removed. You can just drive under a transponder thing and it will automatically pick up your pass or record your license plate and send a bill. In 2003, you would have had to stop at an actual toll booth. I remember being younger and whatever parent wasn't driving was holding the E-Z pass up to the windshield. For some reason, it always felt like a high stakes experience...but in reality, the arm-thing wouldn't go up until it accepted it. As for a job providing one, I would imagine that they might provide one to be used for work purposes. My dad had one issued to him for work in NYC. It was orange rather than the typical white and could only be used to get onto Randall's island in NYC. I'm not sure how that works and if there are one's that can only work for specific bridges/roads besides that one. But I suppose it's possible.

    To add to the E-Z pass conversation...they come with a sleeve thing that blocks the transmission, so it's advised to put it in there if you don't want it to work. Otherwise, it can be picked up in the car even if it's not on the windshield (though that's not a guarantee that it will work/won't be blocked by something else). Today, a lot of actual toll booths have been removed. You can just drive under a transponder thing and it will automatically pick up your pass or record your license plate and send a bill.

    In 2003, you would have had to stop at an actual toll booth. I remember being younger and whatever parent wasn't driving was holding the E-Z pass up to the windshield. For some reason, it always felt like a high stakes experience...but in reality, the arm-thing wouldn't go up until it accepted it.

    As for a job providing one, I would imagine that they might provide one to be used for work purposes. My dad had one issued to him for work in NYC. It was orange rather than the typical white and could only be used to get onto Randall's island in NYC. I'm not sure how that works and if there are one's that can only work for specific bridges/roads besides that one. But I suppose it's possible.

  • Kweilin Graham
    Kweilin Graham Pittsburgh, pa
    He could of taken the pass off the dash or put if somewhere so that it don’t register. You can use it anywhere any state.

    He could of taken the pass off the dash or put if somewhere so that it don’t register. You can use it anywhere any state.

  • BAM
    BAM Baltimore
    https://newslanc.com/breaking-news-concerning-jonathan-luna-murder-case/ Prominent Baltimore defense attorney Kenneth Ravenell, once a self-described ‘good friend’ and ‘mentor’ of murdered federal prosecutor Jonathan Luna, has been indicted for alleged collusion with a drug kingpin. Ravenell served as defense counsel on two of prosecutor Luna’s most mysterious cases, including Luna’s last case.

    https://newslanc.com/breaking-news-concerning-jonathan-luna-murder-case/

    Prominent Baltimore defense attorney Kenneth Ravenell, once a self-described ‘good friend’ and ‘mentor’ of murdered federal prosecutor Jonathan Luna, has been indicted for alleged collusion with a drug kingpin. Ravenell served as defense counsel on two of prosecutor Luna’s most mysterious cases, including Luna’s last case.

  • John
    John Eminence, KY
    I lived in the area where Jonathan's body was discovered at the time and also had an EZ Pass transponder at the time. The EZ pass transponder could be turned "off" by putting it into a foil bag that was provided with the EZ pass at the time of purchase. The foil bag would have deflected the signals from the readers. This would not allow the transponder to be read at designated EZ pass booths. Also, back in 2003, not all toll booth lanes on the PA turnpike were equipped to read the transponders. Some booths were EZ pass only lanes, some were hybrid ezpass/cash and others were cash only. It is very possible that the driver of Luna's car drove into the wrong lane when entering the turnpike and had to pull a ticket as they went into a non EZ pass lane. In addition, the most direct route to Lancaster county, PA from Baltimore would have been I-83 North to the Route 30 exchange in York County, PA and go east for about 30 minutes. This trip should have taken approximately 90 minutes max without stops.

    I lived in the area where Jonathan's body was discovered at the time and also had an EZ Pass transponder at the time. The EZ pass transponder could be turned "off" by putting it into a foil bag that was provided with the EZ pass at the time of purchase. The foil bag would have deflected the signals from the readers. This would not allow the transponder to be read at designated EZ pass booths. Also, back in 2003, not all toll booth lanes on the PA turnpike were equipped to read the transponders. Some booths were EZ pass only lanes, some were hybrid ezpass/cash and others were cash only. It is very possible that the driver of Luna's car drove into the wrong lane when entering the turnpike and had to pull a ticket as they went into a non EZ pass lane.

    In addition, the most direct route to Lancaster county, PA from Baltimore would have been I-83 North to the Route 30 exchange in York County, PA and go east for about 30 minutes. This trip should have taken approximately 90 minutes max without stops.

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