The Unabomber /// 482 /// 483

The Unabomber /// 482 /// 483 2 Parts www.TrueCrimeGarage.com In the 1990’s the F.B.I. was hunting a serial killer they called the Unabomber. At the time he was the most wanted man in America. He some how managed to avoid detection and capture for over a decade. This week in the Garage Nic and the Captain explore and examine the case and the man who committed these terrible crimes. Beer of the Week - Birthday Bomb by Praire Artisan Ales Garage Grade - 5 out of 5 bottle caps Our show - True Crime Garage “Off the Record” is available only on Stitcher Premium. For a FREE month of listening go to http://stitcherpremium.com/truecrimegarage and use promo code GARAGE

16 comments

  • Kell
    Kell AZ
    A little story, 'cuz I think you'll get why it's important. I was working for State (dad gum...*) Guvmint back when Gilbert Murray was killed in the California Forestry Association bombing. I used to walk by their building sometimes when I walked to work from Midtown Sacramento. We were all trained extensively on how to spot suspicious packages and bags. Three factors: 1) strange or missing return address, 2) heavy for its size, and 3) strange smells, stains or bulges. Those factors are burned into my mind. A couple times since then I've called the police on suspicious stuff. Once was when an estranged "family" member (a past batterer and sexual/psych abuser I cut out of my life in 1990) sent me a weird bulgy package of I don't even know what 'cuz it went straight into the trash. Second time was last week when I saw a weird, beat-up box in a parking lot with "Trump, take it back." written on it. Both times I'm glad I called (think Richard Jewell and the backpack...), but also both times, the cops just walked up and started fiddling with and opening the thing. I'm very, very glad they were both just weirdo packages (the parking lot one was just trash), but, jeesh cops, be more careful!

    A little story, 'cuz I think you'll get why it's important. I was working for State (dad gum...*) Guvmint back when Gilbert Murray was killed in the California Forestry Association bombing. I used to walk by their building sometimes when I walked to work from Midtown Sacramento. We were all trained extensively on how to spot suspicious packages and bags. Three factors: 1) strange or missing return address, 2) heavy for its size, and 3) strange smells, stains or bulges. Those factors are burned into my mind. A couple times since then I've called the police on suspicious stuff. Once was when an estranged "family" member (a past batterer and sexual/psych abuser I cut out of my life in 1990) sent me a weird bulgy package of I don't even know what 'cuz it went straight into the trash. Second time was last week when I saw a weird, beat-up box in a parking lot with "Trump, take it back." written on it. Both times I'm glad I called (think Richard Jewell and the backpack...), but also both times, the cops just walked up and started fiddling with and opening the thing. I'm very, very glad they were both just weirdo packages (the parking lot one was just trash), but, jeesh cops, be more careful!

  • Scruffy
    Scruffy Australia
    FC = Fantastico Capitano!

    FC = Fantastico Capitano!

  • Lisa W
    Lisa W NJ
    You guys are great! I listen to you every week. However, tonight I was left a bit perplexed at your getting hung up on the term “ruddy complexion” ( in reference to the unibomber wanted poster) it’s not “RUDY” complexion - it’s “RUDDY” ( pronounced like “buddy” only with an “r”); and it’s a pretty common general term used to describe several skin characteristics: such as rosacea, flushed face, rough skin etc - no, I am not a dermatologist. I am a lawyer and a mom.

    You guys are great! I listen to you every week. However, tonight I was left a bit perplexed at your getting hung up on the term “ruddy complexion” ( in reference to the unibomber wanted poster) it’s not “RUDY” complexion - it’s “RUDDY” ( pronounced like “buddy” only with an “r”); and it’s a pretty common general term used to describe several skin characteristics: such as rosacea, flushed face, rough skin etc - no, I am not a dermatologist. I am a lawyer and a mom.

  • Tracey
    Tracey UK
    Happy birthday Captain. You share your birthday 20th April with my son AND his girlfriend. I hope you had a lovely day xx

    Happy birthday Captain. You share your birthday 20th April with my son AND his girlfriend. I hope you had a lovely day xx

  • Deb
    Deb IN
    Happy birthday!!

    Happy birthday!!

  • Kathie
    Kathie Helena, MT
    Weird/fun facts: ~ I grew up riding snowmobiles all around the area of Kaczynski’s cabin (really more of a shack) in Lincoln, Montana having no clue there was someone living there at that time, let alone building bombs. ~ Kaczynski used to have meals at the Lincoln Senior Center and had, on several occasions, accepted rides from my aunt back to the area of his shack. ~ I work with an Army officer who recently purchased the one acre plot of land that was the original site of Kaczynski’s shack and also was used for the most recent documentary about the Unibomber. ~ After everything had been seized from the property it’s been noted he had wires strung up around his shack to “behead” anyone who tried to get too close. Diaries were also found that had his writings of how much he hated humankind. ~ The shack is now on display in Washington DC at the FBI Experience museum.

    Weird/fun facts:
    ~ I grew up riding snowmobiles all around the area of Kaczynski’s cabin (really more of a shack) in Lincoln, Montana having no clue there was someone living there at that time, let alone building bombs.
    ~ Kaczynski used to have meals at the Lincoln Senior Center and had, on several occasions, accepted rides from my aunt back to the area of his shack.
    ~ I work with an Army officer who recently purchased the one acre plot of land that was the original site of Kaczynski’s shack and also was used for the most recent documentary about the Unibomber.
    ~ After everything had been seized from the property it’s been noted he had wires strung up around his shack to “behead” anyone who tried to get too close. Diaries were also found that had his writings of how much he hated humankind.
    ~ The shack is now on display in Washington DC at the FBI Experience museum.

  • Kell
    Kell Arizona
    Re. the Unabomber "manifesto," it's too rambly and egotistical for me to see much value there, even overlooking the violence associated with it. Besides, Alvin Toffler (Future Shock) and Christopher Lasch ( The Culture of Narcissism) both beat him by 25 years.

    Re. the Unabomber "manifesto," it's too rambly and egotistical for me to see much value there, even overlooking the violence associated with it. Besides, Alvin Toffler (Future Shock) and Christopher Lasch ( The Culture of Narcissism) both beat him by 25 years.

  • Kailey
    Kailey Chesterville
    I would just like to point out to the captain that a lot of the time or possibly most of the time mental illness doesn’t manifest until the ages of 18-25. So it seems that there’s a decent chance Ted k didn’t show any signs of homicidal ideation sir mental illness until after the psychological experience e because it doesn’t show up at age 16. Just food for thought and my 2 humble cents . Love the podcast!

    I would just like to point out to the captain that a lot of the time or possibly most of the time mental illness doesn’t manifest until the ages of 18-25. So it seems that there’s a decent chance Ted k didn’t show any signs of homicidal ideation sir mental illness until after the psychological experience e because it doesn’t show up at age 16. Just food for thought and my 2 humble cents . Love the podcast!

  • Elizabeth
    Elizabeth Uruguay
    Happy Birthday, Captain! Hope you had a great time :) Cheers to you and Nic and thank you for another thrilling story telling session.

    Happy Birthday, Captain! Hope you had a great time smile
    Cheers to you and Nic and thank you for another thrilling story telling session.

  • RACHEL
    RACHEL O-H-I-O
    Nic coming through with his commentary on the manifesto made me clap :) So tired of people reading headlines only or someone else's cliff notes and fancying themselves experts on any given subject. No one is infallible, but you can be right every time you open your mouth if you only open your mouth when you know you are right. Nic has nailed this. Good on ya :)

    Nic coming through with his commentary on the manifesto made me clap smile So tired of people reading headlines only or someone else's cliff notes and fancying themselves experts on any given subject. No one is infallible, but you can be right every time you open your mouth if you only open your mouth when you know you are right. Nic has nailed this. Good on ya smile

  • Marian
    Marian Washington
    I am a nurse and I love this show. I listen to while I am driving to work which I work 12 hours or more. It keeps me awake. I also listen to while I’m in be so I can fall sleep, then when I wake up I have to rewind everything that I miss it. You guys compliment each other, Nick sounds gentle soul and the captain 🤗🤗🤗 the captain is so blunt like me and hilarious. Love you guys♥️ Keep up the good work😍😍😍

    I am a nurse and I love this show. I listen to while I am driving to work which I work 12 hours or more. It keeps me awake. I also listen to while I’m in be so I can fall sleep, then when I wake up I have to rewind everything that I miss it. You guys compliment each other, Nick sounds gentle soul and the captain 🤗🤗🤗 the captain is so blunt like me and hilarious. Love you guys♥️ Keep up the good work😍😍😍

  • SuziBeth
    SuziBeth
    T.K. is a luddite. If people `online`agreed with his ideas so much, they would not have been online in the first place.

    T.K. is a luddite. If people `online`agreed with his ideas so much, they would not have been online in the first place.

  • Helsey
    Helsey Down under
    SuziBeth your 100% right 👍 really can't see TK being online or social media lol

    SuziBeth your 100% right 👍 really can't see TK being online or social media lol

  • KJ
    KJ
    Hi guys- love the show. I kept waiting for more discussion of the fact that TK was/is a paranoid schizophrenic- I think it’s a big part of the story. Yes he belongs in jail- he knew what he did was wrong. And yes most people with mental illness are victims of violent crime, not perpetrators. He has had severe untreated mental illness, and his case his refusal of treatment is part of his disease. Not feeling sorry for a murderer- just a nurse in Boston putting in my 2 cents. Great episodes- thanks!!

    Hi guys- love the show. I kept waiting for more discussion of the fact that TK was/is a paranoid schizophrenic- I think it’s a big part of the story. Yes he belongs in jail- he knew what he did was wrong. And yes most people with mental illness are victims of violent crime, not perpetrators. He has had severe untreated mental illness, and his case his refusal of treatment is part of his disease. Not feeling sorry for a murderer- just a nurse in Boston putting in my 2 cents. Great episodes- thanks!!

  • SDG
    SDG Parts Unknown
    Really Zodiac related, but I heard it again on the OTR discussion of Kazinsky. It’s said Zodiac is known to be in San Francisco on a given day because of letters being mailed. There has to be some chance someone else mailed them for him doesn’t there? Am I missing something?

    Really Zodiac related, but I heard it again on the OTR discussion of Kazinsky. It’s said Zodiac is known to be in San Francisco on a given day because of letters being mailed. There has to be some chance someone else mailed them for him doesn’t there? Am I missing something?

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    @ SDG - that certainly is a possibility but would he have someone do that - the envelopes themselves have presented visually to the public over the years. They were hoping someone would recognize hand writing, the cipher techniques, addressed envelopes, postage anything. The communications really heightens the adrenaline pump for the killer but super adds to the risk factor and it in a lot of cases is what gets them caught. So would he bring another into the fold? Cheers Nic

    @ SDG - that certainly is a possibility but would he have someone do that - the envelopes themselves have presented visually to the public over the years. They were hoping someone would recognize hand writing, the cipher techniques, addressed envelopes, postage anything. The communications really heightens the adrenaline pump for the killer but super adds to the risk factor and it in a lot of cases is what gets them caught. So would he bring another into the fold?
    Cheers Nic

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