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  • Dianne

    Dianne Nola

    do you guys do any research ? terrible episode AGAIN. Just winging it guys

    do you guys do any research ? terrible episode AGAIN. Just winging it guys

  • Barbara B.

    Barbara B.

    Today I was thinking about what it takes to produce a podcast. I assume you both work full time jobs and have family/social obligations. To get this show out on a weekly basis must be an incredible amount of work. Between researching the case, writing a script or sheet with talking points, recording, editing, and uploading - not to mention the music and design work The Captain does. We live in a society where we want it fast and now! That must be a lot of pressure to produce on a weekly basis. I think we all take for granted creators. I just wanted to show some appreciation and say thank you for what you provide ,FREE CONTENT, for your listeners. You also bring light to mental health issues, awareness to cold cases and always treat the victim with respect. While I don't always agree with the sometimes large levels of speculation, I do want to say (as a fan of true crime for pretty much my entire life) I am grateful for you both. My husband is self employed so I know how much work it can be to create something and try to make it grow. Hats off to you both!

    Today I was thinking about what it takes to produce a podcast.
    I assume you both work full time jobs and have family/social obligations. To get this show out on a weekly basis must be an incredible amount of work. Between researching the case, writing a script or sheet with talking points, recording, editing, and uploading - not to mention the music and design work The Captain does. We live in a society where we want it fast and now! That must be a lot of pressure to produce on a weekly basis.
    I think we all take for granted creators. I just wanted to show some appreciation and say thank you for what you provide ,FREE CONTENT, for your listeners. You also bring light to mental health issues, awareness to cold cases and always treat the victim with respect.
    While I don't always agree with the sometimes large levels of speculation, I do want to say (as a fan of true crime for pretty much my entire life) I am grateful for you both. My husband is self employed so I know how much work it can be to create something and try to make it grow. Hats off to you both!

  • Aria

    Aria MA

    Dear Dianne, I'm sorry their free and informative podcast is not up to your irrelevant standards. Not only is there a lot of detail included in both episodes, but they are also only able to cover information that is available to the public. Judging by how quickly you made this comment after the release of the episodes, I am going to assume that you follow the series pretty closely. This makes it even more bizarre you'd go out of your way to leave them negative feedback, on media that you listen to almost as soon as it is released. Some people literally just want to be unhappy and find problems with things. If you do not enjoy it, then do not listen to their free podcasts. Nobody is forcing you.

    Dear Dianne, I'm sorry their free and informative podcast is not up to your irrelevant standards. Not only is there a lot of detail included in both episodes, but they are also only able to cover information that is available to the public. Judging by how quickly you made this comment after the release of the episodes, I am going to assume that you follow the series pretty closely. This makes it even more bizarre you'd go out of your way to leave them negative feedback, on media that you listen to almost as soon as it is released. Some people literally just want to be unhappy and find problems with things. If you do not enjoy it, then do not listen to their free podcasts. Nobody is forcing you.

  • Michelle

    Michelle NY

    I wanted to answer the question you guys had about DNA. There are 3 ways, in general, for investigators to collect DNA from a suspect/person of interest: consent, search warrant, or abandoned property. If a detective wants to get the Captain’s DNA, but he doesn’t have consent and he doesn’t have quite enough probable cause for a search warrant, he can follow the Captain and wait for him to discard a water bottle, cigarette butt, etc. in a trash can or (heaven forbid!) by throwing it on the ground. If a DNA profile can be pulled from that abandoned property, it can be compared to the profile from the crime. As a safeguard, once the perpetrator is arrested, detectives can get a search warrant to swab the perp’s cheek and compare that to the crime scene profile, so there’s no question about who committed the crime later at trial.

    I wanted to answer the question you guys had about DNA. There are 3 ways, in general, for investigators to collect DNA from a suspect/person of interest: consent, search warrant, or abandoned property. If a detective wants to get the Captain’s DNA, but he doesn’t have consent and he doesn’t have quite enough probable cause for a search warrant, he can follow the Captain and wait for him to discard a water bottle, cigarette butt, etc. in a trash can or (heaven forbid!) by throwing it on the ground. If a DNA profile can be pulled from that abandoned property, it can be compared to the profile from the crime. As a safeguard, once the perpetrator is arrested, detectives can get a search warrant to swab the perp’s cheek and compare that to the crime scene profile, so there’s no question about who committed the crime later at trial.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Thanks Michelle for the insight. Thank you Barbara and Aria for the kind words. Cheers to all- even Dianne! Nic

    Thanks Michelle for the insight.
    Thank you Barbara and Aria for the kind words.
    Cheers to all- even Dianne!
    Nic

  • Shannon

    Shannon Dayton OH

    “Gets your boner juices goin”... ya.. I’m gonna need that on a t-shirt .

    “Gets your boner juices goin”... ya.. I’m gonna need that on a t-shirt .

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous ID

    Did I miss it?!? Where was the roommate that morning/day?

    Did I miss it?!? Where was the roommate that morning/day?

  • Abby H

    Abby H

    Thank you for covering this case! In the near future when it’s solved 🤞 I will already know the case. Cheers to many, many more cold cases being solved in 2019 and more John & Jane Does finally given their identities back!

    Thank you for covering this case! In the near future when it’s solved 🤞 I will already know the case. Cheers to many, many more cold cases being solved in 2019 and more John & Jane Does finally given their identities back!

  • Aria

    Aria MA

    However I must add that a tinge of racism creeps into the pod every now and then, its subtle but it's there none the less. That's the one complaint I would have

    However I must add that a tinge of racism creeps into the pod every now and then, its subtle but it's there none the less. That's the one complaint I would have

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    The roommate was out of town - in Florida she left for Florida the night before the murder. - Nic

    The roommate was out of town - in Florida she left for Florida the night before the murder.
    - Nic

  • Aria

    Aria MA

    Haha, I think Dianne or some other soul soul tried to make a comment pretending to be me. I in no way believe there has ever been any hint of racism from anyone on this show (comment time stamped April 11th 4:23 AM was not written by me, but obviously is intended to look like it was by using my name, location and trying to tack it onto my previous comment with the "however" phrasing). But i do very much enjoy that someone found my first comment to be so spot on (the one time stamped April 10 4:04 PM, which was actually written by myself) that they thought up such a cheap and obvious way to try and strike back. For total clarity, I have nothing but praise for this production. Everything about it fits me perfectly. I love the level of detail, the consideration to victims of their families, the gentle way some topics are approached, the humor to lighten heavy situations, all of it. Unlike some other listeners, I actually also enjoy the speculation sometimes discussed. It adds insight i may not have thought of myself. I am grateful for the time and effort put forward by all involved, and could honestly not think of one negative thing or criticism. My only concern if that the two men seem to have not had a break in a very long time, with multiple episodes each week, and i'd be worried about them being overworked. So to whoever tried to make it appear like i was accusing people of being racist, good effort; but not good enough.

    Haha, I think Dianne or some other soul soul tried to make a comment pretending to be me. I in no way believe there has ever been any hint of racism from anyone on this show (comment time stamped April 11th 4:23 AM was not written by me, but obviously is intended to look like it was by using my name, location and trying to tack it onto my previous comment with the "however" phrasing). But i do very much enjoy that someone found my first comment to be so spot on (the one time stamped April 10 4:04 PM, which was actually written by myself) that they thought up such a cheap and obvious way to try and strike back.
    For total clarity, I have nothing but praise for this production. Everything about it fits me perfectly. I love the level of detail, the consideration to victims of their families, the gentle way some topics are approached, the humor to lighten heavy situations, all of it. Unlike some other listeners, I actually also enjoy the speculation sometimes discussed. It adds insight i may not have thought of myself. I am grateful for the time and effort put forward by all involved, and could honestly not think of one negative thing or criticism. My only concern if that the two men seem to have not had a break in a very long time, with multiple episodes each week, and i'd be worried about them being overworked.
    So to whoever tried to make it appear like i was accusing people of being racist, good effort; but not good enough.

  • Ellen

    Ellen

    In part 1 am I correct in hearing that her apartment door was locked, and they had to get permission from her mother to unlock it? Then her father and apartment manager (?) found her inside. If this is the case, are there any theories on how the door became locked after her murder? As in part 2 is it theorised that she may have left the door unlocked and that’s how the perpetrator gained entry. Apologies if I’ve been confused here. Thanks

    In part 1 am I correct in hearing that her apartment door was locked, and they had to get permission from her mother to unlock it? Then her father and apartment manager (?) found her inside. If this is the case, are there any theories on how the door became locked after her murder? As in part 2 is it theorised that she may have left the door unlocked and that’s how the perpetrator gained entry. Apologies if I’ve been confused here. Thanks

  • Kirsten

    Kirsten

    Hey so I don’t know if I just spaced out, but how did her murderer lock the door behind himself without a key? I’ve never seen an apartment door that could be locked from the outside without a key, or from the inside without the door being shut. Then again, I know y’all go some weird stuff up there in Ohio like basements and such. :) Loving the unsolved stuff lately, guys. Keep doin what you’re doin.

    Hey so I don’t know if I just spaced out, but how did her murderer lock the door behind himself without a key? I’ve never seen an apartment door that could be locked from the outside without a key, or from the inside without the door being shut. Then again, I know y’all go some weird stuff up there in Ohio like basements and such. smile
    Loving the unsolved stuff lately, guys. Keep doin what you’re doin.

  • Tara

    Tara Australia

    I would be happy to help out with research in my spare time. I know how much work it takes being a crime junkie myself.

    I would be happy to help out with research in my spare time.
    I know how much work it takes being a crime junkie myself.

  • Jacinta

    Jacinta Australia

    I have a feeling that maybe the perpetrator knocked on her door and used the “my car has broken down, may I please use your telephone” guise. Then when they got to the phone he attacked. It would explain why there was no forced entry/and the blood on the telephone. It reminds me of the Christy Mirack case, how she was murdered in the morning before work, no forced entry. Familial DNA cracked that cold case 20+ years later and even after that LE still couldn’t ascertain what DJ Freez’s connection was with her, but surmised that he might have seen her sunbaking out the front of her house on his route home. I wholeheartedly agree with Nic that familial DNA will solve this case, only a matter of time.

    I have a feeling that maybe the perpetrator knocked on her door and used the “my car has broken down, may I please use your telephone” guise. Then when they got to the phone he attacked. It would explain why there was no forced entry/and the blood on the telephone. It reminds me of the Christy Mirack case, how she was murdered in the morning before work, no forced entry. Familial DNA cracked that cold case 20+ years later and even after that LE still couldn’t ascertain what DJ Freez’s connection was with her, but surmised that he might have seen her sunbaking out the front of her house on his route home. I wholeheartedly agree with Nic that familial DNA will solve this case, only a matter of time.

  • Shannon

    Shannon OH

    I wonder if it was a door that just automatically locks when closed . If so that rules out the attacker just walking in on his own.

    I wonder if it was a door that just automatically locks when closed . If so that rules out the attacker just walking in on his own.

  • Kevin

    Kevin Colorado

    Off Topic: Don't know if you saw this or not, but the "Aurora Hammer Slaying" case (ep 175-176) looks likes it coming to a resolution. https://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/suspect-in-hammer-killings-seeks-more-time-to-fight-extradition-to-colorado/73-61d5738e-0e64-4d31-815a-91f1db48166d Nice to see these cold cases get solved.

    Off Topic:

    Don't know if you saw this or not, but the "Aurora Hammer Slaying" case (ep 175-176) looks likes it coming to a resolution. https://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/suspect-in-hammer-killings-seeks-more-time-to-fight-extradition-to-colorado/73-61d5738e-0e64-4d31-815a-91f1db48166d

    Nice to see these cold cases get solved.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    I think the killer locked the door - I think everything was set up for a delay. The killer could have just carried out the attack downstairs but instead he either forced her upstairs or carried her up. This was by design. He likely locked the door after striking with the heavy sharp object and then after the attack let himself out and locking the door behind him. All of this without a key. I also believe he brought the striking object with him. If he is alive - I believe he at some point will listen to the podcast and visit this blog. Cheers Nic

    I think the killer locked the door - I think everything was set up for a delay. The killer could have just carried out the attack downstairs but instead he either forced her upstairs or carried her up. This was by design. He likely locked the door after striking with the heavy sharp object and then after the attack let himself out and locking the door behind him. All of this without a key. I also believe he brought the striking object with him. If he is alive - I believe he at some point will listen to the podcast and visit this blog.
    Cheers Nic

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    A lot of questions about the front door to Amy's apartment. Thank you for spotting and questioning this. Here is some info I got from a former resident of the complex, living there in the early 90's. These are "push button" door locks. There is a deadbolt that requires a key from the outside but the small lock on the door handle itself - is a push button. You can push the button and pull the door closed behind you and the door remains locked. Cheers Nic

    A lot of questions about the front door to Amy's apartment. Thank you for spotting and questioning this. Here is some info I got from a former resident of the complex, living there in the early 90's.
    These are "push button" door locks. There is a deadbolt that requires a key from the outside but the small lock on the door handle itself - is a push button. You can push the button and pull the door closed behind you and the door remains locked.
    Cheers Nic

  • Annie

    Annie Tennessee

    They should have the former police chief’s DNA on file. Can they use this for familial DNA testing?

    They should have the former police chief’s DNA on file. Can they use this for familial DNA testing?

  • mG

    mG tX

    For the record, if something is discarded, like gum or trash, and it is not on the private property of the person in question, there is no need for a warrant to collect it. One loses the expectation of privacy. So, if the PD wanted to collect DNA, they most assuredly could. Tragic case and I wish they would have caught the scumbag. HOWEVER, it is pointless to speculate unless more information is known, in particular, whether she was raped. That fact is very important to know before one goes any further in speculating.

    For the record, if something is discarded, like gum or trash, and it is not on the private property of the person in question, there is no need for a warrant to collect it. One loses the expectation of privacy. So, if the PD wanted to collect DNA, they most assuredly could. Tragic case and I wish they would have caught the scumbag. HOWEVER, it is pointless to speculate unless more information is known, in particular, whether she was raped. That fact is very important to know before one goes any further in speculating.

  • mG

    mG tX

    If I were to speculate, maybe this. I think there is a possibility that an acquaintance of the roommate had a thing for Amy. I think this person saw an opportunity to move on Amy with the roommate gone. I think he probably entered the apartment under some ruse. That would explain why Amy let him in, which I believe she did. If in fact she was wearing a robe when she answered the door (just getting out of shower), his sexual impulse was peaked even more. I think he moved on her and was rejected by her, and I think he went red! I think he had narcissistic qualities and was outraged by her denying him. I think this turned into a rejection/rage attack. It is possible that he had remorse later for what he did, probably for fear that he would be caught and punished. The roommate would have ideas on who this person was, maybe someone close to her. Maybe she was told by the perpetrator himself after the fact, with him expressing sadness and regret, and her buying it. This roommate's loyalty was most likely stronger with this person than Amy, hence, she covered for him. Believe me, such people exist. I think this is probably how it went down.

    If I were to speculate, maybe this. I think there is a possibility that an acquaintance of the roommate had a thing for Amy. I think this person saw an opportunity to move on Amy with the roommate gone. I think he probably entered the apartment under some ruse. That would explain why Amy let him in, which I believe she did. If in fact she was wearing a robe when she answered the door (just getting out of shower), his sexual impulse was peaked even more. I think he moved on her and was rejected by her, and I think he went red! I think he had narcissistic qualities and was outraged by her denying him. I think this turned into a rejection/rage attack. It is possible that he had remorse later for what he did, probably for fear that he would be caught and punished. The roommate would have ideas on who this person was, maybe someone close to her. Maybe she was told by the perpetrator himself after the fact, with him expressing sadness and regret, and her buying it. This roommate's loyalty was most likely stronger with this person than Amy, hence, she covered for him. Believe me, such people exist. I think this is probably how it went down.

  • Suzanne

    Suzanne Seattle

    I, for one, am glad to have found this podcast. Each episode is about as long as my commute to/from work, sadly (fracking traffic...). I've listened to may true crime podcasts and this is one of the good ones. If you don't like it, move along.

    I, for one, am glad to have found this podcast. Each episode is about as long as my commute to/from work, sadly (fracking traffic...). I've listened to may true crime podcasts and this is one of the good ones. If you don't like it, move along.

  • Ken

    Ken Ny

    guys, there is plenty of case law on the subject. When you throw something away you lose all rights of ownership and privacy pertaining to that I. If I pick up one of your cigarette butts I am free to run as many DNA test on it as I like. The only question then would be the chain of custody, can you prove it is his cigarette butt or his cup.

    guys, there is plenty of case law on the subject. When you throw something away you lose all rights of ownership and privacy pertaining to that I. If I pick up one of your cigarette butts I am free to run as many DNA test on it as I like. The only question then would be the chain of custody, can you prove it is his cigarette butt or his cup.

  • Ken

    Ken Ny

    Has anyone looked into the background of this roommate. Is it conceivable that she is homeless because she is running from a violent baby daddy. is it possible that said baby daddy is so angry she helped her that he was willing to kill her. Has anyone checked the DNA of the roommates children to try to determine if the baby daddy had something to do with the death

    Has anyone looked into the background of this roommate. Is it conceivable that she is homeless because she is running from a violent baby daddy. is it possible that said baby daddy is so angry she helped her that he was willing to kill her. Has anyone checked the DNA of the roommates children to try to determine if the baby daddy had something to do with the death

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