Aurora Hammer Slayer /// 175 & 176

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  • Steven

    Steven Michigan

    Good show

    Good show

  • John

    John Long Island, NY

    Love the show guys, part 1 was great and starting part 2 now. Beer recommendation, six point brewery, Resin and Bengali. My favorite go to beers if you like an IPA

    Love the show guys, part 1 was great and starting part 2 now. Beer recommendation, six point brewery, Resin and Bengali. My favorite go to beers if you like an IPA

  • Bessford

    Bessford Durham uk

    Whilst listening to the show i noticed that the cases involved garages. I wonder if anyone knows if the homes involved possibly had the same developer or had garages/garage doors made by the same company. Perhaps the killer could be an employee of said company and has some form of access to multiple garages/doors. Also the "letters" that were left imprinted on the crime scene possibly "richard" or "petawawa" could have been a work shirt, you know the ones that have a sewn on name or company name tag. If that is the case maybe somebody could get a list of employees from that era in time and could possibly be on to something? Maybe I'm stretching a little here?

    Whilst listening to the show i noticed that the cases involved garages. I wonder if anyone knows if the homes involved possibly had the same developer or had garages/garage doors made by the same company. Perhaps the killer could be an employee of said company and has some form of access to multiple garages/doors. Also the "letters" that were left imprinted on the crime scene possibly "richard" or "petawawa" could have been a work shirt, you know the ones that have a sewn on name or company name tag. If that is the case maybe somebody could get a list of employees from that era in time and could possibly be on to something? Maybe I'm stretching a little here?

  • Joe

    Joe Colorado

    This episode blew my mind! I used to own one of the townhomes you discussed in Lakewood. They all had garages with access to the home

    This episode blew my mind! I used to own one of the townhomes you discussed in Lakewood. They all had garages with access to the home

  • Kelly

    Kelly Los Angeles, CA

    It sounded like at least two of the victims had recently moved into their residences. Possibly the murderer worked for a moving company and had some contact with the victims and locations prior to the attacks. This is a seriously creepy and disturbing case!!

    It sounded like at least two of the victims had recently moved into their residences. Possibly the murderer worked for a moving company and had some contact with the victims and locations prior to the attacks. This is a seriously creepy and disturbing case!!

  • Nancy

    Nancy Mt. Shasta

    Where is this 'blog' you speak of? Love the show!

    Where is this 'blog' you speak of? Love the show!

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    You are here Nancy. Everyone posts comments about each case. Some are questions or insights it's a good way for the discussion to continue on each case even though the shows are done. Welcome- Nic

    You are here Nancy. Everyone posts comments about each case. Some are questions or insights it's a good way for the discussion to continue on each case even though the shows are done.
    Welcome- Nic

  • Kyle

    Kyle Kelowna

    Not sure why this one resonates with me so much, i like the idea that he could have been someone who was a home developer or possibly worked at a garage door company or repair shop, where he would have access many garage door openers are knew how to program one, I'm not really sure how garage door openers worked back then

    Not sure why this one resonates with me so much, i like the idea that he could have been someone who was a home developer or possibly worked at a garage door company or repair shop, where he would have access many garage door openers are knew how to program one, I'm not really sure how garage door openers worked back then

  • James Allen

    James Allen Middle of Nowhere, Indiana

    Fairly new to the show, but I do very much enjoy it. Hopefully this doochecanoe either ended up on the wrong end of the right gun barrel or died in prison from being hammered in the chocolate hole by Bubba Longschlong. Have you gentlemen ever covered any cases from the Hoosier State?

    Fairly new to the show, but I do very much enjoy it. Hopefully this doochecanoe either ended up on the wrong end of the right gun barrel or died in prison from being hammered in the chocolate hole by Bubba Longschlong. Have you gentlemen ever covered any cases from the Hoosier State?

  • Angie

    Angie Bend, OR

    It sounds like Bruce Bennett had quite the confrontation with the murderer. I wonder if he fatally injured the guy, which is possibly why there were no other attacks in the area after the Bennett family was murdered. It’d be interesting to know if the police have worked this angle - checking death and hospital records in the days after the Bennett family was attacked.

    It sounds like Bruce Bennett had quite the confrontation with the murderer. I wonder if he fatally injured the guy, which is possibly why there were no other attacks in the area after the Bennett family was murdered. It’d be interesting to know if the police have worked this angle - checking death and hospital records in the days after the Bennett family was attacked.

  • Angie

    Angie Bend, OR

    Never mind my comment...just finished listening to part 2 :) Nic addressed it.

    Never mind my comment...just finished listening to part 2 smile Nic addressed it.

  • Jennifer

    Jennifer Colorado

    Great stuff, guys. I am a Colorado native and was in high school in Aurora when this happened. Just a correction on location. Lakewood is in the west-northwest part of metro Denver. Aurora is east-southeast of metro Denver. In good traffic, it would take about 45 to 60 minutes to drive from Aurora to Lakewood. Alameda is one of the main roads across town. You can easily take Alameda from Aurora to Lakewood.

    Great stuff, guys. I am a Colorado native and was in high school in Aurora when this happened.
    Just a correction on location. Lakewood is in the west-northwest part of metro Denver. Aurora is east-southeast of metro Denver. In good traffic, it would take about 45 to 60 minutes to drive from Aurora to Lakewood. Alameda is one of the main roads across town. You can easily take Alameda from Aurora to Lakewood.

  • Andrea

    Andrea Tewksbury, MA

    Awesome episodes! This case is horrifying and fascinating. Two things: 1. I agreed with the discussion about the intruder possibly committing suicide or dying after the Bennett Family attack. What if Bruce fought hard enough to cause some sort of internal bleeding or something that wasn't sudden enough to kill the intruder right away but slowly killed him later in the hospital? Does anyone know if they police looked into hospital records after that attack? 2. By all accounts, this was a big fight between Bruce and the intruder. I'd be curious to understand the layout of the house because I would think the wife or kids would hear the fight and have enough time to call 911 or escape or something? The way all of the bodies were found in their beds (I think) confuses me as to how this fight didn't wake any of them up. This makes me think the intruder brought the knife with him because I don't think he would have had time to go find a knife in the house and come back to Bruch without someone getting away or calling police.

    Awesome episodes! This case is horrifying and fascinating. Two things:
    1. I agreed with the discussion about the intruder possibly committing suicide or dying after the Bennett Family attack. What if Bruce fought hard enough to cause some sort of internal bleeding or something that wasn't sudden enough to kill the intruder right away but slowly killed him later in the hospital? Does anyone know if they police looked into hospital records after that attack?
    2. By all accounts, this was a big fight between Bruce and the intruder. I'd be curious to understand the layout of the house because I would think the wife or kids would hear the fight and have enough time to call 911 or escape or something? The way all of the bodies were found in their beds (I think) confuses me as to how this fight didn't wake any of them up. This makes me think the intruder brought the knife with him because I don't think he would have had time to go find a knife in the house and come back to Bruch without someone getting away or calling police.

  • TYLER

    TYLER ARIZONA

    I see where others have also suggested someone who works for a company that has the raised letters on their name tag. I was trying to figure out how letters would get transferred in blood without them being raised or embroidered so that definitely makes sense. Who knows but just throwing this out there if anyone has an opinion but other than "Richard" , which appears to me to be the most probable, if the letters were reversed you could maybe turn "PETAW-C" around into "WATER"....like the Aurora Water Department which may have had the familiar type of name tag and this would also give him a preview of different houses,families etc.....especially those that had recently moved in.

    I see where others have also suggested someone who works for a company that has the raised letters on their name tag. I was trying to figure out how letters would get transferred in blood without them being raised or embroidered so that definitely makes sense. Who knows but just throwing this out there if anyone has an opinion but other than "Richard" , which appears to me to be the most probable, if the letters were reversed you could maybe turn "PETAW-C" around into "WATER"....like the Aurora Water Department which may have had the familiar type of name tag and this would also give him a preview of different houses,families etc.....especially those that had recently moved in.

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    Hi James we have covered several IN cases... The Delphi murders, Lauren Spierer, the Burger chef murders and April Tinsley. Cheers Nic

    Hi James we have covered several IN cases...
    The Delphi murders, Lauren Spierer, the Burger chef murders and April Tinsley.
    Cheers Nic

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    Andrea I had wondered about that too. That is why I speculated that the phone line had been cut but then we learn that's not the case because Bruce's mother used the home phone to call 911. So my thought is this they very likely woke up at least 2 of the 3. They may have remained in their rooms out of fear. When I was a little kid in the 80's my home had 1 telephone - pretty common back then and it was located in the kitchen. This was probably the case for the Bennetts. Very sad. Nic

    Andrea I had wondered about that too. That is why I speculated that the phone line had been cut but then we learn that's not the case because Bruce's mother used the home phone to call 911. So my thought is this they very likely woke up at least 2 of the 3. They may have remained in their rooms out of fear. When I was a little kid in the 80's my home had 1 telephone - pretty common back then and it was located in the kitchen. This was probably the case for the Bennetts.
    Very sad. Nic

  • B

    B Parts Unknown

    I've never hear of this case; I have a few comments. 1. I too wonder about the layout of the Bennett house and why the family may not have woken up. If the garage door was open, perhaps the noise of it closing woke up Bruce. He goes to investigate, gets injured quickly then the killer kills the rest of the family then continues the fight with Bruce. This would explain why the rest of the family was in separate rooms and didn't appear to struggle (according to reports). I agree that the family may have had only 1 phone, that was pretty common back then. 2. The imprint from the killers shirt was probably a work shirt, but not necessarily a place he actually worked. He managed to get away with some very brazen attacks so I think he put a lot of thought into it. A work shirt/uniform would allow him to be in the area without arousing much suspicion, probably something that would allow him to walk around a neighborhood and not really stand out like a meter reader. Based on the timing of his crimes, he seemed to have a lot of free time to roam around and look for opportunities; I think all the attacks were crimes of opportunity. 3. I do believe the final attack on the Bennett family resulted in an injury or at least enough chaos to scare him away from the area. I don't think he killed himself or stopped and the police would have been smart enough to look for people with injuries at the hospitals. These were all brutal killings and likely not his first assaults. I believe people like this have a compulsion and they cannot just choose to stop. The attacks also kind of reminded me of Bundy's final spree when he didn't really have much to lose.

    I've never hear of this case; I have a few comments.
    1. I too wonder about the layout of the Bennett house and why the family may not have woken up. If the garage door was open, perhaps the noise of it closing woke up Bruce. He goes to investigate, gets injured quickly then the killer kills the rest of the family then continues the fight with Bruce. This would explain why the rest of the family was in separate rooms and didn't appear to struggle (according to reports). I agree that the family may have had only 1 phone, that was pretty common back then.
    2. The imprint from the killers shirt was probably a work shirt, but not necessarily a place he actually worked. He managed to get away with some very brazen attacks so I think he put a lot of thought into it. A work shirt/uniform would allow him to be in the area without arousing much suspicion, probably something that would allow him to walk around a neighborhood and not really stand out like a meter reader. Based on the timing of his crimes, he seemed to have a lot of free time to roam around and look for opportunities; I think all the attacks were crimes of opportunity.
    3. I do believe the final attack on the Bennett family resulted in an injury or at least enough chaos to scare him away from the area. I don't think he killed himself or stopped and the police would have been smart enough to look for people with injuries at the hospitals.
    These were all brutal killings and likely not his first assaults. I believe people like this have a compulsion and they cannot just choose to stop. The attacks also kind of reminded me of Bundy's final spree when he didn't really have much to lose.

  • Megan

    Megan The Village, OK

    Nic, it’s Cold CASE files with the one and only Bill Kurtis!!! Please redeem yourself by watching old episodes on YouTube. A home invasion is one of my worst fears. I grew up in the nineties and everyone left their garage door open overnight from time to time and woke up alive. I can’t imagine this happening in my neighborhood. It’s terrifying to think about.

    Nic, it’s Cold CASE files with the one and only Bill Kurtis!!! Please redeem yourself by watching old episodes on YouTube.

    A home invasion is one of my worst fears. I grew up in the nineties and everyone left their garage door open overnight from time to time and woke up alive. I can’t imagine this happening in my neighborhood. It’s terrifying to think about.

  • John

    John WI

    I don't think he was badly injured. The father, being unarmed, probably just grappled in effort to resist the intrusion. More so , he had the strength to kill and rape 2 more afterward. The guy conducted himself like a psycho. He clearly made no calculations or avoided risk. I am thinking he had a baaaad batch of drugs. Maybe OD'd or killed himself shortly after the murders.

    I don't think he was badly injured. The father, being unarmed, probably just grappled in effort to resist the intrusion. More so , he had the strength to kill and rape 2 more afterward.

    The guy conducted himself like a psycho. He clearly made no calculations or avoided risk. I am thinking he had a baaaad batch of drugs. Maybe OD'd or killed himself shortly after the murders.

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    It's possible he moved out of the area and changed his weapon.seeing how it failed him against Bruce. Also possible if he tried the same thing in a different area some homeowner woke up and plugged bullets in the guy until he died. His attacks were very high risk and I don't think he could have stopped. Nic

    It's possible he moved out of the area and changed his weapon.seeing how it failed him against Bruce. Also possible if he tried the same thing in a different area some homeowner woke up and plugged bullets in the guy until he died. His attacks were very high risk and I don't think he could have stopped. Nic

  • David

    David California

    [quote=TYLER] I see where others have also suggested someone who works for a company that has the raised letters on their name tag. I was trying to figure out how letters would get transferred in blood without them being raised or embroidered so that definitely makes sense. Who knows but just throwing this out there if anyone has an opinion but other than "Richard" , which appears to me to be the most probable, if the letters were reversed you could maybe turn "PETAW-C" around into "WATER"....like the Aurora Water Department which may have had the familiar type of name tag and this would also give him a preview of different houses,families etc.....especially those that had recently moved in. [/quote] I just finished with Pt 2 and I agree here with Tyler. I think the letters spell out Water too and the killer may have been employed with Aurora Water at the time as a Meter Reader or Technician. In such a position, the killer would know his way around residential properties and would have ample opportunity to strike whenever he could no longer resist his urges. Water Companies also tend to have excellent record retention for Personnel Records, Workers' Comp (injury) and even route assignment, etc. Thanks for the podcast!

    TYLER wrote:

    I see where others have also suggested someone who works for a company that has the raised letters on their name tag. I was trying to figure out how letters would get transferred in blood without them being raised or embroidered so that definitely makes sense. Who knows but just throwing this out there if anyone has an opinion but other than "Richard" , which appears to me to be the most probable, if the letters were reversed you could maybe turn "PETAW-C" around into "WATER"....like the Aurora Water Department which may have had the familiar type of name tag and this would also give him a preview of different houses,families etc.....especially those that had recently moved in.

    I just finished with Pt 2 and I agree here with Tyler. I think the letters spell out Water too and the killer may have been employed with Aurora Water at the time as a Meter Reader or Technician. In such a position, the killer would know his way around residential properties and would have ample opportunity to strike whenever he could no longer resist his urges. Water Companies also tend to have excellent record retention for Personnel Records, Workers' Comp (injury) and even route assignment, etc. Thanks for the podcast!

  • Womp Womp

    Womp Womp Bizarro World USA

    I wonder if police have looked at delivery people... like a postal carrier, newspaper delivery man, UPS driver... a mailman for instance, would know generally how many people were in the house, if they were out of town and were potentially holding their mail (Dixon), if a new family just moved in (Bennetts), and roughly when people are around during their deliveries (Smith). They would also know what houses have dogs and thus which ones to avoid. They might also note who doesn't keep things locked. Most delivery people have badges on their shirts... sometimes with name tags, sometimes just the company. Delivery people start their routes usually very early in the morning, so that could've disguised an unusual schedule to loved ones on some of the murder dates. As I understand it, some mail carriers will have set routes, but depending on seniority, might bounce around to routes that need to be covered or to different areas if say, the usual carrier is on vacation or is very behind on their route. So that could account for knowing the victims' addresses even if they are far apart. Also, it's possible that this person had a rotating day off schedule, like maybe they had every sixth day off... which corresponds to the murder dates.. Jan 4th, 10th, 16th.. That being said, he most likely died soon after the last killing. Or at least moved. Or went into the military.. or got so far into drugs that he didn't come out. It's difficult to imagine what could've stopped him if death didn't.

    I wonder if police have looked at delivery people... like a postal carrier, newspaper delivery man, UPS driver... a mailman for instance, would know generally how many people were in the house, if they were out of town and were potentially holding their mail (Dixon), if a new family just moved in (Bennetts), and roughly when people are around during their deliveries (Smith). They would also know what houses have dogs and thus which ones to avoid. They might also note who doesn't keep things locked. Most delivery people have badges on their shirts... sometimes with name tags, sometimes just the company.

    Delivery people start their routes usually very early in the morning, so that could've disguised an unusual schedule to loved ones on some of the murder dates. As I understand it, some mail carriers will have set routes, but depending on seniority, might bounce around to routes that need to be covered or to different areas if say, the usual carrier is on vacation or is very behind on their route. So that could account for knowing the victims' addresses even if they are far apart. Also, it's possible that this person had a rotating day off schedule, like maybe they had every sixth day off... which corresponds to the murder dates.. Jan 4th, 10th, 16th..

    That being said, he most likely died soon after the last killing. Or at least moved. Or went into the military.. or got so far into drugs that he didn't come out. It's difficult to imagine what could've stopped him if death didn't.

  • Tia

    Tia Denver, Colorado

    I was 9 and living in Aurora when this happened. It was searing on the community. What is really scary is that at the time we had no idea this was a serial killer at work. The murder in Lakewood and the other attacks weren't connected yet or from what I remember even mentioned in the news. I think most people thought this was an isolated act and many assumed it was someone who knew the Bennetts or was a family member. I remember many folks putting double deadbolt locks on their doors. Kids weren't allowed to walk home from school alone and many gathered in groups at houses where parents were present until their parents could pick them up after school. I remember my older brother and cousin joking one night they were going to go out hunting "the hammer killer." They had baseball bats. I was scared. A friend from church lived on the same street as the murder and said the kids kept going up to the house and looking through the windows. Police (or someone) put newspapers up over the windows but not before the kids saw bloody handprints on the walls and blood all over the carpet (or so my friend said he saw). I just hope someone related to this monster goes into the system someday and they can link through the DNA. It seems like that is the only way it will ever be solved. I drive past this house every now and then - I'm not sure why. One day there was a big fluffy dog on the lawn and people outside and it was bizarre to see folks living there peacefully when something so horrendous had once happened there.

    I was 9 and living in Aurora when this happened. It was searing on the community. What is really scary is that at the time we had no idea this was a serial killer at work. The murder in Lakewood and the other attacks weren't connected yet or from what I remember even mentioned in the news. I think most people thought this was an isolated act and many assumed it was someone who knew the Bennetts or was a family member. I remember many folks putting double deadbolt locks on their doors. Kids weren't allowed to walk home from school alone and many gathered in groups at houses where parents were present until their parents could pick them up after school. I remember my older brother and cousin joking one night they were going to go out hunting "the hammer killer." They had baseball bats. I was scared. A friend from church lived on the same street as the murder and said the kids kept going up to the house and looking through the windows. Police (or someone) put newspapers up over the windows but not before the kids saw bloody handprints on the walls and blood all over the carpet (or so my friend said he saw).

    I just hope someone related to this monster goes into the system someday and they can link through the DNA. It seems like that is the only way it will ever be solved. I drive past this house every now and then - I'm not sure why. One day there was a big fluffy dog on the lawn and people outside and it was bizarre to see folks living there peacefully when something so horrendous had once happened there.

  • Tucker K

    Tucker K Princeton, Indiana

    Great show. This guy was a creep. Have you ever considered doing an episode on the Murder of Shanda Sharer?

    Great show. This guy was a creep. Have you ever considered doing an episode on the Murder of Shanda Sharer?

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    Thanks for the insight Tia and Tucker we will add Shanda's case to our list to review. Cheers all! Nic

    Thanks for the insight Tia and Tucker we will add Shanda's case to our list to review.
    Cheers all! Nic

  • Hume Man

    Hume Man Iowa

    These caveman attacks have psychosis written all over them, perhaps untreated schizophrenia--though it must be pointed out that schizophrenics are rarely violent.

    These caveman attacks have psychosis written all over them, perhaps untreated schizophrenia--though it must be pointed out that schizophrenics are rarely violent.

  • Ken

    Ken Las Cruces, NM

    [quote=Jennifer] Great stuff, guys. I am a Colorado native and was in high school in Aurora when this happened. Just a correction on location. Lakewood is in the west-northwest part of metro Denver. Aurora is east-southeast of metro Denver. In good traffic, it would take about 45 to 60 minutes to drive from Aurora to Lakewood. Alameda is one of the main roads across town. You can easily take Alameda from Aurora to Lakewood. [/quote] I'm from there too. Vaughn elementary in Aurora, and Alameda HS in Lakewood.

    Jennifer wrote:

    Great stuff, guys. I am a Colorado native and was in high school in Aurora when this happened.
    Just a correction on location. Lakewood is in the west-northwest part of metro Denver. Aurora is east-southeast of metro Denver. In good traffic, it would take about 45 to 60 minutes to drive from Aurora to Lakewood. Alameda is one of the main roads across town. You can easily take Alameda from Aurora to Lakewood.

    I'm from there too. Vaughn elementary in Aurora, and Alameda HS in Lakewood.

  • mg

    mg teXas

    The attacks appear to be the work of a psychopath, random. But obviously there are consistencies to his MO, using a hammer, gaining entry through garages. He knew that some families don't lock their garage doors and some people fail to lock the house doors that are connected to the garage. So we have a psychopath that goes into homes and senselessly hammers people to death, BUT, he has the analytical know with all to stick to an intelligent plan for entry. Hard to imagine this guy stopping what he was doing until he died or got caught. My guess is he was arrested for something else and sentenced to prison, there he most likely got into further trouble and stayed confined to prison or a state hospital.

    The attacks appear to be the work of a psychopath, random. But obviously there are consistencies to his MO, using a hammer, gaining entry through garages. He knew that some families don't lock their garage doors and some people fail to lock the house doors that are connected to the garage. So we have a psychopath that goes into homes and senselessly hammers people to death, BUT, he has the analytical know with all to stick to an intelligent plan for entry. Hard to imagine this guy stopping what he was doing until he died or got caught. My guess is he was arrested for something else and sentenced to prison, there he most likely got into further trouble and stayed confined to prison or a state hospital.

  • Brandon

    Brandon WY

    Great Episode guys. I am currently investigating a Suspect that I know and see daily. He is a janitor that cleans our work office. He was convicted of Rape with home intrusion in 1988 and served time. He also live in several locations in CO at the time and matches the composite very well and is 60 years old today. I plan to forward the info onto investigators. I assume that his DNA is on file and that the CBI has tried to match against any surrounding states but this is worth a try.

    Great Episode guys. I am currently investigating a Suspect that I know and see daily. He is a janitor that cleans our work office. He was convicted of Rape with home intrusion in 1988 and served time. He also live in several locations in CO at the time and matches the composite very well and is 60 years old today. I plan to forward the info onto investigators. I assume that his DNA is on file and that the CBI has tried to match against any surrounding states but this is worth a try.

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    It can't hurt. If you don't do anything you'll regret it. Keep us posted. Don't put anything specific on here a lot of these guys keep tabs on everything. Nic

    It can't hurt. If you don't do anything you'll regret it. Keep us posted. Don't put anything specific on here a lot of these guys keep tabs on everything.
    Nic

  • Barbara B.

    Barbara B.

    Fascinating and terrifying case. I had not heard of this one and enjoy listening to cases that I am unfamiliar with. I think that these attacks are related and that the killer would not have been able to stop committing crimes like this. He either moved, passed away or maybe got arrested for something else and is in jail. I like the theory that Bruce may have fatally injured the perpetrator when he fought back but I cannot imagine, if this was the case, him being able to focus and have the strength to rape and kill the other people in the house. When I think of the scenario you described with Bruce I imagine Boromir from LOTR. He kept getting shot with arrows and still fought! Sorry if that is inappropriate but that is what popped into my mind. Bruce is a hero and I am sad for all the victims. As always, keep up the great work!

    Fascinating and terrifying case. I had not heard of this one and enjoy listening to cases that I am unfamiliar with.
    I think that these attacks are related and that the killer would not have been able to stop committing crimes like this. He either moved, passed away or maybe got arrested for something else and is in jail.
    I like the theory that Bruce may have fatally injured the perpetrator when he fought back but I cannot imagine, if this was the case, him being able to focus and have the strength to rape and kill the other people in the house.
    When I think of the scenario you described with Bruce I imagine Boromir from LOTR. He kept getting shot with arrows and still fought! Sorry if that is inappropriate but that is what popped into my mind. Bruce is a hero and I am sad for all the victims.
    As always, keep up the great work!

  • Amy

    Amy NJ

    I believe he did plan the murders. He knew where and when. He did go through the garage or did they all recently move into the area? What about a repair man or Real estate, home furniture purchase. There has to be a link between the cases. For his motive to just be rape and murder random why kill the kids. He could’ve killed the parents and walked out. Idk. That’s a huge risk to this scumbag to not have cased the places first. People have guns and dogs ? Idk garage repair man. Hvac? Something has to link it all.

    I believe he did plan the murders. He knew where and when. He did go through the garage or did they all recently move into the area? What about a repair man or Real estate, home furniture purchase. There has to be a link between the cases. For his motive to just be rape and murder random why kill the kids. He could’ve killed the parents and walked out. Idk. That’s a huge risk to this scumbag to not have cased the places first. People have guns and dogs ? Idk garage repair man. Hvac? Something has to link it all.

  • Amy

    Amy Nj

    Did they ever find blood of the murderer near Bruce’s body? Because if he was fatally injured like you guys thought there would need to be blood

    Did they ever find blood of the murderer near Bruce’s body? Because if he was fatally injured like you guys thought there would need to be blood

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    I don't think he was fatally injured by Bruce. I may have been unclear on the show. We only know that there was DNA found. Probably from the rapes. I don't think he had an injury that would kill him, just one that was significant enough to stop him either for good or at least until he healed up. Could have tore something, fractured a bone. Rolled and broke an ankle or wrist. Eye gouge. The murder of the kids could have been the result of rage from the fight with Bruce. Just thoughts. Makes me angry just thinking about it. I would love to read an FBI profile on this killer. Nic

    I don't think he was fatally injured by Bruce. I may have been unclear on the show. We only know that there was DNA found. Probably from the rapes. I don't think he had an injury that would kill him, just one that was significant enough to stop him either for good or at least until he healed up. Could have tore something, fractured a bone. Rolled and broke an ankle or wrist. Eye gouge. The murder of the kids could have been the result of rage from the fight with Bruce. Just thoughts. Makes me angry just thinking about it. I would love to read an FBI profile on this killer.
    Nic

  • Karen

    Karen Romeoville IL.

    This is my first time ever that I listened to your podcast and I found this story very interesting and sad. Thank you. My sister made me to listen to the story as something similar happened to us. Although our story had a much better outcome. We moved in to a Townhouse around the same time in the 1980's. We had so many contractors in and out of the subdivision all the time. There where cable installers, water meter readers, electric meter readers, phone company personal, village code enforcers, animal control and news paper delivery people on the property all the time. Somehow with all those people around came a false scene of security. I thought my subdivision was a safe place. The townhouse also had an attached garage with an entry door into the house. I used to leave my car unlocked during the day on the driveway with my garage door opener in it on the visor. Sometimes if it where a nice day with the windows down (open). I also used to stop at home during the day for lunch. One night we awoke to the sound of our garage door opening. My husband got up to see what was going on but saw no one, but our garage door opened. The next day I noticed the garage door opener was missing off of my visor. I mentioned it to my husband. Two days later it reappeared back onto my car's visor. That scared me so I made it a habit of locking my car at all times even when I was just a few feet away in the house. My husband traveled out of town a lot and at times for weeks.Two weeks later around 1:30 a.m. it happened again this time my husband was out of town and I was dog sitting my sisters dog. I got up and as I got to the landing the dog got to the inside garage door first and as it opened he bit the hand of the guy as he tried to enter into my house. The man screamed and ran off (as quick as I let the dog out after him he varnished into the night). All I thought about for the rest of the night was the disappearing and reappearing garage door opener. It was an older style garage door opener from the early 80's and it only had a few security code setting to it. I believe that he stole it from my car and bought or had the same garage door opener and duplicated the code and used it to gain entry into my house. In the 1980's there where less than a handful of company 's that made garage door openers and if you lost one you could always go to Sears or Ace Hardware and buy a universal garage door opener. Fast forward to 2018 now we use a timer on all garage door openers we ever own. We set it so the there is no electricity to it at night when we are sleeping and when we are at work during the day and when we go on vacation; And yes sometimes it can be a bet inconvenient but safety first. If you want to come into our house you'll have to knock on the front door during the day like everyone else.

    This is my first time ever that I listened to your podcast and I found this story very interesting and sad. Thank you. My sister made me to listen to the story as something similar happened to us. Although our story had a much better outcome.

    We moved in to a Townhouse around the same time in the 1980's. We had so many contractors in and out of the subdivision all the time. There where cable installers, water meter readers, electric meter readers, phone company personal, village code enforcers, animal control and news paper delivery people on the property all the time. Somehow with all those people around came a false scene of security. I thought my subdivision was a safe place. The townhouse also had an attached garage with an entry door into the house. I used to leave my car unlocked during the day on the driveway with my garage door opener in it on the visor. Sometimes if it where a nice day with the windows down (open). I also used to stop at home during the day for lunch.
    One night we awoke to the sound of our garage door opening. My husband got up to see what was going on but saw no one, but our garage door opened. The next day I noticed the garage door opener was missing off of my visor. I mentioned it to my husband. Two days later it reappeared back onto my car's visor. That scared me so I made it a habit of locking my car at all times even when I was just a few feet away in the house.
    My husband traveled out of town a lot and at times for weeks.Two weeks later around 1:30 a.m. it happened again this time my husband was out of town and I was dog sitting my sisters dog. I got up and as I got to the landing the dog got to the inside garage door first and as it opened he bit the hand of the guy as he tried to enter into my house. The man screamed and ran off (as quick as I let the dog out after him he varnished into the night).
    All I thought about for the rest of the night was the disappearing and reappearing garage door opener. It was an older style garage door opener from the early 80's and it only had a few security code setting to it. I believe that he stole it from my car and bought or had the same garage door opener and duplicated the code and used it to gain entry into my house. In the 1980's there where less than a handful of company 's that made garage door openers and if you lost one you could always go to Sears or Ace Hardware and buy a universal garage door opener.
    Fast forward to 2018 now we use a timer on all garage door openers we ever own. We set it so the there is no electricity to it at night when we are sleeping and when we are at work during the day and when we go on vacation; And yes sometimes it can be a bet inconvenient but safety first. If you want to come into our house you'll have to knock on the front door during the day like everyone else.

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous Mena, AR

    I just watched an episode of On The Case With Paula Zahn about these murders/attacks. I wonder if Bruce might not have been home during the initial attack on his wife and daughters, and he interrupted the killer. It looks to have been a brutal struggle, and seems unlikely the killer wouldn't have sustained some sort of injury. If he was injured, you'd think his first instinct would be to tend to this. But then again, we aren't talking about a rational person. The other reason I wonder about this, however, is that in the other cases, there wasn't a man in the house, and I wonder if the killer knew that and had waited for this opportunity. Is it possible Bruce surprised him? I don't see how this vicious of a killer could stop himself, unless he was dead. Perhaps killing a child actually had some effect on his warped conscience and he committed suicide. Karen, your story is terrifying! Did you live in the area these crimes were committed? Did this happen after the Bennett murders? Did you report the incident? I know it's horrifying to think this intruder might have been this same murderer, but there are some similarities with the garage door opener, and even your husband being away. The intruder didn't count on you dog sitting, thank god! Stealing and duplicating a garage door opener, and then replacing it, is bold and shows a lot of forethought. Perhaps whoever did it counted on it not being noticed as missing until he replaced it, or believed you'd think it was merely misplaced and then found. The recent I suggest this is my own experience. About a year ago, an intruder entered our home, and when I became aware something was off, my first reaction was to try and rationalize it away, with thoughts like, "Hubby's home ", and then, "Our house is old and it creaks." After that, "Maybe my mom came over ." She lives up the road. Although, when I saw no mother, I called her and she was at her house and had been all day. I even wondered if my best friend might be playing a joke on me. We have this hideous Nefertiti replica bust that we continually sneak into one another's home and leave in some conspicuous spot, at least we used to that. My point being, I tried to explain away what was happening with all sorts of other options before I realized someone was in our home. Some have suggested the crimes stopped because the killer was in jail for something else, but if that were the case, shouldn't they get a hit with DNA? For this person to be in jail for an extended length of time, he would have to have been imprisoned for something violent, so wouldn't his DNA be on record. If he were imprisoned for a non violent offense, I would think he'd pick right back up once he was released. I suppose he could have changed his MO. Sounds like the Bennett attack didn't go like he intended, and who knows, he might have tied again, but maybe that too didn't go well, and he changed to something less risky.

    I just watched an episode of On The Case With Paula Zahn about these murders/attacks. I wonder if Bruce might not have been home during the initial attack on his wife and daughters, and he interrupted the killer. It looks to have been a brutal struggle, and seems unlikely the killer wouldn't have sustained some sort of injury. If he was injured, you'd think his first instinct would be to tend to this. But then again, we aren't talking about a rational person. The other reason I wonder about this, however, is that in the other cases, there wasn't a man in the house, and I wonder if the killer knew that and had waited for this opportunity. Is it possible Bruce surprised him?

    I don't see how this vicious of a killer could stop himself, unless he was dead. Perhaps killing a child actually had some effect on his warped conscience and he committed suicide.

    Karen, your story is terrifying! Did you live in the area these crimes were committed? Did this happen after the Bennett murders? Did you report the incident? I know it's horrifying to think this intruder might have been this same murderer, but there are some similarities with the garage door opener, and even your husband being away. The intruder didn't count on you dog sitting, thank god!

    Stealing and duplicating a garage door opener, and then replacing it, is bold and shows a lot of forethought. Perhaps whoever did it counted on it not being noticed as missing until he replaced it, or believed you'd think it was merely misplaced and then found. The recent I suggest this is my own experience. About a year ago, an intruder entered our home, and when I became aware something was off, my first reaction was to try and rationalize it away, with thoughts like, "Hubby's home ", and then, "Our house is old and it creaks." After that, "Maybe my mom came over ." She lives up the road. Although, when I saw no mother, I called her and she was at her house and had been all day. I even wondered if my best friend might be playing a joke on me. We have this hideous Nefertiti replica bust that we continually sneak into one another's home and leave in some conspicuous spot, at least we used to that. My point being, I tried to explain away what was happening with all sorts of other options before I realized someone was in our home.

    Some have suggested the crimes stopped because the killer was in jail for something else, but if that were the case, shouldn't they get a hit with DNA? For this person to be in jail for an extended length of time, he would have to have been imprisoned for something violent, so wouldn't his DNA be on record. If he were imprisoned for a non violent offense, I would think he'd pick right back up once he was released. I suppose he could have changed his MO. Sounds like the Bennett attack didn't go like he intended, and who knows, he might have tied again, but maybe that too didn't go well, and he changed to something less risky.

  • Don

    Don OK

    I've worked out the RICHAR PETAW-C thing and have come up with a couple scenarios. You can extrapolate these ciphers from ACE HARDWARE AND PAINT. where else would you get your hammers? The other scenario might be lovers quarrels as where Bruce Bennett, Donna Dixon, and Donna Dixon's to-be husband "Holm" all worked at the airport. The words AIRCREW & even AIRPORT CREW can be extrapolated from RICHAR PETAW-C especially if the C is half a O. I Believe Bruce got the knife from the kitchen and bled the attacker to spill DNA, and attacker got the knife from Bruce and cut his throat. The rapes were indicative of vengeance and rage related to extramarital affairs. Patricia Smith was an accidental death, as in mistaken identity for Donna Dixon, which explains the reverent display of her body with arms crossed, which historically means "I'm sorry" or MISTAKE. MIS-TAKEN

    I've worked out the RICHAR PETAW-C thing and have come up with a couple scenarios. You can extrapolate these ciphers from ACE HARDWARE AND PAINT. where else would you get your hammers?
    The other scenario might be lovers quarrels as where Bruce Bennett, Donna Dixon, and Donna Dixon's to-be husband "Holm" all worked at the airport. The words AIRCREW & even AIRPORT CREW can be extrapolated from RICHAR PETAW-C especially if the C is half a
    O.

    I Believe Bruce got the knife from the kitchen and bled the attacker to spill DNA, and attacker got the knife from Bruce and cut his throat. The rapes were indicative of vengeance and rage related to extramarital affairs.

    Patricia Smith was an accidental death, as in mistaken identity for Donna Dixon, which explains the reverent display of her body with arms crossed, which historically means "I'm sorry" or MISTAKE. MIS-TAKEN

  • Don

    Don OK

    But then again, if we do what what forensics insists upon, which is of course the correct method, "follow the evidence," then we are left with the hammer from the related DNA crime scene of Patricia Smith on January 10, 1984, six days before the Bennett family homicides. DNA aside, one might determine much evidence and clues simply by ascertaining the make, model, and manufacturer of the hammer. Once this is determined, we could refine our search as to "where" and "when" this type of hammer was sent. And indeed, the "type" of hammer is an essential element in determining "who" would use it. There are drywall hammers, electrician hammers, roofing hammers, framing hammers, aircraft maintenance hammers, welding hammers, and the list goes on and on. Since the so-called "blood stain" transfer has failed thus far to prove anything, perhaps the more definitive and wholesome piece of evidence, the murder weapon itself could tell us all we need to know about the killer, and combine with the DNA can place itself in the hands of the killer, literally.

    But then again, if we do what what forensics insists upon, which is of course the correct method, "follow the evidence," then we are left with the hammer from the related DNA crime scene of Patricia Smith on January 10, 1984, six days before the Bennett family homicides. DNA aside, one might determine much evidence and clues simply by ascertaining the make, model, and manufacturer of the hammer. Once this is determined, we could refine our search as to "where" and "when" this type of hammer was sent. And indeed, the "type" of hammer is an essential element in determining "who" would use it. There are drywall hammers, electrician hammers, roofing hammers, framing hammers, aircraft maintenance hammers, welding hammers, and the list goes on and on. Since the so-called "blood stain" transfer has failed thus far to prove anything, perhaps the more definitive and wholesome piece of evidence, the murder weapon itself could tell us all we need to know about the killer, and combine with the DNA can place itself in the hands of the killer, literally.

  • Steven

    Steven Madison WI

    The only other thing I could think of that would explain the stopping would be some sort of split/multiple personality that asserted itself for a few weeks and then left and never came back, but I think the last attack destroying the illusion of invincibility is more likely.

    The only other thing I could think of that would explain the stopping would be some sort of split/multiple personality that asserted itself for a few weeks and then left and never came back, but I think the last attack destroying the illusion of invincibility is more likely.

  • Jana

    Jana Aurora, CO

    I have lived in Aurora for 4 years and always wondered why police in the metro area are so instant about people closing their garage doors. They take out adds during warmer weather to encourage people to close them even when they are at home working in the yard. These episodes gave me so much insight into this part of living in this beautiful area. Of course now no door will be unlocked, even when I'm home.

    I have lived in Aurora for 4 years and always wondered why police in the metro area are so instant about people closing their garage doors. They take out adds during warmer weather to encourage people to close them even when they are at home working in the yard. These episodes gave me so much insight into this part of living in this beautiful area. Of course now no door will be unlocked, even when I'm home.

  • SpecialK

    SpecialK

    Amazing podcast you gents have put together here. This was the first episode I listened to since I grew up in Lakewood, CO but was too young to remember these horrific crimes. I have since listened to as many episodes as I can cram into my ears working the night shift out here. Just wanted to throw you guys a bone on some updated info regarding this case. It appears like the Aurora PD is going to attempt a DNA match similar to the one that just caught that shit bird Golden State Killer. Here is the link to the local news cast that broke the story. https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/investigations/aurora-cold-case-investigators-seek-genealogy-dna-link-to-solve-notorious-hammer-murders Cheers mates!!

    Amazing podcast you gents have put together here. This was the first episode I listened to since I grew up in Lakewood, CO but was too young to remember these horrific crimes. I have since listened to as many episodes as I can cram into my ears working the night shift out here. Just wanted to throw you guys a bone on some updated info regarding this case. It appears like the Aurora PD is going to attempt a DNA match similar to the one that just caught that shit bird Golden State Killer. Here is the link to the local news cast that broke the story.
    https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/investigations/aurora-cold-case-investigators-seek-genealogy-dna-link-to-solve-notorious-hammer-murders

    Cheers mates!!

  • Layne

    Layne

    I love your podcast, it has taken over my morning commute to work. Has anyone asked you to pursue “the prom night murders” that took place in Huntington, WV? As it suggests, 4 teenagers were murdered after prom in 2005. In the 13 years since, there have been many rumors; but no arrests. It would be interesting to hear your take on it. Thanks and keep up the good work!,

    I love your podcast, it has taken over my morning commute to work. Has anyone asked you to pursue “the prom night murders” that took place in Huntington, WV? As it suggests, 4 teenagers were murdered after prom in 2005. In the 13 years since, there have been many rumors; but no arrests. It would be interesting to hear your take on it. Thanks and keep up the good work!,

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Thanks Layne, I had not heard of that case. We will check it out. Cheers Nic

    Thanks Layne,
    I had not heard of that case. We will check it out.
    Cheers
    Nic

  • Jennifer

    Jennifer Denver

    [quote=TYLER] I see where others have also suggested someone who works for a company that has the raised letters on their name tag. I was trying to figure out how letters would get transferred in blood without them being raised or embroidered so that definitely makes sense. Who knows but just throwing this out there if anyone has an opinion but other than "Richard" , which appears to me to be the most probable, if the letters were reversed you could maybe turn "PETAW-C" around into "WATER"....like the Aurora Water Department which may have had the familiar type of name tag and this would also give him a preview of different houses,families etc.....especially those that had recently moved in. [/quote] I'm with Tyler, here. IF the shirt had anything to do with the murderer and want just some random shirt he borrowed, I also thought it might be 'Water', maybe even Consolidated Water in Lakewood. He might have even driven a work truck or something, making people take little notice of his vehicle being parked in strange places. You don't think much of a water truck.

    TYLER wrote:

    I see where others have also suggested someone who works for a company that has the raised letters on their name tag. I was trying to figure out how letters would get transferred in blood without them being raised or embroidered so that definitely makes sense. Who knows but just throwing this out there if anyone has an opinion but other than "Richard" , which appears to me to be the most probable, if the letters were reversed you could maybe turn "PETAW-C" around into "WATER"....like the Aurora Water Department which may have had the familiar type of name tag and this would also give him a preview of different houses,families etc.....especially those that had recently moved in.

    I'm with Tyler, here. IF the shirt had anything to do with the murderer and want just some random shirt he borrowed, I also thought it might be 'Water', maybe even Consolidated Water in Lakewood. He might have even driven a work truck or something, making people take little notice of his vehicle being parked in strange places. You don't think much of a water truck.

  • Illysa

    Illysa

    Getting caught up on old episodes as I have recently become obsessed with TCG and just listened to this one this morning. Something I wondered - why was Patricia the only one that had jewelry taken? Was this a trophy? If so, why were no other "trophies" taken from the other victims? If not a trophy, why else take the rings and earrings (I think it was earrings)? Did he have a girlfriend/spouse that he gave these to? Did he pawn them? Also why was she somewhat posed when the others were not? Looking at this from a John Douglas perspective, this victim appears different from the others (although I guess part of the argument could be most of the others survived...). I agree with Nic, I would love to read the profile. Seems like a pretty mixed presentation here. Thanks for great work, as always.

    Getting caught up on old episodes as I have recently become obsessed with TCG and just listened to this one this morning. Something I wondered - why was Patricia the only one that had jewelry taken? Was this a trophy? If so, why were no other "trophies" taken from the other victims? If not a trophy, why else take the rings and earrings (I think it was earrings)? Did he have a girlfriend/spouse that he gave these to? Did he pawn them? Also why was she somewhat posed when the others were not? Looking at this from a John Douglas perspective, this victim appears different from the others (although I guess part of the argument could be most of the others survived...).
    I agree with Nic, I would love to read the profile. Seems like a pretty mixed presentation here.
    Thanks for great work, as always.

  • Sir

    Sir CA

    I have some insight as well as working about this. 1) Connie, mother of Bennett father, stated she found her son dead on the stairs going downtown to a lower level. That would give the intruder the upper hand. I think we have assumed that the bedrooms were upstairs. Colonel Nick insinuated and maybe even said upstairs. 2) with most burglaries, the intruder enters through the garage, mainly because most garages have a door that connects to the outside, usually to the side of the house behind a back gate. Often that is left unlocked. 3) lastly, Donna Dixon's daughter said she saw her mom's car outside of the garage when she arrived, yet we've been told she was attached insurance her garage. There was supposedly blood found on her wheel well, which doesn't make sense if she parked in community parking or outside her garage. How do we make the two work? Was she attached outside get car and get head banned against the wheel well or inside the garage or both? Food for thought. Sir bond.sirvent@gmail.com

    I have some insight as well as working about this.

    1) Connie, mother of Bennett father, stated she found her son dead on the stairs going downtown to a lower level. That would give the intruder the upper hand. I think we have assumed that the bedrooms were upstairs. Colonel Nick insinuated and maybe even said upstairs.

    2) with most burglaries, the intruder enters through the garage, mainly because most garages have a door that connects to the outside, usually to the side of the house behind a back gate. Often that is left unlocked.

    3) lastly, Donna Dixon's daughter said she saw her mom's car outside of the garage when she arrived, yet we've been told she was attached insurance her garage. There was supposedly blood found on her wheel well, which doesn't make sense if she parked in community parking or outside her garage. How do we make the two work? Was she attached outside get car and get head banned against the wheel well or inside the garage or both?

    Food for thought.
    Sir
    bond.sirvent@gmail.com

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Hi Sir, I'm not understanding #3 that you have listed. I think you may have mixed the attack on a surviving victim into one of the murdered victims. I don't have my notes here but this would be the airline stewardess and the Grandmother, two separate attacks. Cheers Nic

    Hi Sir,
    I'm not understanding #3 that you have listed. I think you may have mixed the attack on a surviving victim into one of the murdered victims. I don't have my notes here but this would be the airline stewardess and the Grandmother, two separate attacks.
    Cheers Nic

  • J Mar

    J Mar Ohio

    Do we know if the police still have DNA of the perp and will it be uploaded to genetic websites? I am hoping this happens ASAP. This can't be forgotten.

    Do we know if the police still have DNA of the perp and will it be uploaded to genetic websites? I am hoping this happens ASAP. This can't be forgotten.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Yes J mar they still have it. In fact after the Ears/ONS loser was finally caught, Aurora said they will try the same method with the hammer man. It might be only a matter of time before we know who this monster is. Cheers Nic

    Yes J mar they still have it. In fact after the Ears/ONS loser was finally caught, Aurora said they will try the same method with the hammer man. It might be only a matter of time before we know who this monster is.
    Cheers Nic

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