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  • Lorie

    Lorie Phoenix, AZ

    Hi ~ Awesome awesome episode. I listen to a lot of podcasts but this is the first Jesse Ross episode I've come across. I wanted to comment on the theory surrounding suicide, and this may or may not be anything but, not having found him after all this time may not mean the theory is wrong. Very rare, of course but still.. Back in 2005, Seattle punk rock musician Brian Barton disappeared weeks before his band was to go out on their first big tour. According to those around him - same thoughts about 'no way, things were going great' etc. On or about July 30 2017 - 12 years later, they found his remains a mile from his home and it was ruled a suicide. I just wanted to comment.., again not sure if it's of importance to Jesse Ross case, but, having a brother who chose the short road out, and of course the recent spate of high-profiles, this episode made me thing. Ya know? Thanks, and cheers!

    Hi ~
    Awesome awesome episode. I listen to a lot of podcasts but this is the first Jesse Ross episode I've come across.

    I wanted to comment on the theory surrounding suicide, and this may or may not be anything but, not having found him after all this time may not mean the theory is wrong. Very rare, of course but still..

    Back in 2005, Seattle punk rock musician Brian Barton disappeared weeks before his band was to go out on their first big tour. According to those around him - same thoughts about 'no way, things were going great' etc.

    On or about July 30 2017 - 12 years later, they found his remains a mile from his home and it was ruled a suicide.

    I just wanted to comment.., again not sure if it's of importance to Jesse Ross case, but, having a brother who chose the short road out, and of course the recent spate of high-profiles, this episode made me thing. Ya know?

    Thanks, and cheers!

  • John

    John WI

    Great episode. My theory would be a mentally ill street person, possibly a schizophrenic hearing voices, simply came across Jesse near a bridge who then quickly and violently shoved him over. Fits all the facts we know of and virtually impossible to solve..especially if the killer didn't even remember the events. I find it a amusing that Nic and Captain are clearly "live and let live" libertarian guys but they always get stymied by the LACK of surveillance video in cases like these. But seriously, I share their frustration. We want all these damn cameras to do some good for once. Nic, I always hear you talk about iTunes. I hope you guys get credit for all of us out here who listen on other podcast apps. Keep up the great work!

    Great episode.

    My theory would be a mentally ill street person, possibly a schizophrenic hearing voices, simply came across Jesse near a bridge who then quickly and violently shoved him over. Fits all the facts we know of and virtually impossible to solve..especially if the killer didn't even remember the events.

    I find it a amusing that Nic and Captain are clearly "live and let live" libertarian guys but they always get stymied by the LACK of surveillance video in cases like these. But seriously, I share their frustration. We want all these damn cameras to do some good for once.

    Nic, I always hear you talk about iTunes. I hope you guys get credit for all of us out here who listen on other podcast apps. Keep up the great work!

  • Tina

    Tina Chicago

    Interesting story, I hadn't heard of this one before. Where he was, it would be difficult to accidentally slip and fall in the river, as there is no "riverbank" you can walk up to and you'd have to climb over the railing. I also am really surprised he isn't on any surveillance footage anywhere. Though 10 years ago I guess there were fewer cameras around, but I still find that pretty strange. I just wanted to point out that the Chicago River flows away from Lake Michigan, not into it (feat of engineering early last century!). Also, we are not the murder capital of the world .... we are generally not even in the top 10 or 20 cities for murder rate in the US, depending on the list you look at. Just wanted to mention that! He was in a pretty safe, touristy area, though I know that doesn't mean he couldn't have met with foul play, and that seems like the most likely scenario, unfortunately, based on what I heard about him. Anyways, I hope this is eventually solved so his family can get some closure.

    Interesting story, I hadn't heard of this one before. Where he was, it would be difficult to accidentally slip and fall in the river, as there is no "riverbank" you can walk up to and you'd have to climb over the railing. I also am really surprised he isn't on any surveillance footage anywhere. Though 10 years ago I guess there were fewer cameras around, but I still find that pretty strange.

    I just wanted to point out that the Chicago River flows away from Lake Michigan, not into it (feat of engineering early last century!). Also, we are not the murder capital of the world .... we are generally not even in the top 10 or 20 cities for murder rate in the US, depending on the list you look at. Just wanted to mention that! He was in a pretty safe, touristy area, though I know that doesn't mean he couldn't have met with foul play, and that seems like the most likely scenario, unfortunately, based on what I heard about him. Anyways, I hope this is eventually solved so his family can get some closure.

  • Emily

    Emily Vancouver, WA

    As someone who started at UMKC in 2007, I just wanted to let you all know that that university is mainly a commuter campus. They have a lot of older people or locals who go there, and it is actually very rare/unheard of for someone who lives even in the surrounding suburbs (I had friends who lived 30/40 minutes away who would drive in) to live on campus. If his dad was dropping him off it would be because he was living at home, and parking there in 2006/2007 was a total nightmare. And you would not want to have your car at the old university center for that many days as it isn't a secure lot.

    As someone who started at UMKC in 2007, I just wanted to let you all know that that university is mainly a commuter campus. They have a lot of older people or locals who go there, and it is actually very rare/unheard of for someone who lives even in the surrounding suburbs (I had friends who lived 30/40 minutes away who would drive in) to live on campus.

    If his dad was dropping him off it would be because he was living at home, and parking there in 2006/2007 was a total nightmare. And you would not want to have your car at the old university center for that many days as it isn't a secure lot.

  • Mike Yatsco

    Mike Yatsco Ohio

    Hi Captain and Nick. I enjoy your guy's show I think you two are the best true crime podcast out of the ones I listen too. Good chemistry and informative and professionally produced. Good job. One comment I will make though is as a fan I like this type of episode. Another example of an episode I like is Joey Labute. I think these are cases that need press and attention and also still have some mystery and unanswered questions. For me cases like Casey Anthony, Madeleine McCann or serial Killers like John Wayne Gacy and Ted Bundy have been covered by mainstream media so much there isn't much left to say about those cases. Maybe some listeners aren't quite as big true crime fans as me and they don't know about these cases, but generally most crime fans have read or listened to a million things about those cases. I know as a podcast two things that are needed are sponsors and listeners and I realize Casey Anthony and Gacy and Tupac try more listeners and sponsors than some random kid disappearing after a night out in Columbus. So with that said I get why the mainstream cases need covered to pay the bills but my personal faves are the lesser known cases. Anyway just my two cents keep up the good work and you guys are fun to listen to each week.

    Hi Captain and Nick. I enjoy your guy's show I think you two are the best true crime podcast out of the ones I listen too. Good chemistry and informative and professionally produced. Good job. One comment I will make though is as a fan I like this type of episode. Another example of an episode I like is Joey Labute. I think these are cases that need press and attention and also still have some mystery and unanswered questions. For me cases like Casey Anthony, Madeleine McCann or serial Killers like John Wayne Gacy and Ted Bundy have been covered by mainstream media so much there isn't much left to say about those cases. Maybe some listeners aren't quite as big true crime fans as me and they don't know about these cases, but generally most crime fans have read or listened to a million things about those cases. I know as a podcast two things that are needed are sponsors and listeners and I realize Casey Anthony and Gacy and Tupac try more listeners and sponsors than some random kid disappearing after a night out in Columbus. So with that said I get why the mainstream cases need covered to pay the bills but my personal faves are the lesser known cases. Anyway just my two cents keep up the good work and you guys are fun to listen to each week.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Mike - you're going to love next week. We are covering a case I know you have never heard of. Lots of weird stuff in there too. We try to do a good balance of lesser known and well known. We have covered a lot of better known cases lately so we will be looking to cover a lot of lesser known cases late this year. Cheers, Nic

    Mike - you're going to love next week. We are covering a case I know you have never heard of. Lots of weird stuff in there too.
    We try to do a good balance of lesser known and well known. We have covered a lot of better known cases lately so we will be looking to cover a lot of lesser known cases late this year.
    Cheers,
    Nic

  • Bridget

    Bridget Missouri

    Hey Guys, I've been a TCG fan for a while now. I was just able to finish both parts of the Jesse Ross case and I can't help but wonder if this poor kid was abducted and sold into some sex trafficking ring. I know, it's pretty far fetched to even think that far, but the more I think about it the more I feel tell myself it makes sense. I'm curious if the thought has crossed either of your minds? Thank you for your extensive research and powerful way of true crime story telling!

    Hey Guys,
    I've been a TCG fan for a while now. I was just able to finish both parts of the Jesse Ross case and I can't help but wonder if this poor kid was abducted and sold into some sex trafficking ring. I know, it's pretty far fetched to even think that far, but the more I think about it the more I feel tell myself it makes sense. I'm curious if the thought has crossed either of your minds?

    Thank you for your extensive research and powerful way of true crime story telling!

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Bridget - sure did of course in this day that is always a concern. I'm starting to believe something happened t Maim in the hotel that night. I'm thinking during the break he went to go meet someone or party in someone's room and something happened. Unfortunately I think someone managed to get him out of that hotel concealed after he passed away. Nic

    Bridget - sure did of course in this day that is always a concern. I'm starting to believe something happened t Maim in the hotel that night. I'm thinking during the break he went to go meet someone or party in someone's room and something happened. Unfortunately I think someone managed to get him out of that hotel concealed after he passed away.
    Nic

  • Mark

    Mark Austin

    This one is quite a mystery, but one thing keeps coming back that dismisses so many possibilities, no body discovered. If he had been mugged or killed in the hotel, you would have had a body. Moreover, no pings on cell phone or credit card use, if he was mugged, those are grabbed. For both to go silent, in a place that would kill cell signal, water. Attacked by homeless person and shoved in river? 2:30 on a freezing night? Nope, homeless people are sleeping one off in a warm place. The man had a gatorade bottle at 2 in the morning. It was obviously alcohol or an attempt to stay hydrated because he was already drunk. He went outside to probably urinate or just because he was smashed. Probably slipped and fell into river. Not a lot of facts to go on, but that seems plausible. Feel awful for family. I also believe holding a meeting at that time was ludicrous!

    This one is quite a mystery, but one thing keeps coming back that dismisses so many possibilities, no body discovered. If he had been mugged or killed in the hotel, you would have had a body. Moreover, no pings on cell phone or credit card use, if he was mugged, those are grabbed. For both to go silent, in a place that would kill cell signal, water. Attacked by homeless person and shoved in river? 2:30 on a freezing night? Nope, homeless people are sleeping one off in a warm place. The man had a gatorade bottle at 2 in the morning. It was obviously alcohol or an attempt to stay hydrated because he was already drunk. He went outside to probably urinate or just because he was smashed. Probably slipped and fell into river. Not a lot of facts to go on, but that seems plausible. Feel awful for family. I also believe holding a meeting at that time was ludicrous!

  • Chugger

    Chugger Cheltenham , England

    Great show ...just wanted to ask why some people are so sure Jesse Ross left the hotel ? ... A hotel of this size would have security cameras on all entrance / exists but all they can provide is an inconclusive picture of Jesse walking past a lift somewhere in the hotel . The only picture I can find states ' C-30 Lobby ELvr 7th' on the time stamp ... I have tried to match this to the floor plan I have of the Grand Sheraton but can't get it to correlate with any doors exiting the building .Can anyone help ?

    Great show ...just wanted to ask why some people are so sure Jesse Ross left the hotel ? ... A hotel of this size would have security cameras on all entrance / exists but all they can provide is an inconclusive picture of Jesse walking past a lift somewhere in the hotel . The only picture I can find states ' C-30 Lobby ELvr 7th' on the time stamp ... I have tried to match this to the floor plan I have of the Grand Sheraton but can't get it to correlate with any doors exiting the building .Can anyone help ?

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    That's where my heads at now as well Chugger. I can't remember if we brought that up in the show or not but he may have been killed some where in the hotel and moved later. I hope they find something on this soon! It's been too long. Nic

    That's where my heads at now as well Chugger. I can't remember if we brought that up in the show or not but he may have been killed some where in the hotel and moved later.
    I hope they find something on this soon!
    It's been too long.
    Nic

  • Jessica

    Jessica Chicago

    Hi guys! Living in Chicago, this case interested me. I recently came across a Chicago government website for identifying found bodies in Cook County. I found it pretty interesting, they have details on where and when the body was found, what they were wearing and some even have pictures or sketches of the people they found. It however is fairly new and doesn’t go back to Jesse’s time. But I thought this was very cool to do, and this should be incorporated in all states it would surely help people search for missing people if there was a national database like this. Anyway, keep up the good work guys! Jessica

    Hi guys! Living in Chicago, this case interested me. I recently came across a Chicago government website for identifying found bodies in Cook County. I found it pretty interesting, they have details on where and when the body was found, what they were wearing and some even have pictures or sketches of the people they found. It however is fairly new and doesn’t go back to Jesse’s time. But I thought this was very cool to do, and this should be incorporated in all states it would surely help people search for missing people if there was a national database like this.
    Anyway, keep up the good work guys!

    Jessica

  • Crimegirl47

    Crimegirl47 NY

    This may sound terrible, but something about the demeanor of Jesse Ross’ brother on a TV interview struck me as odd. Was he ever questioned as to his whereabouts on the night question? Jesse seem like a smart kid on the road to success. Could there have been any jealousy there?

    This may sound terrible, but something about the demeanor of Jesse Ross’ brother on a TV interview struck me as odd. Was he ever questioned as to his whereabouts on the night question? Jesse seem like a smart kid on the road to success. Could there have been any jealousy there?

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Interesting... I have never seen that presented before. I do know the family was looked at, not because they had cause to but just because they are the family. I do also know that his family has been extremely active in the search for him. I hope they find him soon. Cheers Nic

    Interesting... I have never seen that presented before. I do know the family was looked at, not because they had cause to but just because they are the family. I do also know that his family has been extremely active in the search for him. I hope they find him soon.
    Cheers Nic

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