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  • Missy

    Missy TN

    I would like to know about the lividity in her body at the time she was found. The photo makes her skin appear pretty normal, not much discoloration... To set lividity takes 6 to 8 hours, right? What was the condition of her hyoid bone? I HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO THIS (because of the creepy factor)- but what does low-height hanging do to the neck & face? I would imagine there should be discoloration, swelling, puffiness if the blood flow was restricted at the neck... It's reported she was in full rigor? That takes about 8 hours (depending on temperatures)- is that correct? Just hmmmmm.

    I would like to know about the lividity in her body at the time she was found. The photo makes her skin appear pretty normal, not much discoloration... To set lividity takes 6 to 8 hours, right?

    What was the condition of her hyoid bone?

    I HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO THIS (because of the creepy factor)- but what does low-height hanging do to the neck & face? I would imagine there should be discoloration, swelling, puffiness if the blood flow was restricted at the neck...

    It's reported she was in full rigor? That takes about 8 hours (depending on temperatures)- is that correct?

    Just hmmmmm.

  • Carrie Medlin

    Carrie Medlin

    One thing that came to my mind is that she was used to send a message to Jesse.. it was a delivery.. to his mailbox...

    One thing that came to my mind is that she was used to send a message to Jesse.. it was a delivery.. to his mailbox...

  • Lynn

    Lynn Nd

    Her skin looks too good- her arm should be mottled. She look like she’s recently placed there.

    Her skin looks too good- her arm should be mottled. She look like she’s recently placed there.

  • Tyna

    Tyna SC

    If you look at the picture you can see where her left hand is and that gives you an idea of how her arm is pushed up against the post. Maybe the indentation could be weeds or grass. But that looks more like a shoe print to me. Either way I doubt it is wood grain going that direction.

    If you look at the picture you can see where her left hand is and that gives you an idea of how her arm is pushed up against the post. Maybe the indentation could be weeds or grass. But that looks more like a shoe print to me. Either way I doubt it is wood grain going that direction.

  • Jessica

    Jessica Mississippi

    *no I’m not kidding about my name and location. My name really is Jessica and I really do live in Mississippi. I live in Jackson, though. Another thing I have in common with Jessica besides name and location is that I am a drug addict as well. God willing, I will have 11 years of sobriety on March 3. I’ll never understand why some of us survive and others don’t. I guess that’s not for me to decide. I LOVE this podcast, and I love you guys Nick & Captain! But, I have to speak up on this topic. I’ve noticed it in several other episodes as well, but I guess now is a good time to share. There are a lot of stereotypes and misunderstandings of addicts & addiction that are perpetuated by the show. We’re not morons, nor are we stupid- in fact, addicts have some of the highest IQs out there. We’re not evil or awful or intrinsically bad or immoral. We’re sick. Addiction will drive good people with good morals and a good heart to do irrational and sometimes unforgivable things. Don’t misunderstand me here- I’m NOT excusing any behavior of addicts. I’ve done plenty of things I regret, as have most of us - addict or not. I don’t want to be controversial or call anyone out or put anyone down. Stereotypes are rampant and stem from ignorance about a person or persons. All I want to do is give a voice to those of us who no longer have one. I’ve lost way too many friends to addiction. My dad died when he was 36 years old because of all the damage he had done to his body. I’ve had a best friend die from a heroin overdose, more than one friend die of suicide, numerous families torn apart, and my cousin will spend most of the rest of his life in prison for something he did while high on crystal meth in an attempt to get more crystal meth. He and my dad would have given you the shirt off their backs until they were ravaged by the disease of addiction. The solution to ignorance is education, so I want to give some recommended reading for anyone interested in learning more about addiction and why we do the things we do. The first is the book “Alcoholics Anonymous” also called “the big book”. This will give stories and experiences of alcoholics/addicts (same thing different name) and their families to help put things in perspective. It’s an easy read. The second is a more difficult read, but it’s incredibly educational and all based in empirical scientific research. It’s called RecoveryMind Training: A Neuroscientific Approach to Treating Addiction by Paul H. Earley, MD DFASAM. I encourage anyone with a lack of understanding of the disease of addiction to read one or both of these books. Addiction is not at all an issue of morals- it’s an ugly and deadly disease- the only disease that will ever tell you that you don’t have the disease. It turns completely irrational things (that are obviously irrational to everyone around them) into the only rational option available. It’s a parasite that invades the host organism and uses it to its own advantage until it’s host is dead. It’s sad and devastating and heartbreaking. But we are in no way intrinsically bad or immoral people. We aren’t stupid or moronic. We are just like YOU- but unfortunate enough to suffer from the most emotionally painful, desperate and hopeless disease there is. I hope that helped someone learn something new. If not, that’s ok too. Thanks for taking the time to read this 🖤

    *no I’m not kidding about my name and location. My name really is Jessica and I really do live in Mississippi. I live in Jackson, though.
    Another thing I have in common with Jessica besides name and location is that I am a drug addict as well. God willing, I will have 11 years of sobriety on March 3. I’ll never understand why some of us survive and others don’t. I guess that’s not for me to decide.
    I LOVE this podcast, and I love you guys Nick & Captain! But, I have to speak up on this topic. I’ve noticed it in several other episodes as well, but I guess now is a good time to share.
    There are a lot of stereotypes and misunderstandings of addicts & addiction that are perpetuated by the show. We’re not morons, nor are we stupid- in fact, addicts have some of the highest IQs out there. We’re not evil or awful or intrinsically bad or immoral. We’re sick. Addiction will drive good people with good morals and a good heart to do irrational and sometimes unforgivable things. Don’t misunderstand me here- I’m NOT excusing any behavior of addicts. I’ve done plenty of things I regret, as have most of us - addict or not.
    I don’t want to be controversial or call anyone out or put anyone down. Stereotypes are rampant and stem from ignorance about a person or persons. All I want to do is give a voice to those of us who no longer have one. I’ve lost way too many friends to addiction. My dad died when he was 36 years old because of all the damage he had done to his body. I’ve had a best friend die from a heroin overdose, more than one friend die of suicide, numerous families torn apart, and my cousin will spend most of the rest of his life in prison for something he did while high on crystal meth in an attempt to get more crystal meth. He and my dad would have given you the shirt off their backs until they were ravaged by the disease of addiction.
    The solution to ignorance is education, so I want to give some recommended reading for anyone interested in learning more about addiction and why we do the things we do. The first is the book “Alcoholics Anonymous” also called “the big book”. This will give stories and experiences of alcoholics/addicts (same thing different name) and their families to help put things in perspective. It’s an easy read. The second is a more difficult read, but it’s incredibly educational and all based in empirical scientific research. It’s called RecoveryMind Training: A Neuroscientific Approach to Treating Addiction by Paul H. Earley, MD DFASAM.
    I encourage anyone with a lack of understanding of the disease of addiction to read one or both of these books. Addiction is not at all an issue of morals- it’s an ugly and deadly disease- the only disease that will ever tell you that you don’t have the disease. It turns completely irrational things (that are obviously irrational to everyone around them) into the only rational option available. It’s a parasite that invades the host organism and uses it to its own advantage until it’s host is dead. It’s sad and devastating and heartbreaking. But we are in no way intrinsically bad or immoral people. We aren’t stupid or moronic. We are just like YOU- but unfortunate enough to suffer from the most emotionally painful, desperate and hopeless disease there is.

    I hope that helped someone learn something new. If not, that’s ok too.

    Thanks for taking the time to read this 🖤

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Thank you Jessica for opening up and sharing. Rarely do I feel the need to apologize however I do here. I'm only one half of the show obviously so I'll just speak from my half. I don't think persons with an addiction are any less smart or bad people and if I came off that way - my apologies. Also a big we like your jib to you - 11 years is fantastic- you should be very proud of yourself, I am. Thanks again and have a great weekend! Nic

    Thank you Jessica for opening up and sharing. Rarely do I feel the need to apologize however I do here. I'm only one half of the show obviously so I'll just speak from my half. I don't think persons with an addiction are any less smart or bad people and if I came off that way - my apologies. Also a big we like your jib to you - 11 years is fantastic- you should be very proud of yourself, I am.
    Thanks again and have a great weekend!
    Nic

  • Amy

    Amy Nj

    No way can someone put her like that in full rigor. So if her boyfriend is saying oh she must have been there right before she was found. Can’t be. You couldn’t do that to a body in rigor

    No way can someone put her like that in full rigor. So if her boyfriend is saying oh she must have been there right before she was found. Can’t be. You couldn’t do that to a body in rigor

  • Megan

    Megan Wisconsin

    Stupid question...but since she would have had to walk barefoot from the house to the mailbox in order to hang herself, wouldn't the soles of her feet give some indication to this? I know that even walking from my door across the driveway my feet pick up bits of dirt and rock...and growing up in the country your feet showed it any time you walked barefoot.

    Stupid question...but since she would have had to walk barefoot from the house to the mailbox in order to hang herself, wouldn't the soles of her feet give some indication to this? I know that even walking from my door across the driveway my feet pick up bits of dirt and rock...and growing up in the country your feet showed it any time you walked barefoot.

  • Blue Meath

    Blue Meath

    Do you have a link to an uncensored photo of the crime scene? I'm trying to follow along while you guys are talking about the photo evidence, but it's difficult when I can't see the whole picture. I've googled myself silly with no luck.

    Do you have a link to an uncensored photo of the crime scene? I'm trying to follow along while you guys are talking about the photo evidence, but it's difficult when I can't see the whole picture. I've googled myself silly with no luck.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    https://co-a1.azureedge.net/co-uploa...7/08/dims.jpeg There's a few different versions of this out there. The only ones I have seen have been censored. I found one where its just the eyes that are blurred out but can't find it online at the moment. We were working off of the eyes only blurred out photo. Neither of us could / nor did we want to find one that was completely uncensored. - Nic

    https://co-a1.azureedge.net/co-uploa...7/08/dims.jpeg
    There's a few different versions of this out there. The only ones I have seen have been censored. I found one where its just the eyes that are blurred out but can't find it online at the moment. We were working off of the eyes only blurred out photo. Neither of us could / nor did we want to find one that was completely uncensored.
    - Nic

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    GOOD question Megan - There may not have been obvious evidence if she walked primarily in the grass but the driveway appears to be mostly if not all gravel. If she walked on the gravel driveway there would have been obvious signs. If there were not any indications that she walked bare foot for some time then again you have to go with this is a suspicious death and there for an investigation is necessary. Cheers Nic

    GOOD question Megan - There may not have been obvious evidence if she walked primarily in the grass but the driveway appears to be mostly if not all gravel. If she walked on the gravel driveway there would have been obvious signs. If there were not any indications that she walked bare foot for some time then again you have to go with this is a suspicious death and there for an investigation is necessary.
    Cheers Nic

  • Tony

    Tony Toronto

    censoring comments?

    censoring comments?

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    No Tony we rarely censor comments - we do if they are offensive to others but no. If your comment was not posted it could be from a glitch on our website. Please post your comment. Thanks for checking the blog - Nic

    No Tony we rarely censor comments - we do if they are offensive to others but no. If your comment was not posted it could be from a glitch on our website. Please post your comment.
    Thanks for checking the blog - Nic

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous Texas

    Do you have to approve the comments before they post?

    Do you have to approve the comments before they post?

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Yes but we approve a very high percentage. As you can see even comments that are negative to us and the show get posted. We only do not approve of a comment if it is very offensive or way out of bounds. The website is not perfect and for whatever reason on rare occasions a comment will get lost. Cheers Nic

    Yes but we approve a very high percentage. As you can see even comments that are negative to us and the show get posted. We only do not approve of a comment if it is very offensive or way out of bounds. The website is not perfect and for whatever reason on rare occasions a comment will get lost.
    Cheers Nic

  • Julie

    Julie Chicago

    Here’s what I think....I think something went wrong - don’t know if it was a drug deal or an overdose but whoever she was with, carried her to the mailbox and placed her there. Tied the shoelace around her neck to make it look like a suicide. Keep up the good work guys!

    Here’s what I think....I think something went wrong - don’t know if it was a drug deal or an overdose but whoever she was with, carried her to the mailbox and placed her there. Tied the shoelace around her neck to make it look like a suicide.

    Keep up the good work guys!

  • Elise

    Elise Oklahoma

    I guess my comment got lost, so I'll try again! Has anyone yet looked at any connections she had with officers in the Police Dept? It is a very small, rural town and a lot of people don't get out; she didn't . The Departments in areas like that also usually survive, numbers wise, through nepotism and she probably graduated with a few of the officers that oversaw her case. Drugs also don't discriminate. If an officer had a problem- would you want to go through the sketchy guys SHE dealt with, or- she was also a middle man, get drugs from her instead. She was also a gorgeous girl, she had to of broken some hearts back in high school and not even known about it. One of those guys could now be an officer and not in any drug related relationship, but- perhaps got angry, saw an opportunity, maybe it was even an innocent interaction that went awry, during the 6 hours she was MIA . I understand some people in the town might have felt, "she was on drugs, not paying attention to her children enough, good riddance", whatever. But the extent of which the evidence was destroyed and the autopsy was even a wash- that makes me feel like something was lazily covered up. "Oops - we burned all of her clothes covered in evidence (that probably weren't even her clothes). 'Oops we have no idea where her shoes or the shoelaces - (the supposed murder/suicide weapon) are. 'We're not smart enough to get on her phone and no you can't have it either". Too many things were shrugged off. Maybe an officer or officer's son was involved and the easiest way to get rid of evidence is not to look at it at all. The previous time i tried to comment, it was worded much more eloquently- you get the gist :) Cheers guys, keep up the good work.

    I guess my comment got lost, so I'll try again!

    Has anyone yet looked at any connections she had with officers in the Police Dept? It is a very small, rural town and a lot of people don't get out; she didn't . The Departments in areas like that also usually survive, numbers wise, through nepotism and she probably graduated with a few of the officers that oversaw her case. Drugs also don't discriminate. If an officer had a problem- would you want to go through the sketchy guys SHE dealt with, or- she was also a middle man, get drugs from her instead. She was also a gorgeous girl, she had to of broken some hearts back in high school and not even known about it. One of those guys could now be an officer and not in any drug related relationship, but- perhaps got angry, saw an opportunity, maybe it was even an innocent interaction that went awry, during the 6 hours she was MIA . I understand some people in the town might have felt, "she was on drugs, not paying attention to her children enough, good riddance", whatever. But the extent of which the evidence was destroyed and the autopsy was even a wash- that makes me feel like something was lazily covered up. "Oops - we burned all of her clothes covered in evidence (that probably weren't even her clothes). 'Oops we have no idea where her shoes or the shoelaces - (the supposed murder/suicide weapon) are. 'We're not smart enough to get on her phone and no you can't have it either". Too many things were shrugged off. Maybe an officer or officer's son was involved and the easiest way to get rid of evidence is not to look at it at all.
    The previous time i tried to comment, it was worded much more eloquently- you get the gist smile
    Cheers guys, keep up the good work.

  • Snarky  grumpkin

    Snarky grumpkin

    So I tried posting my theory twice and still nothing gets posted...

    So I tried posting my theory twice and still nothing gets posted...

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Snarky - I’ve not seen your post to approve them. For some reason they have not come through. Please try again. Cheers Nic

    Snarky - I’ve not seen your post to approve them. For some reason they have not come through. Please try again.
    Cheers Nic

  • mG

    mG tX

    Her life was a tragedy. She was addicted to drugs. Suicide occurs frequently when these factors are present. I see nothing to indicate murder. I think the sitting position allowed her to lean forward and put more pressure on the rope. Because she was sitting on her feet, she would not be able to lean back, her backside would be elevated, she will die in that position. Pretty girl dies, tragedy/mystery. Ugly girl dies....

    Her life was a tragedy. She was addicted to drugs. Suicide occurs frequently when these factors are present. I see nothing to indicate murder. I think the sitting position allowed her to lean forward and put more pressure on the rope. Because she was sitting on her feet, she would not be able to lean back, her backside would be elevated, she will die in that position. Pretty girl dies, tragedy/mystery. Ugly girl dies....

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