Jodi Huisentruit /// 208 /// 209

33 comments

  • Ben

    Ben Iowa

    Hey guys, I'm so glad you guys are doing this case. I'm also a little freaked out, because litey just now, I was in my kitchen talking to my wife about how you guys should do this case. And I went to your website to message you and recommend you do it, and saw you were doing it. I don't know how this happened! Either way, I'm stoked to hear it!!

    Hey guys,

    I'm so glad you guys are doing this case. I'm also a little freaked out, because litey just now, I was in my kitchen talking to my wife about how you guys should do this case. And I went to your website to message you and recommend you do it, and saw you were doing it. I don't know how this happened! Either way, I'm stoked to hear it!!

  • Emily

    Emily Mason City, Iowa

    I'm a relatively recent fan of your podcast and was so glad to see that you have covered this case. I grew up in Mason City and have looked into the case several times. You guys presented facts -like the toilet seat-that I had never encountered before. As someone who has personally met Amy - I completely reject the idea that she could've been involved in Jodi's abduction/murder. I have thought for sometime that this case deserved a podcast - thank you for covering it. Jodi has been gone for many years, but she has not been forgotten by the Mason City community. Every time I go by the Key Apartments I wonder what happened to her and where she is now. I hope this podcast sparks someone's interest and maybe even bring Jodi's family closure.

    I'm a relatively recent fan of your podcast and was so glad to see that you have covered this case. I grew up in Mason City and have looked into the case several times. You guys presented facts -like the toilet seat-that I had never encountered before. As someone who has personally met Amy - I completely reject the idea that she could've been involved in Jodi's abduction/murder. I have thought for sometime that this case deserved a podcast - thank you for covering it. Jodi has been gone for many years, but she has not been forgotten by the Mason City community. Every time I go by the Key Apartments I wonder what happened to her and where she is now. I hope this podcast sparks someone's interest and maybe even bring Jodi's family closure.

  • Louise H

    Louise H Michigan

    Great job on this one guys. I've followed this case for a long time and really don't have a strong feeling about what went down. On the surface, Vansice does look like a good suspect, but why would he need to grab her in the parking lot. Since he had a friendship with her he could have attacked and disposed of her in a much less risky manner because she would have gone off alone with him - to his home, on his boat, and so on. Right in front of her apartment? I'm slightly leaning to an unknown stalker who waited for her.

    Great job on this one guys. I've followed this case for a long time and really don't have a strong feeling about what went down. On the surface, Vansice does look like a good suspect, but why would he need to grab her in the parking lot. Since he had a friendship with her he could have attacked and disposed of her in a much less risky manner because she would have gone off alone with him - to his home, on his boat, and so on. Right in front of her apartment? I'm slightly leaning to an unknown stalker who waited for her.

  • Whitney

    Whitney Arkansas

    So here's a possibility on the briefcase: If Jodi was carrying it when she was attacked at her car, she might have used it to attempt to defend herself. The perpetrator might have taken it because he (I'm assuming it was a man) was worried about fingerprints or other evidence that might have been left on the briefcase.

    So here's a possibility on the briefcase: If Jodi was carrying it when she was attacked at her car, she might have used it to attempt to defend herself. The perpetrator might have taken it because he (I'm assuming it was a man) was worried about fingerprints or other evidence that might have been left on the briefcase.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Good thought Whitney! Nic

    Good thought Whitney!
    Nic

  • LIsa

    LIsa Iowa

    So, just listened and here is where i land. I agree with Captain, I think there was another man at her apartment that night. She may have stopped to watch the birthday video and then headed home to meet this other man. Perhaps the reason no one else knew about this other man is that he was married. So, John gets worked up with either suspicion that she is with another man or maybe she even told him she had someone coming over. Goes to her house, beats on the door and says, "Jodi, open up I know you are in there". Maybe her and the other man don't answer the door in hopes that he will go away. Instead John gets very upset and waits for her in the parking lot. She gets the phone call at 4:10, other man leaves as she is leaving, John approaches her in the parking lot, she rejects him saying, "I'm late for work, I gotta go"and a struggle ensues. He gets her in his vehicle and takes her somewhere else where the perhaps in a fit of rage, he accidentally kills her. The reason the other man has never came forward?? He's married. Obviously, pure speculation. Thanks for doing such a great job on the podcast!!

    So, just listened and here is where i land. I agree with Captain, I think there was another man at her apartment that night. She may have stopped to watch the birthday video and then headed home to meet this other man. Perhaps the reason no one else knew about this other man is that he was married. So, John gets worked up with either suspicion that she is with another man or maybe she even told him she had someone coming over. Goes to her house, beats on the door and says, "Jodi, open up I know you are in there". Maybe her and the other man don't answer the door in hopes that he will go away. Instead John gets very upset and waits for her in the parking lot. She gets the phone call at 4:10, other man leaves as she is leaving, John approaches her in the parking lot, she rejects him saying, "I'm late for work, I gotta go"and a struggle ensues. He gets her in his vehicle and takes her somewhere else where the perhaps in a fit of rage, he accidentally kills her. The reason the other man has never came forward?? He's married.

    Obviously, pure speculation.

    Thanks for doing such a great job on the podcast!!

  • Becky

    Becky Big Sur

    I was JUST about to suggest this case! I was a teenager living in Mason City when this happened and it has never left my mind.

    I was JUST about to suggest this case! I was a teenager living in Mason City when this happened and it has never left my mind.

  • Kay

    Kay St.louis

    June 14th 1969 Dennis Martin case you guys should look into it conspiracy possibly and missing child case looks pretty interesting would love to hear your thoughts

    June 14th 1969 Dennis Martin case you guys should look into it conspiracy possibly and missing child case looks pretty interesting would love to hear your thoughts

  • Leslie

    Leslie Philadelphia

    Hard to listen to this one but great job! As a female it's difficult to imagine her alive in a basement or even worse dead, not sure which is preferred in this abductIon. It chills my blood to know there are people out there capable and wanting to do this..That's my take away with this episode. Wish it could be solved because it's terrifying.

    Hard to listen to this one but great job! As a female it's difficult to imagine her alive in a basement or even worse dead, not sure which is preferred in this abductIon. It chills my blood to know there are people out there capable and wanting to do this..That's my take away with this episode. Wish it could be solved because it's terrifying.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Thank you all for the kind words. I think this case gets solved before the end of 2018. At Kay - Dennis Martin is on the short list. We will cover that one soon. Cheers all! Nic

    Thank you all for the kind words. I think this case gets solved before the end of 2018. At Kay - Dennis Martin is on the short list. We will cover that one soon.
    Cheers all!
    Nic

  • Barbara B.

    Barbara B.

    So excited that you are covering this case!

    So excited that you are covering this case!

  • Fred

    Fred Cmh

    Fat Julian!!!!

    Fat Julian!!!!

  • Rich

    Rich AZ

    Errr, the reason you may get blowback about psychics is that there is no such thing as being psychic. If a police force ever used a psychic regarding something involving me, I’d blow a gasket. It would be tantamount to walking in a wizard who finds the answer in a box of corn flakes. Seriously, magic should not be a legitimate police tool. Polygraphs are real things that measure actual things. They just don’t give definitive “lie” results. Because people don’t understand this, they don’t allow them in most courts. Sorry to be so negative! Just a pet peeve. Please, carry on.

    Errr, the reason you may get blowback about psychics is that there is no such thing as being psychic. If a police force ever used a psychic regarding something involving me, I’d blow a gasket. It would be tantamount to walking in a wizard who finds the answer in a box of corn flakes. Seriously, magic should not be a legitimate police tool. Polygraphs are real things that measure actual things. They just don’t give definitive “lie” results. Because people don’t understand this, they don’t allow them in most courts.

    Sorry to be so negative! Just a pet peeve. Please, carry on.

  • Rachael

    Rachael Parts Unknown

    This case has always intrigued me. As I was listening, a thought, probably ridiculous, but you never know, came to me. Were any of her neighbors' apartments searched? I could see someone becoming obsessed with the local celebrity, who is also their neighbor. It would make it relatively easy for them to stalk her and easy for them to be ready to attack no matter what time she left for work. The whole abduction would've been fairly easy for a neighbor to pull off. Anyway, I'm sure it was looked into. Love your podcast, keep up the great work!

    This case has always intrigued me. As I was listening, a thought, probably ridiculous, but you never know, came to me. Were any of her neighbors' apartments searched? I could see someone becoming obsessed with the local celebrity, who is also their neighbor. It would make it relatively easy for them to stalk her and easy for them to be ready to attack no matter what time she left for work. The whole abduction would've been fairly easy for a neighbor to pull off. Anyway, I'm sure it was looked into. Love your podcast, keep up the great work!

  • Megan

    Megan Pittsburgh

    My first thought with the bent key is that if she’s on edge about being followed or stalked, which it seems that she was, maybe that’s why she purposefully didn’t use the keyless entry to her car. The theory from The Mall Murders episode that entry into the SUV was by the keyless entry. If I’m in a place alone and feeling high-alert about my surroundings I will not use my keyless entry but instead open only my door and lock it immediately after I’m seated in my car.

    My first thought with the bent key is that if she’s on edge about being followed or stalked, which it seems that she was, maybe that’s why she purposefully didn’t use the keyless entry to her car. The theory from The Mall Murders episode that entry into the SUV was by the keyless entry. If I’m in a place alone and feeling high-alert about my surroundings I will not use my keyless entry but instead open only my door and lock it immediately after I’m seated in my car.

  • PainterChick

    PainterChick Parts Unknown

    I have never heard of this one before. I go back and forth on the relationship with John. He may have been interested in her, but then again she could have been the daughter he never had? (or did he have a daughter? I only see that he had two kids and was divorced sometime in the early 90's)I agree that it seems like a weird place to attack her if it were John. Then again if he knew of her previous stalkers, what a great way to throw off the scent. Was John's son ever looked at? I can think of several scenarios if he was involved...He was jealous of his Dad's relationship with her, the two of them did hit it off and John didn't like that, was he the guy at the apartment that night? I'd be very curious to know more about the son and his movements. This all goes back to the Captain's comment in BTK...surveillance people, get your sh!t together and make sure it is quality! (we're sick of lack of answers because of poor quality video)

    I have never heard of this one before.
    I go back and forth on the relationship with John. He may have been interested in her, but then again she could have been the daughter he never had? (or did he have a daughter? I only see that he had two kids and was divorced sometime in the early 90's)I agree that it seems like a weird place to attack her if it were John. Then again if he knew of her previous stalkers, what a great way to throw off the scent.
    Was John's son ever looked at? I can think of several scenarios if he was involved...He was jealous of his Dad's relationship with her, the two of them did hit it off and John didn't like that, was he the guy at the apartment that night? I'd be very curious to know more about the son and his movements.
    This all goes back to the Captain's comment in BTK...surveillance people, get your sh!t together and make sure it is quality! (we're sick of lack of answers because of poor quality video)

  • Ty

    Ty Jackson

    Theory on the bent key: she tried to use it to fight off her attacker, like they always used to teach people to do in self defense classes. Against a determined attacker, you would have to get in a very lucky shot with a key to do yourself any good, I think; it's more likely that you would bend the key and piss someone off even worse, especially since we're talking about one of those skinny Mazda keys. Maybe that fits with the personal items scattered all over the place, since they indicate a struggle. As for the briefcase, I'd like to know if was a tote or messenger style case. If so, she might have had a long strap and was wearing it cross-body, so maybe it just naturally stayed on her and went with her into whatever kind of vehicle she was forced into (as opposed to being something that was deliberately taken).

    Theory on the bent key: she tried to use it to fight off her attacker, like they always used to teach people to do in self defense classes. Against a determined attacker, you would have to get in a very lucky shot with a key to do yourself any good, I think; it's more likely that you would bend the key and piss someone off even worse, especially since we're talking about one of those skinny Mazda keys. Maybe that fits with the personal items scattered all over the place, since they indicate a struggle. As for the briefcase, I'd like to know if was a tote or messenger style case. If so, she might have had a long strap and was wearing it cross-body, so maybe it just naturally stayed on her and went with her into whatever kind of vehicle she was forced into (as opposed to being something that was deliberately taken).

  • Andrea Hatfield

    Andrea Hatfield Sylvan Lake, Canada

    Ok. This was one of my favs. Question (yes, I’ve already consulted google and no luck): I feel like you or someone on the blog can help me get a stitcher podcast to an iTunes playlist... is this possible? I listen to TCG while I run long distances. Saving up for an Apple Watch but until then, listen to an old school shuffle which is compatible only with iTunes.... Help... need to get older episodes onto my old school device.

    Ok. This was one of my favs. Question (yes, I’ve already consulted google and no luck): I feel like you or someone on the blog can help me get a stitcher podcast to an iTunes playlist... is this possible? I listen to TCG while I run long distances. Saving up for an Apple Watch but until then, listen to an old school shuffle which is compatible only with iTunes.... Help... need to get older episodes onto my old school device.

  • Melissa

    Melissa Boston

    I love your insight but sometimes you needs a female’s spin. If she shouted a name while being abducted, it is also very likely that she was trying to make her attacker think she was calling to someone in the apartment in the hopes it would scare the attacker off. A woman being attacked will want the attacker to think there is someone, usually a male, close by that will come intervene.

    I love your insight but sometimes you needs a female’s spin. If she shouted a name while being abducted, it is also very likely that she was trying to make her attacker think she was calling to someone in the apartment in the hopes it would scare the attacker off. A woman being attacked will want the attacker to think there is someone, usually a male, close by that will come intervene.

  • Jessica

    Jessica Seattle

    Did they ever do DNA testing on the beer cans? Seems like a straight forward way to find out if a man was there and who was that night... I was thinking that maybe she had spent the night with an unknown male and when witnesses say she was shouting a name in the parking lot, I thought she might be calling out for help to the unknown man who was still in her apartment... Very interesting and mysterious case. I hope the truth is revealed

    Did they ever do DNA testing on the beer cans? Seems like a straight forward way to find out if a man was there and who was that night...
    I was thinking that maybe she had spent the night with an unknown male and when witnesses say she was shouting a name in the parking lot, I thought she might be calling out for help to the unknown man who was still in her apartment... Very interesting and mysterious case. I hope the truth is revealed

  • Krystal

    Krystal Akron OH

    As always, great podcast. Suggestion of the Morgan Nick abduction case!

    As always, great podcast.
    Suggestion of the Morgan Nick abduction case!

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Andrea - I don't think that is possible. Someone jump in if I'm wrong. Nic

    Andrea - I don't think that is possible. Someone jump in if I'm wrong.
    Nic

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    At Jessica, I have a strong suspicion that they may not have been collected. If that's the case then no, not tested. Nic

    At Jessica,
    I have a strong suspicion that they may not have been collected. If that's the case then no, not tested.
    Nic

  • kel

    kel memphis

    yall should do the madeleine mccann case

    yall should do the madeleine mccann case

  • Crystal

    Crystal Michigan

    When I was listening to the piece about the key, it reminded me of my first new car (late 90s) with a fab. If you put the key in the door key hole to unlock, it triggered the car’s alarm and the car would not start. I couldn’t help but wonder if this vehicle was the same way and maybe she was trying to set off the alarm.

    When I was listening to the piece about the key, it reminded me of my first new car (late 90s) with a fab. If you put the key in the door key hole to unlock, it triggered the car’s alarm and the car would not start. I couldn’t help but wonder if this vehicle was the same way and maybe she was trying to set off the alarm.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Hi Mel, We covered Madeleine's last summer, check it out on the Stitcher app for free. Cheers Nic

    Hi Mel,
    We covered Madeleine's last summer, check it out on the Stitcher app for free.
    Cheers Nic

  • Barbara B.

    Barbara B.

    John naming his boat after her is super creepy. Coming from a female POV, that would really give me the creeps. Wanting recognition that he threw the party (the way it was worded on the invitation sounds like when a parent hosts their child's wedding), talking a lot to the cops and family after she disappeared makes me think he wanted to be a big part of her life and wanted everyone to know this. I get a vibe that he was obsessed with her. Did he kill her, I don't know. But he is definitely a good suspect. I wonder if the son was ever interviewed. Despite this and the speculation of a stalker, I almost think this could have been a crime of opportunity. This has been a good year for old crimes being resolved, let's hope this one does too. Great job as always.

    John naming his boat after her is super creepy. Coming from a female POV, that would really give me the creeps. Wanting recognition that he threw the party (the way it was worded on the invitation sounds like when a parent hosts their child's wedding), talking a lot to the cops and family after she disappeared makes me think he wanted to be a big part of her life and wanted everyone to know this. I get a vibe that he was obsessed with her. Did he kill her, I don't know. But he is definitely a good suspect.
    I wonder if the son was ever interviewed.
    Despite this and the speculation of a stalker, I almost think this could have been a crime of opportunity.
    This has been a good year for old crimes being resolved, let's hope this one does too.

    Great job as always.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Thanks Barbara B! They need to find her remains. I think those GPS search warrants on those two vehicles could lead to that. If that's true that likely means someone has been visiting where they put her or moving the remains. Nic

    Thanks Barbara B!
    They need to find her remains. I think those GPS search warrants on those two vehicles could lead to that. If that's true that likely means someone has been visiting where they put her or moving the remains.
    Nic

  • Mark

    Mark TX

    I am pretty sure that a stalker made his final delusional move and kidnapped and murdered her. Have to believe that this same stalker had reached out to her via correspondence in the past. I just wonder how many weirdos someone like this would have, probably more than a few. I think the case has gone pretty cold and you are not looking at an advanced investigation unit. Got to think the apartment and beer cans were dusted for prints, so if they got nothing they could use, no evidence was inside the apartment, meaning he grabbed her outside the apartment as she was heading for work. I just hope this nut has not moved on to his next victim. Good show.

    I am pretty sure that a stalker made his final delusional move and kidnapped and murdered her. Have to believe that this same stalker had reached out to her via correspondence in the past. I just wonder how many weirdos someone like this would have, probably more than a few. I think the case has gone pretty cold and you are not looking at an advanced investigation unit. Got to think the apartment and beer cans were dusted for prints, so if they got nothing they could use, no evidence was inside the apartment, meaning he grabbed her outside the apartment as she was heading for work. I just hope this nut has not moved on to his next victim. Good show.

  • Indrid

    Indrid USA

    I think this story needs a Part III & perhaps IV. I'm stunned you didn't mention that her weatherman co-worker, Don Harman, committed suicide in 2011. According to KC Confidential (unsure if it's a reputable source, but the news is out there in other places, as well), he was questioned about Jodi's abduction 1-wk prior to his suicide, coincidentally, at the same time they re-opened her case. That's huge news. His wife said he suffered with depression. Since when? 1995, after Jodi's disappearance? All his life? On occasion? Many of us do, but the vast majority of us don't kill ourselves due to it. He also can be seen on YTube vids, reporting the weather, multiple times, on the day he died. He seems fine, giving no impression of a distraught man who is about to kill himself. Was he questioned after that report, being told the case was re-opened? http://www.kcconfidential.com/2011/12/07/today-the-truth-nothing-but-the-truth-about-the-don-harman-reporting/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYEzpt4MdZ8 ************************ And, from Wikipedia (sources listed on the site), 1 article giving a new twist: "In December 2016, retiring Iowa State Representative John Kooiker of Sioux County, Iowa, described his experience with the case as a member of the Iowa State House Public Safety Committee and suggested a cover-up by Mason City officials. His opinion piece was published in The N'West Iowa Review. In March 2018, a search warrant was executed against person of interest John Vansice seeking GPS data for two of his vehicles." ********************* No blood at the scene (suggesting she wasn't beaten or hit on the head, but instead hustled into a vehicle), a struggle where the contents of her purse are spilled & a scream suggest to me that there was only 1 abductor, who she likely recognized, as 2 or more surely could have easily over-powered her. Perhaps Don or John, or someone else she knew, approached her & easily got close enough to attempt to sedate her prior to abduction, by either an injection or chloroform. An older man, John or slightly out of shape, portly man, Don, might have fumbled, hence the struggle & scream. The palm print could have been from the abductor being thrown back into the car & reaching out for leverage, as he didn't expect a struggle (because he knew her & assumed he could get close without raising her suspicion) or to be honest, it's more than likely nothing, as if parking in any lot outside an apt complex or stores, strangers may leave prints on the car when in tighter spaces, as they lean on the car. Who around her owned a van, or rented one that week, or had friends who owned one, similar to the one the witness spotted peeling out of the driveway sans headlights being on? Dan? John? Dan could have easily gotten her into the van by stating he came to pick her up after her female co-worker called & woke her. Jodi's scream could have come after he seated her in the passenger side of the car & helped her with her seat belt (thus, trapping her), then grabbed her purse, tossed the contents to the ground (to leave "evidence" that a stranger abducted her), right before incapacitating her in some way (hitting her in the head, injection, chloroform). And, of course John wanted a sexual relationship with her. No man, regardless of age, throws a b'day party & names his bloody boat after a girl he isn't in love with and/or lusting after. He's stupid in thinking a beautiful, 27-yr old would want him for him & perhaps was rejected when making advances (the b'day party being a grand gesture). Her ambition being cited so many times, perhaps she thought this elder businessman could provide networking for future jobs or story sources for her. That old adage, h*ll hath no fury like a woman scorned is only transference, as the vast majority of rapes, beatings & murders are men against women, not vice versa... so h*ll hath no fury like a man scorned. All of the above could be coincidence, but, a follow-up is surely needed. What of the police coverup, suggested by the Representative above? Is the coverup for mistakes made way back in the 90s or is there an officer who may have been interested in her (perhaps one of those who escorted her on a few occasions, when she felt threatened), who is being protected? As an aside, were there any officers let go during the time she moved into the new community & took her job at the TV station? Patton Oswald's deceased wife, who is responsible for finding the Golden State Killer after all these decades, said the majority of serial rapist/killers are men who were security guard/police officer rejects or those who were fired. Which officers were around her at that time? GPS info from John on 2 vehicles revealed what? The co-worker suicide? Melissa in Boston, who left a comment above, is on the right track. As a woman who has been the target of creepy maintenance men or older, creepy neighbors in my apt complex, necessitating a move on several occasions (has anyone looked into this angle?) & stalkers on a couple of occasions, I get the creepiest feeling with the suicidal co-worker. Old John is a creep, flaunting his $$$ to attract a girl way beyond being a realistic partner. I'm not famous & I've experienced the same. But, I'm unsure that old man could physically abduct a healthy, 27-yr old girl, even if she were just woken & tired. But, the co-worker, who she trusted, or a Drew Peterson-type officer, who she'd also trust, in her midst... those would be my first POI. The officer may have been following her to scare her in order to make her call the police for protection... how unbelievably creepy & a story I also heard from a neighbor a decade ago. There's something not quite right here in regard to investigating. Please do a follow-up.

    I think this story needs a Part III & perhaps IV. I'm stunned you didn't mention that her weatherman co-worker, Don Harman, committed suicide in 2011. According to KC Confidential (unsure if it's a reputable source, but the news is out there in other places, as well), he was questioned about Jodi's abduction 1-wk prior to his suicide, coincidentally, at the same time they re-opened her case. That's huge news.

    His wife said he suffered with depression. Since when? 1995, after Jodi's disappearance? All his life? On occasion? Many of us do, but the vast majority of us don't kill ourselves due to it. He also can be seen on YTube vids, reporting the weather, multiple times, on the day he died. He seems fine, giving no impression of a distraught man who is about to kill himself. Was he questioned after that report, being told the case was re-opened?
    http://www.kcconfidential.com/2011/12/07/today-the-truth-nothing-but-the-truth-about-the-don-harman-reporting/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYEzpt4MdZ8

    ************************
    And, from Wikipedia (sources listed on the site), 1 article giving a new twist:

    "In December 2016, retiring Iowa State Representative John Kooiker of Sioux County, Iowa, described his experience with the case as a member of the Iowa State House Public Safety Committee and suggested a cover-up by Mason City officials. His opinion piece was published in The N'West Iowa Review.

    In March 2018, a search warrant was executed against person of interest John Vansice seeking GPS data for two of his vehicles."
    *********************

    No blood at the scene (suggesting she wasn't beaten or hit on the head, but instead hustled into a vehicle), a struggle where the contents of her purse are spilled & a scream suggest to me that there was only 1 abductor, who she likely recognized, as 2 or more surely could have easily over-powered her. Perhaps Don or John, or someone else she knew, approached her & easily got close enough to attempt to sedate her prior to abduction, by either an injection or chloroform. An older man, John or slightly out of shape, portly man, Don, might have fumbled, hence the struggle & scream.

    The palm print could have been from the abductor being thrown back into the car & reaching out for leverage, as he didn't expect a struggle (because he knew her & assumed he could get close without raising her suspicion) or to be honest, it's more than likely nothing, as if parking in any lot outside an apt complex or stores, strangers may leave prints on the car when in tighter spaces, as they lean on the car.

    Who around her owned a van, or rented one that week, or had friends who owned one, similar to the one the witness spotted peeling out of the driveway sans headlights being on? Dan? John? Dan could have easily gotten her into the van by stating he came to pick her up after her female co-worker called & woke her. Jodi's scream could have come after he seated her in the passenger side of the car & helped her with her seat belt (thus, trapping her), then grabbed her purse, tossed the contents to the ground (to leave "evidence" that a stranger abducted her), right before incapacitating her in some way (hitting her in the head, injection, chloroform).

    And, of course John wanted a sexual relationship with her. No man, regardless of age, throws a b'day party & names his bloody boat after a girl he isn't in love with and/or lusting after. He's stupid in thinking a beautiful, 27-yr old would want him for him & perhaps was rejected when making advances (the b'day party being a grand gesture). Her ambition being cited so many times, perhaps she thought this elder businessman could provide networking for future jobs or story sources for her.

    That old adage, h*ll hath no fury like a woman scorned is only transference, as the vast majority of rapes, beatings & murders are men against women, not vice versa... so h*ll hath no fury like a man scorned.

    All of the above could be coincidence, but, a follow-up is surely needed. What of the police coverup, suggested by the Representative above? Is the coverup for mistakes made way back in the 90s or is there an officer who may have been interested in her (perhaps one of those who escorted her on a few occasions, when she felt threatened), who is being protected? As an aside, were there any officers let go during the time she moved into the new community & took her job at the TV station? Patton Oswald's deceased wife, who is responsible for finding the Golden State Killer after all these decades, said the majority of serial rapist/killers are men who were security guard/police officer rejects or those who were fired. Which officers were around her at that time?

    GPS info from John on 2 vehicles revealed what? The co-worker suicide? Melissa in Boston, who left a comment above, is on the right track. As a woman who has been the target of creepy maintenance men or older, creepy neighbors in my apt complex, necessitating a move on several occasions (has anyone looked into this angle?) & stalkers on a couple of occasions, I get the creepiest feeling with the suicidal co-worker. Old John is a creep, flaunting his $$$ to attract a girl way beyond being a realistic partner. I'm not famous & I've experienced the same. But, I'm unsure that old man could physically abduct a healthy, 27-yr old girl, even if she were just woken & tired. But, the co-worker, who she trusted, or a Drew Peterson-type officer, who she'd also trust, in her midst... those would be my first POI. The officer may have been following her to scare her in order to make her call the police for protection... how unbelievably creepy & a story I also heard from a neighbor a decade ago.

    There's something not quite right here in regard to investigating. Please do a follow-up.

  • Jennifer

    Jennifer Denver

    Not that it's related but who knows. In 2002 Jennifer Servo, a local news reporter in the town that I was living in at the time was found strangled in her apartment. It's an unsolved cold case. A former boyfriend was considered as a suspect, as was a current boyfriend but no real evidence to go on, just the connection to her. She was also young, beautiful, on television, new to town. Similar in age to Jodi. Even similar looking, one might argue.

    Not that it's related but who knows.
    In 2002 Jennifer Servo, a local news reporter in the town that I was living in at the time was found strangled in her apartment. It's an unsolved cold case. A former boyfriend was considered as a suspect, as was a current boyfriend but no real evidence to go on, just the connection to her. She was also young, beautiful, on television, new to town. Similar in age to Jodi. Even similar looking, one might argue.

  • Matthewzd

    Matthewzd

    This is the first time I've listened to your show and I like your "two buddies talking over beers" style. A few months ago I heard another podcast cover Jodi’s disappearance and have fallen into the rabbit hole of unanswered questions this mystery raises. Y'all did great research and there were one or two things that were new to me, but you were off the mark on Billy Pruin. Billy was a local farmer and a friend of Jodi’s who was found dead from a gunshot wound a few months before Jodi was abducted. His death was initially ruled a suicide, but was later deemed undetermined cause of death. He had no powder residue on his hands and the entry wound was in his back. Short of some Rube Goldberg device, how does that happen? IIRC the gun was a .44 magnum. Also there is this incident that happened in the months before Billy died. One night he, Jodi, and others were at a bar socializing, and he and Jodi start dancing. John Vansice goes over to them saying something like Jodi’s his girl yadda yadda macho crap possibly alcohol fueled. Exactly what words were exchanged (or punches were thrown) is unsure. No, Jodi wasn't a "hard hitting journalist". She was more like Corky Sherwood than Murphy Brown. Still, I think she would feel some obligation to her friend to look into his death and get some answers. If Billy was involved in drugs in any way, that would be something I've never heard in anything I've read about this case.

    This is the first time I've listened to your show and I like your "two buddies talking over beers" style. A few months ago I heard another podcast cover Jodi’s disappearance and have fallen into the rabbit hole of unanswered questions this mystery raises.

    Y'all did great research and there were one or two things that were new to me, but you were off the mark on Billy Pruin. Billy was a local farmer and a friend of Jodi’s who was found dead from a gunshot wound a few months before Jodi was abducted. His death was initially ruled a suicide, but was later deemed undetermined cause of death. He had no powder residue on his hands and the entry wound was in his back. Short of some Rube Goldberg device, how does that happen? IIRC the gun was a .44 magnum.

    Also there is this incident that happened in the months before Billy died. One night he, Jodi, and others were at a bar socializing, and he and Jodi start dancing. John Vansice goes over to them saying something like Jodi’s his girl yadda yadda macho crap possibly alcohol fueled. Exactly what words were exchanged (or punches were thrown) is unsure.

    No, Jodi wasn't a "hard hitting journalist". She was more like Corky Sherwood than Murphy Brown. Still, I think she would feel some obligation to her friend to look into his death and get some answers.

    If Billy was involved in drugs in any way, that would be something I've never heard in anything I've read about this case.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Thank you Matthewzd... Interesting stuff and thank you for the correction. Johnny V, another scenario that he exhibits strange behavior. TCG

    Thank you Matthewzd...
    Interesting stuff and thank you for the correction. Johnny V, another scenario that he exhibits strange behavior.
    TCG

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