JonBenet Ramsey ////// Little Miss Christmas

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  • Tracey

    Tracey UK

    Oh no I thought you weren't going to touch this one. It's been done to death

    Oh no I thought you weren't going to touch this one. It's been done to death

  • Emily

    Emily Tennessee

    Haven't listened yet, but looking forward to hearing your theories on the case! This case and the Delphi murders are two cases that i would love to see solved. So much evidence but still no answers. These little girls deserve justice!!

    Haven't listened yet, but looking forward to hearing your theories on the case! This case and the Delphi murders are two cases that i would love to see solved. So much evidence but still no answers. These little girls deserve justice!!

  • Amy

    Amy KCMO

    "they should get in their douche canoe and paddle down vanity river" LOL i know thats right Captain!!!

    "they should get in their douche canoe and paddle down vanity river" LOL i know thats right Captain!!!

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Correction! I believe I said breast cancer... Patsy was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. Apologies - Nic

    Correction! I believe I said breast cancer... Patsy was diagnosed with ovarian cancer.
    Apologies - Nic

  • René

    René The Shoe

    I have a question and I'm not sure that it's been mentioned before, but did Burke elude ask between the 911 call and finding Jon Benet that there was a chance she could've been alive? Maybe staying "optimistic" or doubting that the worst case could've happened? I am curious about his reaction in that amount of time.

    I have a question and I'm not sure that it's been mentioned before, but did Burke elude ask between the 911 call and finding Jon Benet that there was a chance she could've been alive? Maybe staying "optimistic" or doubting that the worst case could've happened? I am curious about his reaction in that amount of time.

  • Danielle

    Danielle Illinois

    I've been patiently (sorta lol) waiting on these episodes to start, ever since you discussed on Off The Record. Thank you. The first episode was great setting up the background. I remember seeing the tabloids at the supermarket when I was a kid...wandering about this pretty, blonde girl all dressed up. I am the same age that Jon Benet would have been today if this terrible crime never happened. Just awful and sad. Who would she be today if she had the chance?

    I've been patiently (sorta lol) waiting on these episodes to start, ever since you discussed on Off The Record. Thank you. The first episode was great setting up the background. I remember seeing the tabloids at the supermarket when I was a kid...wandering about this pretty, blonde girl all dressed up. I am the same age that Jon Benet would have been today if this terrible crime never happened. Just awful and sad. Who would she be today if she had the chance?

  • Jenni

    Jenni KY

    How are there only 4 comments???

    How are there only 4 comments???

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Rene - sorry I'll try to answer your question. The Ramsey's have always maintained that Burke slept through the night and then they woke him up at 7am and sent him to a friend's house at 7:13am. If that is true he would have not have seen, heard or knew of anything going on. It's not easy to believe that and we will get to that in more detail soon. Cheers Nic

    Rene - sorry I'll try to answer your question. The Ramsey's have always maintained that Burke slept through the night and then they woke him up at 7am and sent him to a friend's house at 7:13am. If that is true he would have not have seen, heard or knew of anything going on. It's not easy to believe that and we will get to that in more detail soon.
    Cheers Nic

  • Barbara Resnick

    Barbara Resnick Seattle

    Check out the blog Solving Jonbenet from Doc G. It has a very definitive solutiong that cuts through a lot of the bs.

    Check out the blog Solving Jonbenet from Doc G. It has a very definitive solutiong that cuts through a lot of the bs.

  • Johnson

    Johnson Australia

    Barbara Resnick, so what’s this very definitive solution? Anyway, I’ve never found the parents particularly suspicious. Those who think they are, a) seem dead sure of it, too much so, instead of being merely suspicious or following the evidence, which would increase their credibility, they state it’s the parents based on flimsy evidence. and, b) demonstrate total tunnel vision on the matter. Then the handwriting: it is *not* a perfect match for Patsy, something like 1/9 experts said “perfect match!” (And she’s the one who goes on all the tv shows and news sites), 3/9 said it wasn’t a match and 5/9 said was similar but not definitive. Most of the suspicion comes from the “it’s *usually* the parents in these types of cases, therefore it *must* be the parents in this case” utterly illogical argument. As well as the useless original ‘detective’ who likes to think she has some super-intuition, seeing things only she can see that no one else can because she’s so darn smart, and therefore she can tell from the dad’s “cordiality” that therefore, well, he must be guilty. The one other thing people say is “why would the murderer waste time writing a long note?” Fair point but why the hell would Patsy waste time writing a long note in her own handwriting instead of 2 lines?? That makes even *less* sense. Chances are it was a loopy pedophile nutter who likes to ramble and felt that writing a long note would throw people off. These people don’t always have loads of grey matter in their skulls. As for the idea the son is on the 911 call, I agree he may well be and this story by the parents doesn’t make sense. But whatever weird reason they made that bit up (if they did) means they are a bit quirky and off beat, not murderers. We’ve all seen enough cases to know that this could be anything.

    Barbara Resnick, so what’s this very definitive solution?

    Anyway, I’ve never found the parents particularly suspicious. Those who think they are, a) seem dead sure of it, too much so, instead of being merely suspicious or following the evidence, which would increase their credibility, they state it’s the parents based on flimsy evidence. and, b) demonstrate total tunnel vision on the matter.

    Then the handwriting: it is *not* a perfect match for Patsy, something like 1/9 experts said “perfect match!” (And she’s the one who goes on all the tv shows and news sites), 3/9 said it wasn’t a match and 5/9 said was similar but not definitive.

    Most of the suspicion comes from the “it’s *usually* the parents in these types of cases, therefore it *must* be the parents in this case” utterly illogical argument. As well as the useless original ‘detective’ who likes to think she has some super-intuition, seeing things only she can see that no one else can because she’s so darn smart, and therefore she can tell from the dad’s “cordiality” that therefore, well, he must be guilty.

    The one other thing people say is “why would the murderer waste time writing a long note?” Fair point but why the hell would Patsy waste time writing a long note in her own handwriting instead of 2 lines?? That makes even *less* sense.

    Chances are it was a loopy pedophile nutter who likes to ramble and felt that writing a long note would throw people off. These people don’t always have loads of grey matter in their skulls.

    As for the idea the son is on the 911 call, I agree he may well be and this story by the parents doesn’t make sense. But whatever weird reason they made that bit up (if they did) means they are a bit quirky and off beat, not murderers. We’ve all seen enough cases to know that this could be anything.

  • Todd

    Todd Aus

    I need the intro as my ringtone!!

    I need the intro as my ringtone!!

  • Rachel

    Rachel Ohio

    I will never be able to get over Patsy’s reaction to what happened. If I think my child is gone, no one has to tell me to call 911. I’m doing that first. Maybe second, after I run to the rooms of my other children and wake them up frantically to keep them right by me until I figure out what’s going on and if there is still any danger. Also, I’m not gonna analyze her voice on the call because I didn’t know her personally. However, I will say that the distress in her voice sounds real. But that doesn’t mean the distress is because she doesn’t know what happened. You can know what happened, know what you have to do to stick with a plan, and still have a surge of emotions carrying out the plan, especially when it becomes “real” by involving outside parties. It’s like “okay we’re going live in 3,2,1” and then the stress hits. Obviously I think Burke did it lol Anxious to hear the rest of the series! Great job yet again guys!

    I will never be able to get over Patsy’s reaction to what happened. If I think my child is gone, no one has to tell me to call 911. I’m doing that first. Maybe second, after I run to the rooms of my other children and wake them up frantically to keep them right by me until I figure out what’s going on and if there is still any danger. Also, I’m not gonna analyze her voice on the call because I didn’t know her personally. However, I will say that the distress in her voice sounds real. But that doesn’t mean the distress is because she doesn’t know what happened. You can know what happened, know what you have to do to stick with a plan, and still have a surge of emotions carrying out the plan, especially when it becomes “real” by involving outside parties. It’s like “okay we’re going live in 3,2,1” and then the stress hits. Obviously I think Burke did it lol Anxious to hear the rest of the series! Great job yet again guys!

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