Kurt Cobain ////// 33 

Kurt Cobain ////// 33 

Put on the plaid shirts, ripped up jeans and get out your chain wallet! Everyone knows all of the best bands get their start in the garage well tonight we go to the garage to discuss the death of one rocks biggest legends Kurt Cobain. Rumors have stirred for years about the icon's suicide and if it really was a well covered up murder. 

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7 comments

  • Great podcast as usual

    Great podcast as usual

  • SB

    SB

    I finally got around to watching this and found the documentary to be very fascinating. I always believed that Cobain probably killed himself, and my gut tells me that is still probably the most likely explanation. However, I was compelled by some of the evidence in the film. First, Courtney's behavior raises many red-flags, and she appears to have purposely mislead the media and planted information that suggested suicide was something Cobain obsessed about. I could totally see this changing the way first responders looked at that initial crime scene. I also think the animation showing the trajectory of the shell casing was compelling, although I would like to see several experts weigh in on that piece of information. Finally, it could be possible that Courtney found one of Kurt's generic written works, and then added the more impactful "good-bye" lines to it, in order to make the letter look like a suicide note. At the end of the day, the P.I. in this case said that he approaches cases logically and looks at things rationally. However, almost everyone involved in this case were drug addicts, liars, and essentially high out of their mind. Therefore, he shouldn't be shocked when Courtney starts to create drama in the media and says the things she said. A person as incapacitated as Love appeared to be in the documentary shouldn't be expected to respond to his questions "logically." You should expect scatter-brained statements, cryptic messages, and emotional reactions to very small things. This is called drug addiction, not necessarily conspiratorial behavior. The simpler explanation is that Curt Cobain, although a happy youth in many people's memory, was deeply addicted to a controlled substance. One major side-effect of drugs is depression, especially when one is in the early days of rehab, as Kurt was. It is foreseeable to me that his marriage was broken, he was woefully addicted to drugs, he knew he couldn't be the father he wanted to be, and just recently purchased a shot gun...Everything coalesced in him leaving rehab, taking a heavy amount of heroin and then shooting himself. At the end of the movie, I was hoping the P.I. was going to give us his thoughts on how Cobain was murdered and by who, that was left totally open ended, and that was a bit disappointing. I guess it was implied the "Cali" guy could have done it, but that would be asking a lot of a druggie. I don't see him pulling off the perfect murder.

    I finally got around to watching this and found the documentary to be very fascinating. I always believed that Cobain probably killed himself, and my gut tells me that is still probably the most likely explanation. However, I was compelled by some of the evidence in the film.

    First, Courtney's behavior raises many red-flags, and she appears to have purposely mislead the media and planted information that suggested suicide was something Cobain obsessed about. I could totally see this changing the way first responders looked at that initial crime scene. I also think the animation showing the trajectory of the shell casing was compelling, although I would like to see several experts weigh in on that piece of information. Finally, it could be possible that Courtney found one of Kurt's generic written works, and then added the more impactful "good-bye" lines to it, in order to make the letter look like a suicide note.

    At the end of the day, the P.I. in this case said that he approaches cases logically and looks at things rationally. However, almost everyone involved in this case were drug addicts, liars, and essentially high out of their mind. Therefore, he shouldn't be shocked when Courtney starts to create drama in the media and says the things she said. A person as incapacitated as Love appeared to be in the documentary shouldn't be expected to respond to his questions "logically." You should expect scatter-brained statements, cryptic messages, and emotional reactions to very small things. This is called drug addiction, not necessarily conspiratorial behavior.

    The simpler explanation is that Curt Cobain, although a happy youth in many people's memory, was deeply addicted to a controlled substance. One major side-effect of drugs is depression, especially when one is in the early days of rehab, as Kurt was. It is foreseeable to me that his marriage was broken, he was woefully addicted to drugs, he knew he couldn't be the father he wanted to be, and just recently purchased a shot gun...Everything coalesced in him leaving rehab, taking a heavy amount of heroin and then shooting himself.

    At the end of the movie, I was hoping the P.I. was going to give us his thoughts on how Cobain was murdered and by who, that was left totally open ended, and that was a bit disappointing. I guess it was implied the "Cali" guy could have done it, but that would be asking a lot of a druggie. I don't see him pulling off the perfect murder.

  • SB

    SB

    [quote=SB] I finally got around to watching the documentary and found it to be very fascinating. I always believed that Cobain probably killed himself, and my gut tells me that is still probably the most likely explanation. However, I was compelled by some of the evidence in the film. First, Courtney's behavior raises many red-flags, and she appears to have purposely mislead the media and planted information that suggested suicide was something Cobain obsessed about. I could totally see this changing the way first responders looked at that initial crime scene. I also think the animation showing the trajectory of the shell casing was compelling, although I would like to see several experts weigh in on that piece of information. Finally, it could be possible that Courtney found one of Kurt's generic written works, and then added the more impactful "good-bye" lines to it, in order to make the letter look like a suicide note. At the end of the day, the P.I. in this case said that he approaches cases logically and looks at things rationally. However, almost everyone involved in this case were drug addicts, liars, and essentially high out of their mind. Therefore, he shouldn't be shocked when Courtney starts to create drama in the media and says the things she said. A person as incapacitated as Love appeared to be in the documentary shouldn't be expected to respond to his questions "logically." You should expect scatter-brained statements, cryptic messages, and emotional reactions to very small things. This is called drug addiction, not necessarily conspiratorial behavior. The simpler explanation is that Curt Cobain, although a happy youth in many people's memory, was deeply addicted to a controlled substance. One major side-effect of drugs is depression, especially when one is in the early days of rehab, as Kurt was. It is foreseeable to me that his marriage was broken, he was woefully addicted to drugs, he knew he couldn't be the father he wanted to be, and just recently purchased a shot gun...Everything coalesced in him leaving rehab, taking a heavy amount of heroin and then shooting himself. At the end of the movie, I was hoping the P.I. was going to give us his thoughts on how Cobain was murdered and by who, that was left totally open ended, and that was a bit disappointing. I guess it was implied the "Cali" guy could have done it, but that would be asking a lot of a druggie. I don't see him pulling off the perfect murder. [/quote]

    SB wrote:

    I finally got around to watching the documentary and found it to be very fascinating. I always believed that Cobain probably killed himself, and my gut tells me that is still probably the most likely explanation. However, I was compelled by some of the evidence in the film.

    First, Courtney's behavior raises many red-flags, and she appears to have purposely mislead the media and planted information that suggested suicide was something Cobain obsessed about. I could totally see this changing the way first responders looked at that initial crime scene. I also think the animation showing the trajectory of the shell casing was compelling, although I would like to see several experts weigh in on that piece of information. Finally, it could be possible that Courtney found one of Kurt's generic written works, and then added the more impactful "good-bye" lines to it, in order to make the letter look like a suicide note.

    At the end of the day, the P.I. in this case said that he approaches cases logically and looks at things rationally. However, almost everyone involved in this case were drug addicts, liars, and essentially high out of their mind. Therefore, he shouldn't be shocked when Courtney starts to create drama in the media and says the things she said. A person as incapacitated as Love appeared to be in the documentary shouldn't be expected to respond to his questions "logically." You should expect scatter-brained statements, cryptic messages, and emotional reactions to very small things. This is called drug addiction, not necessarily conspiratorial behavior.

    The simpler explanation is that Curt Cobain, although a happy youth in many people's memory, was deeply addicted to a controlled substance. One major side-effect of drugs is depression, especially when one is in the early days of rehab, as Kurt was. It is foreseeable to me that his marriage was broken, he was woefully addicted to drugs, he knew he couldn't be the father he wanted to be, and just recently purchased a shot gun...Everything coalesced in him leaving rehab, taking a heavy amount of heroin and then shooting himself.

    At the end of the movie, I was hoping the P.I. was going to give us his thoughts on how Cobain was murdered and by who, that was left totally open ended, and that was a bit disappointing. I guess it was implied the "Cali" guy could have done it, but that would be asking a lot of a druggie. I don't see him pulling off the perfect murder.

  • Jamie

    Jamie Pennsylvania

    You never addressed the fact that experts say he had too much heroin in his system to have been able to actually use the gun, or the forensic aspects of the position the gun ended up in. This is one of the main points Tom Grant has always hung on.

    You never addressed the fact that experts say he had too much heroin in his system to have been able to actually use the gun, or the forensic aspects of the position the gun ended up in. This is one of the main points Tom Grant has always hung on.

  • Jamie

    Jamie

    Ok so i didn't get to the end of the podcast before previously commenting. The heroin amount and the gun forensics are definitely the big things here no doubt. Hopefully one day they will reopen it. There's no doubt that Courtney is a narcissist who would do anything to achieve what she wanted. Bottom line.

    Ok so i didn't get to the end of the podcast before previously commenting. The heroin amount and the gun forensics are definitely the big things here no doubt. Hopefully one day they will reopen it. There's no doubt that Courtney is a narcissist who would do anything to achieve what she wanted. Bottom line.

  • Kassie

    Kassie

    I never considered that he died from anything other than suicide but I have listened to this podcast and another re possible murder and now I'm leaning in that direction. Mostly because of the amount of heroin in his system but there are other reasons.

    I never considered that he died from anything other than suicide but I have listened to this podcast and another re possible murder and now I'm leaning in that direction. Mostly because of the amount of heroin in his system but there are other reasons.

  • Blaire

    Blaire East Coast

    That detail you added about him jumping over the back fence rather than walking out the UNLOCKED front door is GOLDEN

    That detail you added about him jumping over the back fence rather than walking out the UNLOCKED front door is GOLDEN

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