Luka Magnotta /// 122 /// 123

33 comments

  • Danick

    Danick ON

    Next episode try a great Canadian brewery called Beau's from Vankleek Hill Ontario , about an hour away from Luka's apartment.

    Next episode try a great Canadian brewery called Beau's from Vankleek Hill Ontario , about an hour away from Luka's apartment.

  • Daisy

    Daisy Sydney Australia

    Love your work. Could you please give a strong warning before the show if it has references to animal cruelty? This topic is particular awful!

    Love your work. Could you please give a strong warning before the show if it has references to animal cruelty? This topic is particular awful!

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Hi Daisy, We did give a warning however I think I failed to be clear about it. My apologies. Nic

    Hi Daisy,
    We did give a warning however I think I failed to be clear about it. My apologies.
    Nic

  • Kathy K

    Kathy K illinois

    Is it just me or does this douche canoe sound like Ben Stiller in Zoolander?

    Is it just me or does this douche canoe sound like Ben Stiller in Zoolander?

  • nicole poirier

    nicole poirier montrรฉal, qc. canada

    first, sorry for the bad English. do you know guys that mister magnotta got married last week with a jail compagnon at the port-cartier prison. in an interview, he declared that he is very happy, in love and life couldn't be better. to know that makes my day a little less sunny. once again sorry for the broken English and keep up the good work. I love podcast and yours is my favorite. best wishes to both of you. Nicole xxx

    first, sorry for the bad English. do you know guys that mister magnotta got married last week with a jail compagnon at the port-cartier prison. in an interview, he declared that he is very happy, in love and life couldn't be better.
    to know that makes my day a little less sunny.
    once again sorry for the broken English and keep up the good work. I love podcast and yours is my favorite.
    best wishes to both of you. Nicole xxx

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous

    You can watch the 10 mins video still on goregrish.com ice pick one.

    You can watch the 10 mins video still on goregrish.com ice pick one.

  • sofasleuth

    sofasleuth somewhere in Europe

    this case reminds me of the kidnapping (and possibly murder) of yingying zhang who was a visiting student at the university of illinois. the suspect has very similar facial expressions with luka as far as i can guess by pictures and short video clips. very interesting timing for picking this case for the week or just a weird coincidence. i'm excited to hear the second part, keep up the good work.

    this case reminds me of the kidnapping (and possibly murder) of yingying zhang who was a visiting student at the university of illinois. the suspect has very similar facial expressions with luka as far as i can guess by pictures and short video clips. very interesting timing for picking this case for the week or just a weird coincidence. i'm excited to hear the second part, keep up the good work.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Thanks Nicole! I knew he was in the process of marrying someone. As for his happiness and enjoying life. I hope that is a lie. I could see this dirtbag trying to put a nice spin on this. Painting the picture that Luka always wins. In reality he has never won at anything. Luka is pathetic. Very low, very low! Ugly scum! -Nic

    Thanks Nicole! I knew he was in the process of marrying someone. As for his happiness and enjoying life. I hope that is a lie. I could see this dirtbag trying to put a nice spin on this. Painting the picture that Luka always wins. In reality he has never won at anything. Luka is pathetic. Very low, very low! Ugly scum!
    -Nic

  • Reb

    Reb DC

    I love your show- I am your #1 fan! But this episode's subject matter was, in my mind, unfortunate. This guy is a total narcissistic loser and, while you did a splendid job with the material, it has the effect of mythologize someone who didn't do much of "interest" and should just crawl in a hole and never be heard from again.

    I love your show- I am your #1 fan! But this episode's subject matter was, in my mind, unfortunate. This guy is a total narcissistic loser and, while you did a splendid job with the material, it has the effect of mythologize someone who didn't do much of "interest" and should just crawl in a hole and never be heard from again.

  • Sue Bauman

    Sue Bauman Parts Unknown

    I think Luka Magnotta may have benefitted from signing up for TalkSpace. Yikes.

    I think Luka Magnotta may have benefitted from signing up for TalkSpace. Yikes.

  • Beth

    Beth Baltimore

    Who cares about the insanity defense? I always thought that was stupid. People who do this kind of stuff are insane! Normal people don't kill other people! Great episode. Keep up the good work!

    Who cares about the insanity defense? I always thought that was stupid. People who do this kind of stuff are insane! Normal people don't kill other people! Great episode. Keep up the good work!

  • Beth

    Beth Baltimore

    He lived in an apartment? How come no one heard this guy being killed? Doesn't that much blood have an odor?

    He lived in an apartment? How come no one heard this guy being killed? Doesn't that much blood have an odor?

  • Tamara

    Tamara Nova Scotia,Canada

    I remember this well. I'm a true crime all the time kinda girl, Few things scare me. This story did. I remember the contents of those boxes being broadcast on tv. Thinking how disgusting and disturbed the perpetrator must've been. I read they weren't permitted to consumate the marriage.(Although I'm sure there are ways) A small victory I guess. A truly vile human. Love the show, love you guys!

    I remember this well. I'm a true crime all the time kinda girl, Few things scare me. This story did. I remember the contents of those boxes being broadcast on tv. Thinking how disgusting and disturbed the perpetrator must've been. I read they weren't permitted to consumate the marriage.(Although I'm sure there are ways) A small victory I guess. A truly vile human.
    Love the show, love you guys!

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous

    Hi guys, love the show, you somehow manage to mix good fun with a lot of respect for the victims. Good job :-) I actually registered to comment because this guy is one of the most despicable pieces of shit out there in the world of true crime, which says something. I work in forensic mental health over in the UK and when I heard this guy speak I immediately thought "textbook narcissist". He's got that obsessive craving for attention and laughably unfounded but dogged belief in his own greatness covered, disregard and lack of empathy for others - which leads to an incapacity for forming healthy relationships with anyone (I remember hearing it mentioned on this other podcast how he didn't have any real friends or even that much actual human contact aside from auditions etc.), he's manipulative - you name it. He also comes off as terminally boring when he speaks, no wonder he failed so many auditions even for reality shows, which have got to be roundups of tear inducing bores. I guess there is delusional belief involved (what you guys mentioned about how he interviewed himself and answered himself and managed to look credible in that video - he's quite obviously obsessed with the idea of celebrity, but, to be fair, so are a lot of people) and it's a very complex case, but my money is primarily on narcissism. I don't know how it is in Canada, but over here they lump everything as "mental illness", whether it is psychosis, mood disorder or personality disorder (which is where narcissism falls), so you end up with people arguably misusing the diminished capacity defence. Basically some people are ill and act out because of that (psychosis), but when their illness is contained they are a lot less or not at all violent, some people are simply douches and some people are both douches and ill. He's most likely in the last category, but the douchiness is very prominent ;-) Being ignored at school/abused by parents isn't an excuse to do despicable things. In his case, especially, it looks like he worked with a "to do list" of how disgusting you can get. That doesn't sound like something illness-caused based on my experience. Illness tends to cause more random/absurd actions, not such a neat organisation of events, with the obvious and sole goal of promoting himself (it doesn't really come off as if he's getting all that much pleasure from the acts themselves as from people's reaction to them). So yea, no talent piece of shit gets his 15min of fame by killing some kittens and acting out a sort of serial killers' greatest hits on a tragically unsuspecting victim. It's horrible but also pathetic as hell. A bit about your conversation about how the drugs work/re-offending. It's the same in the UK, there is a focus on rehab. Meds sometimes work, sometimes they don't, as with any other illness. Trust me there is a lot of pressure on consultants to not release people who are going to be re-offending. Yet it does happen, you can't tell 100% what someone will do. There is usually a lot of disagreement within the medical team in regards to how ready someone is to return to the community, so it can take a very long time (decades, sometimes) - also because the process isn't smooth, sometimes the patient has a relapse and things go back to square one or there is lack of funds, accommodation doesn't work out for whatever reason etc. There is, I guess, also the case where someone (medical personnel, I mean) might be interested in proving something using a very high profile case when they make a show of how well someone is being rehabilitated. Normally a patient is tried on a variety of drugs for a long time (years) before it is deemed their illness is drug-resistant or not. People whose illness is drug resistant have a much slower path through the system and might never be actually released. At the same time it's very easy to be recalled once you're in the system, even without actually re-offending. It's a really complex field and there is also politics involved. I can kinda see why you'd be thinking (perhaps with some reason) that things are done too flippantly but at least in my experience things are far from it. There are a lot of factors that go into rehabilitation and this post is already long enough to go into that. I just want to mention that by acknowledging their condition, some people do willingly take the meds and do make the effort necessitated by the path to rehabilitation (the motivation may vary, sometimes it is simply the fear of further incarceration). It is possible, at least to some degree. Yet, in my personal opinion (others agree), things get especially complicated when it comes to personality disorders. I don't actually know that these people can be rehabilitated, though everyone is different. My advice to anyone encountering the typical signs is run, don't even think of getting involved. You're not going to save them but you may lose yourself in the process. If you can't avoid being around them, keep as safe a distance as you can. PS: don't be overly impressed when hearing patients in forensic mental health facilities have access to TV/internet/leaves in town. Life on a the ward is still not a picnic. If nothing else, remember your environment is made up of other offenders with their own complex issues. I guess life is better in private facilities but I have no experience with that so I can't comment.

    Hi guys, love the show, you somehow manage to mix good fun with a lot of respect for the victims. Good job :-)

    I actually registered to comment because this guy is one of the most despicable pieces of shit out there in the world of true crime, which says something. I work in forensic mental health over in the UK and when I heard this guy speak I immediately thought "textbook narcissist". He's got that obsessive craving for attention and laughably unfounded but dogged belief in his own greatness covered, disregard and lack of empathy for others - which leads to an incapacity for forming healthy relationships with anyone (I remember hearing it mentioned on this other podcast how he didn't have any real friends or even that much actual human contact aside from auditions etc.), he's manipulative - you name it. He also comes off as terminally boring when he speaks, no wonder he failed so many auditions even for reality shows, which have got to be roundups of tear inducing bores.

    I guess there is delusional belief involved (what you guys mentioned about how he interviewed himself and answered himself and managed to look credible in that video - he's quite obviously obsessed with the idea of celebrity, but, to be fair, so are a lot of people) and it's a very complex case, but my money is primarily on narcissism. I don't know how it is in Canada, but over here they lump everything as "mental illness", whether it is psychosis, mood disorder or personality disorder (which is where narcissism falls), so you end up with people arguably misusing the diminished capacity defence.

    Basically some people are ill and act out because of that (psychosis), but when their illness is contained they are a lot less or not at all violent, some people are simply douches and some people are both douches and ill. He's most likely in the last category, but the douchiness is very prominent ;-) Being ignored at school/abused by parents isn't an excuse to do despicable things. In his case, especially, it looks like he worked with a "to do list" of how disgusting you can get. That doesn't sound like something illness-caused based on my experience. Illness tends to cause more random/absurd actions, not such a neat organisation of events, with the obvious and sole goal of promoting himself (it doesn't really come off as if he's getting all that much pleasure from the acts themselves as from people's reaction to them). So yea, no talent piece of shit gets his 15min of fame by killing some kittens and acting out a sort of serial killers' greatest hits on a tragically unsuspecting victim. It's horrible but also pathetic as hell.

    A bit about your conversation about how the drugs work/re-offending. It's the same in the UK, there is a focus on rehab. Meds sometimes work, sometimes they don't, as with any other illness. Trust me there is a lot of pressure on consultants to not release people who are going to be re-offending. Yet it does happen, you can't tell 100% what someone will do. There is usually a lot of disagreement within the medical team in regards to how ready someone is to return to the community, so it can take a very long time (decades, sometimes) - also because the process isn't smooth, sometimes the patient has a relapse and things go back to square one or there is lack of funds, accommodation doesn't work out for whatever reason etc.

    There is, I guess, also the case where someone (medical personnel, I mean) might be interested in proving something using a very high profile case when they make a show of how well someone is being rehabilitated. Normally a patient is tried on a variety of drugs for a long time (years) before it is deemed their illness is drug-resistant or not. People whose illness is drug resistant have a much slower path through the system and might never be actually released. At the same time it's very easy to be recalled once you're in the system, even without actually re-offending. It's a really complex field and there is also politics involved.

    I can kinda see why you'd be thinking (perhaps with some reason) that things are done too flippantly but at least in my experience things are far from it. There are a lot of factors that go into rehabilitation and this post is already long enough to go into that. I just want to mention that by acknowledging their condition, some people do willingly take the meds and do make the effort necessitated by the path to rehabilitation (the motivation may vary, sometimes it is simply the fear of further incarceration). It is possible, at least to some degree. Yet, in my personal opinion (others agree), things get especially complicated when it comes to personality disorders. I don't actually know that these people can be rehabilitated, though everyone is different. My advice to anyone encountering the typical signs is run, don't even think of getting involved. You're not going to save them but you may lose yourself in the process. If you can't avoid being around them, keep as safe a distance as you can.

    PS: don't be overly impressed when hearing patients in forensic mental health facilities have access to TV/internet/leaves in town. Life on a the ward is still not a picnic. If nothing else, remember your environment is made up of other offenders with their own complex issues. I guess life is better in private facilities but I have no experience with that so I can't comment.

  • Jules

    Jules Minnesota

    I remember Luka's YT videos, from way back in the day, though I never saw anything violent. I do remember thinking he must have some special relationship with the network, because his vids were all over the place, but I guess it turns out it was just Luka, doing a lot of self-promotion via multiple accounts. 99 times out of 100, I can see at least a sliver of good in a person, but with Luka it's hard because he was so awfully disturbed. The Facebook groups that went after him deserve a lot of credit; even though the police told them they couldn't do anything, since they didn't handle crimes involving animal cruelty, they kept after him. Very good episode -- thanks very much!

    I remember Luka's YT videos, from way back in the day, though I never saw anything violent. I do remember thinking he must have some special relationship with the network, because his vids were all over the place, but I guess it turns out it was just Luka, doing a lot of self-promotion via multiple accounts. 99 times out of 100, I can see at least a sliver of good in a person, but with Luka it's hard because he was so awfully disturbed. The Facebook groups that went after him deserve a lot of credit; even though the police told them they couldn't do anything, since they didn't handle crimes involving animal cruelty, they kept after him. Very good episode -- thanks very much!

  • Jillian

    Jillian Alabama

    You mention a blog but I can't find it on your website. Maybe I'm just so excited that I'm overlooking it. Could you be more specific as to where I might find this blog please?

    You mention a blog but I can't find it on your website. Maybe I'm just so excited that I'm overlooking it. Could you be more specific as to where I might find this blog please?

  • Becky O'Rourke

    Becky O'Rourke IL

    He got married in prison. Every little boy's dream. I hate this psycho.

    He got married in prison. Every little boy's dream. I hate this psycho.

  • lawbster

    lawbster dubai

    another great episode. enjoyed hearing from the Godfather of True Crime as well.

    another great episode. enjoyed hearing from the Godfather of True Crime as well.

  • Marie

    Marie New Hampshire

    Sadly videos like "one lunatic one ice pick" take a simple Google search. I feel bad for the victim and his family that the video is only a click away. It's an insult to the value of human life. When I was in elementary school, older kids would try to show me videos like that on their laptops on the school bus. I think technology and it accessibility allows evil people to reach a much wider audience, especially considering the recent murders that were displayed on Facebook live. Anyways, I love the show! If I get a response, I'll probably squeal. Hope you guys keep doing this for a long time to come!

    Sadly videos like "one lunatic one ice pick" take a simple Google search. I feel bad for the victim and his family that the video is only a click away. It's an insult to the value of human life. When I was in elementary school, older kids would try to show me videos like that on their laptops on the school bus. I think technology and it accessibility allows evil people to reach a much wider audience, especially considering the recent murders that were displayed on Facebook live.

    Anyways, I love the show! If I get a response, I'll probably squeal. Hope you guys keep doing this for a long time to come!

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Jillian - you found it! Hi Marie, yeah I'm too old for YouTube in Elementry school, thank God! I'm glad social media didn't exist when I was young.... I said a lot of dumb stuff. Some that I still regret. I'm just glad it wasn't typed somewhere and still available for all to see! Cheers to everyone! Thanks for the nice words. Nic

    Jillian - you found it!

    Hi Marie, yeah I'm too old for YouTube in Elementry school, thank God! I'm glad social media didn't exist when I was young.... I said a lot of dumb stuff. Some that I still regret. I'm just glad it wasn't typed somewhere and still available for all to see!

    Cheers to everyone! Thanks for the nice words.
    Nic

  • Miranda

    Miranda NC

    Wow, I could sit and listen to stories of Dean Corll, or Dahmer, and anyone else with no problem, but I can't listen to the podcast about this guy, I don't know why. There is something about him that genuinely crawls under my skin and gnaws.

    Wow, I could sit and listen to stories of Dean Corll, or Dahmer, and anyone else with no problem, but I can't listen to the podcast about this guy, I don't know why. There is something about him that genuinely crawls under my skin and gnaws.

  • John

    John WI

    I second the comments of Reb. Magnotta is distasteful. I think it's the videos, the recency, the shallowness of it all. He's just not interesting. A non-true crime fan couldn't understand "better or worse killers" but this community can. I could sense the guys fighting to make this case more appealing than it really is. The nearly 10 minute interview clip had me ready to tune out. But I am a beer contributor and a big fan so...on to next week!

    I second the comments of Reb.

    Magnotta is distasteful. I think it's the videos, the recency, the shallowness of it all. He's just not interesting.

    A non-true crime fan couldn't understand "better or worse killers" but this community can.

    I could sense the guys fighting to make this case more appealing than it really is. The nearly 10 minute interview clip had me ready to tune out.

    But I am a beer contributor and a big fan so...on to next week!

  • Kate

    Kate Massachusetts

    I wish Captain had brought all the hate on this guy. His MO is so insidious...when your guest talks about his being inspired by others....I feel that you guys did a great job. I have a 4 year old and how can I protect her from seeing the worst things ever!!! Very well done.

    I wish Captain had brought all the hate on this guy. His MO is so insidious...when your guest talks about his being inspired by others....I feel that you guys did a great job. I have a 4 year old and how can I protect her from seeing the worst things ever!!! Very well done.

  • Beth

    Beth Denver

    I still don't see where the "roses are red" note comes in, did I miss something in one of the podcasts? It's entirely possible. LOVE the podcast boys. Love when they come out and so sad when they're over. Keep it up!!

    I still don't see where the "roses are red" note comes in, did I miss something in one of the podcasts? It's entirely possible.

    LOVE the podcast boys. Love when they come out and so sad when they're over. Keep it up!!

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    You didn't miss anything Beth, I did. I didn't go through all of the notes or the details of some. Sorry for that. Nic

    You didn't miss anything Beth, I did. I didn't go through all of the notes or the details of some. Sorry for that.
    Nic

  • Jenbo

    Jenbo Unknown Places. (London)

    Can listen to a lot of true crime but Luka makes me do a real ugghhhhh spine shudder. I guess it's the kittens. While I thought you guys have covered this topic as sensitively as you could have done..... i was a bit disheartened by your guest's opinions and your views at times. I've worked for long time in mental health and with a focus on forensic mental health - so work with folks that have a jail sentence but need mental health care. Have worked with murderers. There's a definite difference between people who kill when they are having a terrible psychotic episode and people who are wankers that also have mental health problems. For me, Luka falls into the 'absolute cunt' category - a cunt who also has mental health problems. I felt that your guest failed to make a distinction. Maybe I'm just too much of a liberal bleeding heart. But seriously. Leave the kittens alone.

    Can listen to a lot of true crime but Luka makes me do a real ugghhhhh spine shudder. I guess it's the kittens.

    While I thought you guys have covered this topic as sensitively as you could have done..... i was a bit disheartened by your guest's opinions and your views at times.

    I've worked for long time in mental health and with a focus on forensic mental health - so work with folks that have a jail sentence but need mental health care. Have worked with murderers. There's a definite difference between people who kill when they are having a terrible psychotic episode and people who are wankers that also have mental health problems. For me, Luka falls into the 'absolute cunt' category - a cunt who also has mental health problems. I felt that your guest failed to make a distinction. Maybe I'm just too much of a liberal bleeding heart.

    But seriously. Leave the kittens alone.

  • Justine

    Justine Melbourne, AU

    Loved hearing from Dan Zupanski on this one. I had listened to the Sword and Scale episode about the " trophy kill" case in Canada, and kept thinking, 'you guys need to get that other guy on that knows all about these trophy kill guys" ๐Ÿ˜‚ And you did! ๐Ÿ‘

    Loved hearing from Dan Zupanski on this one. I had listened to the Sword and Scale episode about the " trophy kill" case in Canada, and kept thinking, 'you guys need to get that other guy on that knows all about these trophy kill guys" ๐Ÿ˜‚
    And you did!
    ๐Ÿ‘

  • Hi Guys! I work in forensics and am absolutely obsessed with your podcasts! Great research on the details of the case! Thanks for bringing to life these missing person/unsolved homicides that would be long forgotten! Cheers!!

    Hi Guys! I work in forensics and am absolutely obsessed with your podcasts! Great research on the details of the case! Thanks for bringing to life these missing person/unsolved homicides that would be long forgotten! Cheers!!

  • Emily

    Emily Texas

    I've read tons of cases, but this one had my heart beating so fast. I was terrified. I had never heard of this case before. This man was a truly disgusting, evil, repulsive human. When you guys started talking about Jun Li, and how outgoing he was on a video you saw.. It just broke my heart that he had to die by the hands of this monster. RIP Mr. Jun Li. I'm not always for the death penalty, but when you have 100% proof on video of the murder and you know it's that man, it's time to discuss whether he should still be breathing. Sending some love to Nic! (And a little to the Captain too of course)

    I've read tons of cases, but this one had my heart beating so fast. I was terrified. I had never heard of this case before. This man was a truly disgusting, evil, repulsive human.

    When you guys started talking about Jun Li, and how outgoing he was on a video you saw.. It just broke my heart that he had to die by the hands of this monster. RIP Mr. Jun Li.

    I'm not always for the death penalty, but when you have 100% proof on video of the murder and you know it's that man, it's time to discuss whether he should still be breathing.

    Sending some love to Nic! (And a little to the Captain too of course)

  • Kim Hanchette

    Kim Hanchette Antwerp, Belgium

    listen to most of the top true crime podcasts (while I walk my dog)- this is a good one- I like the repartee and the organization of telling the facts of the case is good- only once was I frustrated- the McCann case- they could NOT say the last name correctly to save their life! C'mon guys- it isn't that hard- not McCain, McCann-

    listen to most of the top true crime podcasts (while I walk my dog)- this is a good one- I like the repartee and the organization of telling the facts of the case is good- only once was I frustrated- the McCann case- they could NOT say the last name correctly to save their life! C'mon guys- it isn't that hard- not McCain, McCann-

  • Mark

    Mark Austin

    Wanted to take a shower after listening to the interviews of this creep. Not an ounce of substance to the guy, just some weirdo fascinated with his looks. When he keeps trying to squeeze into conversations that "people think he looks so awesome, " please! I hope his prison stay is particularly painful. Weirdo.

    Wanted to take a shower after listening to the interviews of this creep. Not an ounce of substance to the guy, just some weirdo fascinated with his looks. When he keeps trying to squeeze into conversations that "people think he looks so awesome, " please! I hope his prison stay is particularly painful. Weirdo.

  • ladyjocelyn

    ladyjocelyn

    this wins as the case I couldn't listen to all the way through. I'm one of those people that cries when something happens to the animals in a movie...and I have 3 cats. One is still a kitten. The very thought of someone harming something as sweet and innocent and loving after gaining trust is ghastly. the psyche of the person was so terribly dark I had to turn it off. I generally follow the podcast up with documentaries on youtube...but not this effing guy bc he wants attention. May he burn in hell.

    this wins as the case I couldn't listen to all the way through. I'm one of those people that cries when something happens to the animals in a movie...and I have 3 cats. One is still a kitten. The very thought of someone harming something as sweet and innocent and loving after gaining trust is ghastly. the psyche of the person was so terribly dark I had to turn it off. I generally follow the podcast up with documentaries on youtube...but not this effing guy bc he wants attention. May he burn in hell.

  • Jenni

    Jenni Tacoma, WA

    Uffdah!! This case makes me need Talk Space. Made my tummy hurt.

    Uffdah!! This case makes me need Talk Space. Made my tummy hurt.

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