Maura Murray part 2 ////// 30 

Maura Murray part 2 ////// 30 

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February 9th, 2004 Maura Murray a young woman who had just left the University of Massachusetts unexpectedly crashes her car in a rural mountainous area of New Hampshire. Just minutes later police find her car abandoned and locked and she has not been seen since. Where was she going, why did she leave school so quickly and why does this case continue to haunt us 12 years later. The local police believe Maura fled the area running away from her troubles and her family to start a new life. Maura's father believes she was murdered. What happened that night and more importantly where is Maura? This strange case has left many an armchair detective and cyber sleuths obsessed with hunting down any detail about Maura and her movements. Tonight we close the garage doors, open up a beer and discuss the case that refuses to go cold. 

Beer of the week- Summer Solstice by Bob's of New Hampshire 
Garage Grade: 3 1/2 out of 5 bottle caps 
Thanks, Nic and the Captain 

27 comments

  • Traci

    Traci

    I don't see a link to download this episode... any chance of getting a text link to the mp3 file for those of us who don't use an app to download? I subscribe through Feedly and download there.... (really loving the show, btw!)

    I don't see a link to download this episode... any chance of getting a text link to the mp3 file for those of us who don't use an app to download? I subscribe through Feedly and download there.... (really loving the show, btw!)

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    you can listen through the player on the website or click on podbean to download that app. hope that helps Captain

    you can listen through the player on the website or click on podbean to download that app. hope that helps
    Captain

  • Traci

    Traci

    Nope, it doesn't help - I'd really love to be able to continue listening how I usually listen, which is downloading directly and putting it on my little Sansa clip player... I don't use my phone for podcasts, so listening through a webplayer or an app just doesn't work for me. Thanks, anyway!

    Nope, it doesn't help - I'd really love to be able to continue listening how I usually listen, which is downloading directly and putting it on my little Sansa clip player... I don't use my phone for podcasts, so listening through a webplayer or an app just doesn't work for me. Thanks, anyway!

  • Traci

    Traci

    Ah, solution found! I can download the mp3 from podbean without having the app... huzzah! It's a few extra clicks, but definitely worth it to keep listening :)

    Ah, solution found! I can download the mp3 from podbean without having the app... huzzah! It's a few extra clicks, but definitely worth it to keep listening smile

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    Traci perfect!!! Yea sorry our website host made us take them down. Glad you can stay with us!!! Much love Captain

    Traci perfect!!! Yea sorry our website host made us take them down. Glad you can stay with us!!! Much love
    Captain

  • Tim

    Tim Chino Hills, Ca

    I am not sure that I can get on board with Nic's outrage at the police or even a declaration that they did not do enough. From what I have heard, searches have been completed, evidence has been collected, and even search warrants served. Say the cops like a suspect really good, they cannot tell the Murray family about him, because the suspect has rights too and no matter how suspicious things look it isn’t proven until it’s proven. I can think of several true crime books I have read where cops had a suspect that looked great and it ended up being another suspect. The last thing a police department would want is a suspect ending up reliving a bad Hugh Jackman movie. It seems to me Fred Murray is walking a line. He seems to believe it is possible that Maura left of her own free will, because in each of the media appears I have seen him in he made it a point to say “she never caused her parents any problems.” I also believe this may be the reason that he limits his contact with media. If Maura left due to the stressors in her life, how easy would it be to return to that life if your flaws like the West Point incident have been broadcast around the world along with rampant speculation about you running down a fellow student? Anorexia? Affairs? Note that in the Disappearance episode a friend recounted a story of her going to Boston on her own without telling anyone. At the same time, Fred knows that the cops will care less about a walk off, suicide, or accidental demise, so he pushes the narrative that she was abducted. And I don’t mean to diminish the likely hood of this theory, it is just the one Fred would hate to be true and the one that he has to push to keep authorities interested. I completely believe it is possible that she walked off, made it further than expected or went in a direction that was unexpected and succumbed to hypothermia because of the alcohol and improper clothing. My only question for the cops would be why did the number of reported rapes in Haverhill jump from one in 2004 (year of disappearance) to six in 2005 and aggravated assaults go from 0 to 8, respectively. Did someone new move to the neighborhood or a local learn a new pastime? http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Haverhill-New-Hampshire.html I would also like to know the odds of two people having the name Maura Murray. https://www.linkedin.com/in/creativefilmskc?trk=prof-samename-name

    I am not sure that I can get on board with Nic's outrage at the police or even a declaration that they did not do enough. From what I have heard, searches have been completed, evidence has been collected, and even search warrants served.

    Say the cops like a suspect really good, they cannot tell the Murray family about him, because the suspect has rights too and no matter how suspicious things look it isn’t proven until it’s proven. I can think of several true crime books I have read where cops had a suspect that looked great and it ended up being another suspect. The last thing a police department would want is a suspect ending up reliving a bad Hugh Jackman movie.

    It seems to me Fred Murray is walking a line. He seems to believe it is possible that Maura left of her own free will, because in each of the media appears I have seen him in he made it a point to say “she never caused her parents any problems.” I also believe this may be the reason that he limits his contact with media. If Maura left due to the stressors in her life, how easy would it be to return to that life if your flaws like the West Point incident have been broadcast around the world along with rampant speculation about you running down a fellow student? Anorexia? Affairs?

    Note that in the Disappearance episode a friend recounted a story of her going to Boston on her own without telling anyone.

    At the same time, Fred knows that the cops will care less about a walk off, suicide, or accidental demise, so he pushes the narrative that she was abducted. And I don’t mean to diminish the likely hood of this theory, it is just the one Fred would hate to be true and the one that he has to push to keep authorities interested.

    I completely believe it is possible that she walked off, made it further than expected or went in a direction that was unexpected and succumbed to hypothermia because of the alcohol and improper clothing.

    My only question for the cops would be why did the number of reported rapes in Haverhill jump from one in 2004 (year of disappearance) to six in 2005 and aggravated assaults go from 0 to 8, respectively. Did someone new move to the neighborhood or a local learn a new pastime?

    http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Haverhill-New-Hampshire.html

    I would also like to know the odds of two people having the name Maura Murray.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/creativefilmskc?trk=prof-samename-name

  • Jo

    Jo North of Boston

    I can't help but wonder if all the car accidents were really suicide attempts. I don't know what her driving history was prior to then but three accidents in a few days seems odd. I wonder if when she ran from the scene she finally did manage to commit suicide--maybe by jumping into water as nothing has ever been found. She wasn't far from the Connecticut and the bridges there tend to be high. I don't think the Connecticut freezes completely over--but I could be wrong about that.

    I can't help but wonder if all the car accidents were really suicide attempts. I don't know what her driving history was prior to then but three accidents in a few days seems odd. I wonder if when she ran from the scene she finally did manage to commit suicide--maybe by jumping into water as nothing has ever been found. She wasn't far from the Connecticut and the bridges there tend to be high. I don't think the Connecticut freezes completely over--but I could be wrong about that.

  • Tom D

    Tom D Connecticut

    The last 3 episodes don't come up on podbean or iTunes!!! How can I listen to them???

    The last 3 episodes don't come up on podbean or iTunes!!! How can I listen to them???

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    Tom In iTunes podcast player Delete True Crime Garage. Turn off phone, turn on phone, search in iTunes for true crime garage and re subscribe. Sorry about that we had some troubles. Much love Captain

    Tom
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    Delete True Crime Garage. Turn off phone, turn on phone, search in iTunes for true crime garage and re subscribe. Sorry about that we had some troubles. Much love
    Captain

  • Britt

    Britt CA

    Nic mentioned he had a theory on why the atm surveillance of Maura has never been released, did I miss it or was there too much to cover you didn't get to it? I'm really curious!

    Nic mentioned he had a theory on why the atm surveillance of Maura has never been released, did I miss it or was there too much to cover you didn't get to it? I'm really curious!

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    Britt I can't remember. We edit live so sometimes we get off track. Captain

    Britt I can't remember. We edit live so sometimes we get off track.
    Captain

  • Ashli

    Ashli TX

    New to the podcast, new to the case....was the bus driver looked at? Also, you mentioned that you wouldn't crash your car and immediately be shivering. Shivering or violently shaking can be a symptom of an anxiety disorder

    New to the podcast, new to the case....was the bus driver looked at?

    Also, you mentioned that you wouldn't crash your car and immediately be shivering. Shivering or violently shaking can be a symptom of an anxiety disorder

  • Robbie

    Robbie WI

    Hey, guys. I love listening to your shows while I deliver the mail around this small western Wisconsin town. I'm also from Ohio, originally from Youngstown, and I'm a huge true crime fan and you are amongst my fave podcasts (Criminal, Casefile, My Favorite Murder, Last Podcast on the Left). I'm interested in speculating on Maura's case... First, I think we have a young, fairly intelligent woman who is escalating in delinquent behavior. She starts with petty theft, follows with credit card fraud, and then to the hit-and-run, likely being intoxicated. I wonder if she was drinking on her last known trip and had that unfortunate thought that she would continue straight as the road turned, driving into the trees and ending it all... only she didn't succeed and met another undetermined outcome whilst in a drunken stupor. However, I've been entertaining the idea that this trip was all set up by her and dad, staged as a possile drunken driving accident, and dad picked her up within the next ten minutes. She quickly jumped in but he had her get in the driver side back seat which would be why the scent trail stopped in the middle of the road. And now dad goes up that way frequently under the guise of a search. But he is actually visiting her in the area, possibly in Canada, with a knew life, having escaped her past troubles to include minor-but-escalating crimes, and to ditch a boyfriend from whom she could not otherwise escape. Sounds like a decent plan to me. Keep up the good work, guys. Thank you

    Hey, guys. I love listening to your shows while I deliver the mail around this small western Wisconsin town. I'm also from Ohio, originally from Youngstown, and I'm a huge true crime fan and you are amongst my fave podcasts (Criminal, Casefile, My Favorite Murder, Last Podcast on the Left). I'm interested in speculating on Maura's case... First, I think we have a young, fairly intelligent woman who is escalating in delinquent behavior. She starts with petty theft, follows with credit card fraud, and then to the hit-and-run, likely being intoxicated. I wonder if she was drinking on her last known trip and had that unfortunate thought that she would continue straight as the road turned, driving into the trees and ending it all... only she didn't succeed and met another undetermined outcome whilst in a drunken stupor. However, I've been entertaining the idea that this trip was all set up by her and dad, staged as a possile drunken driving accident, and dad picked her up within the next ten minutes. She quickly jumped in but he had her get in the driver side back seat which would be why the scent trail stopped in the middle of the road. And now dad goes up that way frequently under the guise of a search. But he is actually visiting her in the area, possibly in Canada, with a knew life, having escaped her past troubles to include minor-but-escalating crimes, and to ditch a boyfriend from whom she could not otherwise escape. Sounds like a decent plan to me. Keep up the good work, guys. Thank you

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    Ashli Yes he was. Failed a lie detector test and then passed one.

    Ashli
    Yes he was. Failed a lie detector test and then passed one.

  • Aaron

    Aaron California

    I have never understood why this case is so mysterious to people. Leaving all the drama of her personal life aside, this girl crashes her car, and isn't found at the scene. There are no footprints in the snow heading from the scene, and dogs detect her scent for a short distance to where it stops in the middle of the road. Isn't it obvious that she got in another vehicle? I really don't get why people don't accept what seems obvious here. The only serious objection that I have heard to this idea is that it's statistically unlikely that the vehicle she got into would be a murderer's vehicle. Well, that's true, but to say that this means Maura Murray wasn't picked up from the road by a predator is called "Prosecutor's Fallacy": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosecutor's_fallacy To explain. Yes, the chances are — let's say — one in 10,000,000 that someone would get picked up by a murderer. Well, the population of the United States was about 280,000,000 in 2004, so statistically if the chances were one in 10,000,000 that such a thing would happen, that means that it's extremely likely that this happened to 28 people that year, and Maura unfortunately was one of them. And let's face it — there's only one Maura Murray case. The fact that there are only a tiny number of cases of mysterious disappearances that point to foul play means that many of those cases probably are from that tiny pool of people who really did get that unlucky. Her case is famous, and people talk about it, because it really is weird. And improbable. So to say that the obvious solution to her case is improbable doesn't seem like that great of an objection.

    I have never understood why this case is so mysterious to people. Leaving all the drama of her personal life aside, this girl crashes her car, and isn't found at the scene. There are no footprints in the snow heading from the scene, and dogs detect her scent for a short distance to where it stops in the middle of the road.

    Isn't it obvious that she got in another vehicle? I really don't get why people don't accept what seems obvious here.

    The only serious objection that I have heard to this idea is that it's statistically unlikely that the vehicle she got into would be a murderer's vehicle. Well, that's true, but to say that this means Maura Murray wasn't picked up from the road by a predator is called "Prosecutor's Fallacy": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosecutor's_fallacy

    To explain. Yes, the chances are — let's say — one in 10,000,000 that someone would get picked up by a murderer. Well, the population of the United States was about 280,000,000 in 2004, so statistically if the chances were one in 10,000,000 that such a thing would happen, that means that it's extremely likely that this happened to 28 people that year, and Maura unfortunately was one of them.

    And let's face it — there's only one Maura Murray case. The fact that there are only a tiny number of cases of mysterious disappearances that point to foul play means that many of those cases probably are from that tiny pool of people who really did get that unlucky. Her case is famous, and people talk about it, because it really is weird. And improbable. So to say that the obvious solution to her case is improbable doesn't seem like that great of an objection.

  • Eric

    Eric California

    [quote=Ashli] Shivering or violently shaking can be a symptom of an anxiety disorder [/quote] I dunno. A lot of times when I go on a long car trip in the winter I wear a T-shirt or light sweater in the car and just crank the car heater up really high. I find it's a lot more comfortable driving in light layers than driving all bundled up, especially on a long trip. And since the car is climate controlled, why wear so many layers anyway? But on a cold February evening in New England someone doing that would become very cold very quickly, and probably start shivering pretty fast. Like many details of this case, I think this has kind of been blown out of proportion when there is a fairly simple and reasonable explanation.

    Ashli wrote:

    Shivering or violently shaking can be a symptom of an anxiety disorder

    I dunno. A lot of times when I go on a long car trip in the winter I wear a T-shirt or light sweater in the car and just crank the car heater up really high. I find it's a lot more comfortable driving in light layers than driving all bundled up, especially on a long trip. And since the car is climate controlled, why wear so many layers anyway?

    But on a cold February evening in New England someone doing that would become very cold very quickly, and probably start shivering pretty fast.

    Like many details of this case, I think this has kind of been blown out of proportion when there is a fairly simple and reasonable explanation.

  • Sandy

    Sandy Cincinnati OH

    Hard to listen to part 2 of Maura Murray. The captain is clearly drunk. Slurring, bumbling, not sharp. "High School....I mean college" ...yuck.

    Hard to listen to part 2 of Maura Murray. The captain is clearly drunk. Slurring, bumbling, not sharp. "High School....I mean college" ...yuck.

  • MaryVirginia

    MaryVirginia Orlando, FL

    Did anyone see her car after the hit & run? Why did she have to borrow her dad's car on Saturday? Was it because her car was damaged from the hit & run? Was the accident on Monday to hide the previous damage? I feel like I heard on another podcast that the damage to the car didn't line up with the accident site.

    Did anyone see her car after the hit & run? Why did she have to borrow her dad's car on Saturday? Was it because her car was damaged from the hit & run? Was the accident on Monday to hide the previous damage? I feel like I heard on another podcast that the damage to the car didn't line up with the accident site.

  • Rachel

    Rachel Indiana

    I have seen a list of the item that were found in her car, but I wish I could find a list of what was specifically found in the trunk of her car. I can't shake this feeling that there was something important and telling there. I listened to this episode last week and I can't seem to stop coming back to the question "but what was in her trunk?" Maybe I'm just weird, but it just keeps kicking around in my brain that there is inportant information there.

    I have seen a list of the item that were found in her car, but I wish I could find a list of what was specifically found in the trunk of her car. I can't shake this feeling that there was something important and telling there. I listened to this episode last week and I can't seem to stop coming back to the question "but what was in her trunk?"
    Maybe I'm just weird, but it just keeps kicking around in my brain that there is inportant information there.

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous

    My thoughts: did she get abducted or get into a car where the dogs stopped in the road, then get out of that vehicle where the person says they saw her running miles down the road? Was that area searched? This is what I'd like to know.

    My thoughts: did she get abducted or get into a car where the dogs stopped in the road, then get out of that vehicle where the person says they saw her running miles down the road? Was that area searched? This is what I'd like to know.

  • Mike

    Mike Connecticut

    My theory, dad drive down to give her $4k to get a new identity and was she was heading to Canada because of the hit and run. Met someone close to the border where she crashed the car to cover damage from the hit and run and continued on North.

    My theory, dad drive down to give her $4k to get a new identity and was she was heading to Canada because of the hit and run. Met someone close to the border where she crashed the car to cover damage from the hit and run and continued on North.

  • Kassie

    Kassie Los Angeles, CA

    Mike you hit on basically what I think happened here. Also, due to her past theft and credit card fraud situations, it is possible she stole someone's identity and is still alive and possibly in the US.

    Mike you hit on basically what I think happened here. Also, due to her past theft and credit card fraud situations, it is possible she stole someone's identity and is still alive and possibly in the US.

  • Jason

    Jason Coloma, Mi

    I just found your podcast, and listened to the Maura Murray ones, and after part one, and all through part two, I'm left wondering if this could be a witness protection type of thing. I haven't done any research, just wondering if that avenue has been explored. Maybe it would make sense of things packed and left behind, to ease the burden already placed on a hurting family, and friends. It could also shed light on seemingly a lack of cooperation from local law enforcement, along with the FBI. It would definitely explain a disappearance with no body, and no trace.

    I just found your podcast, and listened to the Maura Murray ones, and after part one, and all through part two, I'm left wondering if this could be a witness protection type of thing. I haven't done any research, just wondering if that avenue has been explored. Maybe it would make sense of things packed and left behind, to ease the burden already placed on a hurting family, and friends. It could also shed light on seemingly a lack of cooperation from local law enforcement, along with the FBI. It would definitely explain a disappearance with no body, and no trace.

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    Jason • Coloma, Mi Interesting thoughts! thanks Captain

    Jason • Coloma, Mi

    Interesting thoughts! thanks

    Captain

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous

    This is one heck of a case. Great show Nik and the Captain and James Renner was very informative as well. I have watched a lot of stuff on this case and read a bunch of stuff as well. I also read James Renner's book on the case. So I will give me theory on the case. Is Fred Murray a bit strange sure but did he kill Maura or have anything to do with it No way not at all. That leaves a few options which is disappeared on her own, killed by stranger, killed by someone she knew. I'm leaning toward a stranger abduction. I know the stats what are the chances of being there at that moment that a killer is there not good. It's definitely defying the odds but it happens. Do I think is was a Ted Bundy , Gary Ridgeway sadist serial killer not necessarily. It's potentially a case where someone came upon her and offered a ride and then tried to do something sexually with her and it got out of hand. He then killed her to get rid of her as a victim who could ID him. Hey may never have killed before or since. I have heard people say things like there wasn't time to abduct her and she wouldn't have went and she would have fought him off etc. My wife is about 5'2 120lbs and she was in the military so she has combat and fighting training. She can handle herself but me being 5"11 210lbs pounds or so I could subdue her in less than a minute and I'm not some trained tough guy. Someone bigger and stronger could easily get her in the car. Yes she rejected the bus guy because he looked a bit menacing. However eventually as you start to get colder and colder and you are in the middle of nowhere with no cell reception you will definitely consider the next car that comes by if the person seems harmless and it gets you out of the cold. Yes Maura had her issues and she had a little trouble with the law and serious issues driving a car without wrecking. She lied to the professor and looked up places on the net. I think she was trying to get away for a bit and she ran into the wrong person at the wrong time. She was a smart girl but seemed like someone who found her way into little problems quite often. So with that being said would she have been able to slip across the border and get a new ID and new social security number. Stay hidden all these years even though so many people know the case and what she looks like I doubt it. Unless you want to live like a homeless vagrant of the grid totally starting a new life is not an easy thing. You just don't go to the local Walmart and get new social security cards, driver's license. It takes connections and money to disappear and stay away from everyone in the world looking for you. I know it's a fairy tale ending to a strange story but I just don't think it happened. I think you are looking for a killer who lives somewhere in that area. Maybe not right by the crime scene but I'd say 10-15 mile radius. I think you are potentially looking at a guy who never killed before or might not even have a criminal record. He may have some peeping tom type stuff or maybe minor assault or creepy in some ways his Ex's would tell you. That's just my theory. James Renner is an excellent writer and I enjoyed his book and passion for what he does. I also like his opinion on other cases. However I think in this case he is dead wrong and believing the fantasy that she is in Canada married with kids and working a good job.

    This is one heck of a case. Great show Nik and the Captain and James Renner was very informative as well. I have watched a lot of stuff on this case and read a bunch of stuff as well. I also read James Renner's book on the case. So I will give me theory on the case. Is Fred Murray a bit strange sure but did he kill Maura or have anything to do with it No way not at all. That leaves a few options which is disappeared on her own, killed by stranger, killed by someone she knew.

    I'm leaning toward a stranger abduction. I know the stats what are the chances of being there at that moment that a killer is there not good. It's definitely defying the odds but it happens. Do I think is was a Ted Bundy , Gary Ridgeway sadist serial killer not necessarily. It's potentially a case where someone came upon her and offered a ride and then tried to do something sexually with her and it got out of hand. He then killed her to get rid of her as a victim who could ID him. Hey may never have killed before or since. I have heard people say things like there wasn't time to abduct her and she wouldn't have went and she would have fought him off etc. My wife is about 5'2 120lbs and she was in the military so she has combat and fighting training. She can handle herself but me being 5"11 210lbs pounds or so I could subdue her in less than a minute and I'm not some trained tough guy. Someone bigger and stronger could easily get her in the car. Yes she rejected the bus guy because he looked a bit menacing. However eventually as you start to get colder and colder and you are in the middle of nowhere with no cell reception you will definitely consider the next car that comes by if the person seems harmless and it gets you out of the cold. Yes Maura had her issues and she had a little trouble with the law and serious issues driving a car without wrecking. She lied to the professor and looked up places on the net. I think she was trying to get away for a bit and she ran into the wrong person at the wrong time. She was a smart girl but seemed like someone who found her way into little problems quite often. So with that being said would she have been able to slip across the border and get a new ID and new social security number. Stay hidden all these years even though so many people know the case and what she looks like I doubt it. Unless you want to live like a homeless vagrant of the grid totally starting a new life is not an easy thing. You just don't go to the local Walmart and get new social security cards, driver's license. It takes connections and money to disappear and stay away from everyone in the world looking for you. I know it's a fairy tale ending to a strange story but I just don't think it happened. I think you are looking for a killer who lives somewhere in that area. Maybe not right by the crime scene but I'd say 10-15 mile radius. I think you are potentially looking at a guy who never killed before or might not even have a criminal record. He may have some peeping tom type stuff or maybe minor assault or creepy in some ways his Ex's would tell you. That's just my theory. James Renner is an excellent writer and I enjoyed his book and passion for what he does. I also like his opinion on other cases. However I think in this case he is dead wrong and believing the fantasy that she is in Canada married with kids and working a good job.

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    Mike great stuff buddy! Most of the time when we pick a case it's a listener recommendation, my pick or the captain's. But the MM case is one that the Captain and I both fell deep into and still discuss it often to this day. I think the Track coach fling boyfriend guy was traveling with her or going to spend some of that weekend with her in the cabin. After the car wreck she joined him in his car. Once at the cabin after many drinks she told him she was pregnant and he went crazy and killed her and put her body in the woods some where in the area of the cabin. Can't prove she was pregnant just a gut feeling but that cabin may hold many secrets. Cheers, Nic

    Mike great stuff buddy!
    Most of the time when we pick a case it's a listener recommendation, my pick or the captain's. But the MM case is one that the Captain and I both fell deep into and still discuss it often to this day. I think the Track coach fling boyfriend guy was traveling with her or going to spend some of that weekend with her in the cabin. After the car wreck she joined him in his car. Once at the cabin after many drinks she told him she was pregnant and he went crazy and killed her and put her body in the woods some where in the area of the cabin. Can't prove she was pregnant just a gut feeling but that cabin may hold many secrets.
    Cheers,
    Nic

  • Shay

    Shay Rochester, NY

    I'm deeply invested in reading everything I can regarding this case - and am working my way through it all. I have one major question (among others), that I haven't found to be mentioned by you guys or anywhere yet in my readings: were there any kind of directions found in her vehicle? And if not, any recent printouts of directions/searches found on her computer? As there was no GPS at that time on cell phones, nor was there any service at her last known location, how would she know where she is going if in fact she had a destination? I just found that to be strange as she was not from NH; and I know that I never have traveled any great distance without printed or written directions.

    I'm deeply invested in reading everything I can regarding this case - and am working my way through it all. I have one major question (among others), that I haven't found to be mentioned by you guys or anywhere yet in my readings: were there any kind of directions found in her vehicle? And if not, any recent printouts of directions/searches found on her computer? As there was no GPS at that time on cell phones, nor was there any service at her last known location, how would she know where she is going if in fact she had a destination? I just found that to be strange as she was not from NH; and I know that I never have traveled any great distance without printed or written directions.

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