Michael Francke /// 245 /// 246

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  • Mellow

    Mellow Seattle

    Man I don’t mean to rub any salt cuz I think most likely Frank Gable got setup here, but man how do u have like 5 or 6 friends and associates all willing to send u up the creek for something u didn’t do at once. I’ve got my fair share of enemies but damn man, what did he do invite them all over for dinner and after ward laugh and tell them he pissed in the soup?

    Man I don’t mean to rub any salt cuz I think most likely Frank Gable got setup here, but man how do u have like 5 or 6 friends and associates all willing to send u up the creek for something u didn’t do at once. I’ve got my fair share of enemies but damn man, what did he do invite them all over for dinner and after ward laugh and tell them he pissed in the soup?

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    True Crime Garage

    Damn - now I'm not have soup for lunch. - Nic

    Damn - now I'm not have soup for lunch.
    - Nic

  • Megan

    Megan

    Love the new logo for Part 2!

    Love the new logo for Part 2!

  • Reb

    Reb DC

    THANK YOU for doing this case and capturing a lot of the intrigue and weirdness about it. A few thoughts: 1. Phun Phact: Phil Stanford, the Oregonian writer you quoted as long not believing in Frank Gable’s guilt, has actually made a guest True Crime Garage appearance before – he was the columnist who the Happy Face Killer was sending his creepy letters to around about the same time as all this was going down. 2. I am quite familiar with the area and don’t see for a second that someone thought they were breaking into a car on the hospital grounds instead of the Department of Corrections. While its theoretically possible someone didn’t know it was the Department of Corrections per se, its pretty clearly a stately government building subject to security monitoring (although apparently not good enough). 3. The coverage on this was immediate and HUGE – breaking news on all the local network affiliates. The idea that Gable wouldn’t have immediately known what he did and made that comment to his wife about stabbing a guy in the hospital parking lot does not make a lot of sense in that context. 4. Regarding Gable’s being a drug dealer and why would he breaking into cars… we aren’t talking about Pablo Escobar here. I believe it is a stretch to call him a drug dealer at all, and a low level one at best. Salem was ravaged by meth during this period, and he was himself was a meth addict. He wasn’t Ballin’ and Shot Callin’ by any stretch. 5. I know a lot of people think of Oregon as this hip, progressive state, but, especially back in the day, Salem was a Good Ole Boy town with a lot of petty corruption, government bribery, all sorts of ridiculousness (look no further than Goldschmidt deciding not to run for re-election right after Frankee was killed only to find out years and years later he was being blackmailed at the time because of his own horrendous behavior.) My point is, killing off Frankee to avoid being exposed didn’t seem even remotely odd to the point that the prosecutors had a really hard time convincing jurors that it was anything but that. 6. I am not saying the Frank Gable didn’t kill him, but I doubt it. Was he part of a broader conspiracy if he did it, absolutely not! No one would solicit this dude to clean out their cat box, let alone commit a murder for hire. AND, there is little doubt in my mind he would have sung long ago if he had any information to share. 7. I wouldn’t read too much into the jury not going for the death penalty. Oregon has a really weird history with it, and has only executed “volunteers” since it was reinstated in 1986. For crying out loud, Dayton Leroy Rogers can’t get his ass executed in Oregon. 8. I can’t believe you passed up the opportunity to delve into Gable and his sexy time with his lawyer. Relevant, probably not. Salacious, even scandalous. YES! Thank you, again for taking on this case. Alas, I suspect it will go down in Oregon lore as a We Will Never Really Know.

    THANK YOU for doing this case and capturing a lot of the intrigue and weirdness about it. A few thoughts:

    1. Phun Phact: Phil Stanford, the Oregonian writer you quoted as long not believing in Frank Gable’s guilt, has actually made a guest True Crime Garage appearance before – he was the columnist who the Happy Face Killer was sending his creepy letters to around about the same time as all this was going down.
    2. I am quite familiar with the area and don’t see for a second that someone thought they were breaking into a car on the hospital grounds instead of the Department of Corrections. While its theoretically possible someone didn’t know it was the Department of Corrections per se, its pretty clearly a stately government building subject to security monitoring (although apparently not good enough).
    3. The coverage on this was immediate and HUGE – breaking news on all the local network affiliates. The idea that Gable wouldn’t have immediately known what he did and made that comment to his wife about stabbing a guy in the hospital parking lot does not make a lot of sense in that context.
    4. Regarding Gable’s being a drug dealer and why would he breaking into cars… we aren’t talking about Pablo Escobar here. I believe it is a stretch to call him a drug dealer at all, and a low level one at best. Salem was ravaged by meth during this period, and he was himself was a meth addict. He wasn’t Ballin’ and Shot Callin’ by any stretch.
    5. I know a lot of people think of Oregon as this hip, progressive state, but, especially back in the day, Salem was a Good Ole Boy town with a lot of petty corruption, government bribery, all sorts of ridiculousness (look no further than Goldschmidt deciding not to run for re-election right after Frankee was killed only to find out years and years later he was being blackmailed at the time because of his own horrendous behavior.) My point is, killing off Frankee to avoid being exposed didn’t seem even remotely odd to the point that the prosecutors had a really hard time convincing jurors that it was anything but that.
    6. I am not saying the Frank Gable didn’t kill him, but I doubt it. Was he part of a broader conspiracy if he did it, absolutely not! No one would solicit this dude to clean out their cat box, let alone commit a murder for hire. AND, there is little doubt in my mind he would have sung long ago if he had any information to share.
    7. I wouldn’t read too much into the jury not going for the death penalty. Oregon has a really weird history with it, and has only executed “volunteers” since it was reinstated in 1986. For crying out loud, Dayton Leroy Rogers can’t get his ass executed in Oregon.
    8. I can’t believe you passed up the opportunity to delve into Gable and his sexy time with his lawyer. Relevant, probably not. Salacious, even scandalous. YES!

    Thank you, again for taking on this case. Alas, I suspect it will go down in Oregon lore as a We Will Never Really Know.

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    True Crime Garage

    That’s true about Dayton Leroy Rogers... we covered those cases a long time ago. If he can’t get the death penalty well then no one can. Thanks for chiming in here. I didn’t want to call out the Captain on air but for some reason he made the jump that being a drug dealing means “you big time” when in fact most drug dealers are quite small time. - cheers Nic

    That’s true about Dayton Leroy Rogers... we covered those cases a long time ago. If he can’t get the death penalty well then no one can. Thanks for chiming in here. I didn’t want to call out the Captain on air but for some reason he made the jump that being a drug dealing means “you big time” when in fact most drug dealers are quite small time.
    - cheers Nic

  • @Reb Awesome comments! Thanks for adding some local flavor. "He wasn’t Ballin’ and Shot Callin’ by any stretch." - heh heh...

    @Reb
    Awesome comments! Thanks for adding some local flavor.

    "He wasn’t Ballin’ and Shot Callin’ by any stretch." - heh heh...

  • Mg

    Mg Coastal Area

    So confused listening to first episode. If he was stabbed in the heart at his car, there would have been blood everywhere, including a blood trail to the body. But no blood evidence is ever brought up. This changes everything and makes any deductions impossible. Moreover, a "laptop" in 1989? Uhh, no such thing. Good case to tackle, maybe just rushed a bit. Still love the show and think Nic is as strong a podcaster as there is.

    So confused listening to first episode. If he was stabbed in the heart at his car, there would have been blood everywhere, including a blood trail to the body. But no blood evidence is ever brought up. This changes everything and makes any deductions impossible. Moreover, a "laptop" in 1989? Uhh, no such thing. Good case to tackle, maybe just rushed a bit. Still love the show and think Nic is as strong a podcaster as there is.

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    True Crime Garage

    Sorry Mg... That was the information available regarding his belongings and the crime scene or at least the police theories that went with the "crime scene." I apologize if this is incorrect but simply reported what was uncovered in our research. I too questioned the "laptop" statement but I assume they were using the term loosely and referring to some type of late 80's portable electronic device- Epson, IBM or Macintosh. Cheers Nic

    Sorry Mg... That was the information available regarding his belongings and the crime scene or at least the police theories that went with the "crime scene." I apologize if this is incorrect but simply reported what was uncovered in our research. I too questioned the "laptop" statement but I assume they were using the term loosely and referring to some type of late 80's portable electronic device- Epson, IBM or Macintosh.
    Cheers Nic

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