Ryan Ferguson /// 116 /// 117

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  • Kim Nedz

    Kim Nedz North Huntingdon, PA

    Question weren't Ryan and Chuck either drunk, high or both? How much strength could they have to hit and strangle a large man that is possibly fighting back in some way. Unless they knocked him out, I am sure he was fighting back against wobbly drunk people. I know some drugs give you incredible strength, but if they were so intoxicated, how could they have that much strength. Oh and lets add, they snuck up on the guy. Kent couldn't hear them or see them coming. (sarcastically speaking) Maybe Chuck and Ryan seen him coming out and hid and did a surprise attack. And then let's talk about the PO-lice. Cops usually stick together. and they can intimidate the perp. Scare tactic. I have seen that done before. They get in your face, scream in your face (spit flying) In you face. Belittling you. I guess I will wait for part 2 of the story, I am sure you will be having a part 2.

    Question weren't Ryan and Chuck either drunk, high or both? How much strength could they have to hit and strangle a large man that is possibly fighting back in some way. Unless they knocked him out, I am sure he was fighting back against wobbly drunk people. I know some drugs give you incredible strength, but if they were so intoxicated, how could they have that much strength. Oh and lets add, they snuck up on the guy. Kent couldn't hear them or see them coming. (sarcastically speaking) Maybe Chuck and Ryan seen him coming out and hid and did a surprise attack. And then let's talk about the PO-lice. Cops usually stick together. and they can intimidate the perp. Scare tactic. I have seen that done before. They get in your face, scream in your face (spit flying) In you face. Belittling you. I guess I will wait for part 2 of the story, I am sure you will be having a part 2.

  • Marianne

    Marianne AR

    A 5-year old who took a crap in the family room?! Quite the analogy lol. Does this happen?

    A 5-year old who took a crap in the family room?! Quite the analogy lol. Does this happen?

  • JTallroth

    JTallroth

    I almost feel like we need a podcast about this podcast! Kind of like a Q&A about the last episode were the TCG Army can participate. Talk a bit about the show, cover questions, theories and what not... It's being done in connection with many other true crime podcasts and that seems to work - and those are not TCG! Need I say more? I'm game - Anyone wanna join? 😉

    I almost feel like we need a podcast about this podcast! Kind of like a Q&A about the last episode were the TCG Army can participate. Talk a bit about the show, cover questions, theories and what not... It's being done in connection with many other true crime podcasts and that seems to work - and those are not TCG! Need I say more? I'm game - Anyone wanna join? 😉

  • Agent Summer

    Agent Summer Minneapolis, MN

    This case is such a shame. As you pointed out, this should never have gotten to trial and hurt the life of Ryan Ferguson. Fully agree with the Captain about Charles "Chuck". He clearly has something wrong with him, but not sure if it's the chicken before the egg or the other way around. No matter, his blackouts, alcohol & drug use have clearly had a negative impact on his life. Can't believe he would use a dream as a sign of his guilt, especially when so many of his facts don't match up as even possible! I really think neither of these two had anything to do with this attack. Besides, do you really think 2 smaller stature teenagers, especially if they're drunk, could out maneuver a sober, larger man who played football? Just don't see it happening! Really do hope they'll find those responsible for this crime one day.

    This case is such a shame. As you pointed out, this should never have gotten to trial and hurt the life of Ryan Ferguson. Fully agree with the Captain about Charles "Chuck". He clearly has something wrong with him, but not sure if it's the chicken before the egg or the other way around. No matter, his blackouts, alcohol & drug use have clearly had a negative impact on his life. Can't believe he would use a dream as a sign of his guilt, especially when so many of his facts don't match up as even possible! I really think neither of these two had anything to do with this attack. Besides, do you really think 2 smaller stature teenagers, especially if they're drunk, could out maneuver a sober, larger man who played football? Just don't see it happening!

    Really do hope they'll find those responsible for this crime one day.

  • Kathleen Rose

    Kathleen Rose Chicago

    As of today, I have managed to listen to every episode, and every season. Even though I am a working stiff, I have been happy to pay the small cost for downloaded episodes. I value your sense of justice & curiosity so much. I marvel that you can find the humor and the absurdity in the darkness, while maintaining a sacred respect for all involved. I find myself paying closer attention to my surroundings. These are stories that must be told and retold to honor those who have been harmed. Thank you for making these painful narratives bearable. You are lights and catalysts, and great good will evolve through your effort. So grateful to both of you.

    As of today, I have managed to listen to every episode, and every season. Even though I am a working stiff, I have been happy to pay the small cost for downloaded episodes. I value your sense of justice & curiosity so much. I marvel that you can find the humor and the absurdity in the darkness, while maintaining a sacred respect for all involved. I find myself paying closer attention to my surroundings. These are stories that must be told and retold to honor those who have been harmed. Thank you for making these painful narratives bearable. You are lights and catalysts, and great good will evolve through your effort. So grateful to both of you.

  • John

    John Wisconsin

    Respectfully, revealing the murder conviction and subsequent reversal in the first 10 minutes is not what I've grown to love from your show. Keep it suspenseful, save some surprises. Otherwise great episode.

    Respectfully, revealing the murder conviction and subsequent reversal in the first 10 minutes is not what I've grown to love from your show. Keep it suspenseful, save some surprises. Otherwise great episode.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    I agree John but I try to change up the story telling method a little each week. This week for me anyway I knew the outcome before reviewing the case in detail. The fun part of the research for me was making those mental notes going through the story of the crime. I thought most would already know the outcome and would like to do the same. Don't worry cause next week we have a whopper of a story for you. It's going to start off with a strange story that will suck you in and then tell you about a crime story you will be shocked that you've not heard it before.

    I agree John but I try to change up the story telling method a little each week. This week for me anyway I knew the outcome before reviewing the case in detail. The fun part of the research for me was making those mental notes going through the story of the crime. I thought most would already know the outcome and would like to do the same. Don't worry cause next week we have a whopper of a story for you. It's going to start off with a strange story that will suck you in and then tell you about a crime story you will be shocked that you've not heard it before.

  • Michelle Humphreys

    Michelle Humphreys Tennessee

    "A douche bag playin an asshole". My favorite "Captain quote" .

    "A douche bag playin an asshole". My favorite "Captain quote" .

  • Ryan

    Ryan Greensburg PA

    Can you please post the Halloween party photo with Chuck in the background? I can't find it. I apologize if it's already been posted somewhere and I'm just becoming blind

    Can you please post the Halloween party photo with Chuck in the background? I can't find it. I apologize if it's already been posted somewhere and I'm just becoming blind

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Hi Ryan, I don't have a copy or link for the photo. I hope I reported this right on the show but the Ferguson family, I believe Bill, Ryan's father found the photo. He found it on social media. It may have been posted by the family on one of the Ryan sites back when he was still in prison. Nic

    Hi Ryan, I don't have a copy or link for the photo. I hope I reported this right on the show but the Ferguson family, I believe Bill, Ryan's father found the photo. He found it on social media. It may have been posted by the family on one of the Ryan sites back when he was still in prison.

    Nic

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Ryan you can find it here. https://deborahchoo.wordpress.com/2011/09/page/2/ Lady in the mirror -archive from September 2011, near the bottom of the page. Or google picture of Dallas Mallory and chuck Erickson. It does come up some where in there. They clearly were at the same party, well before Chuck was blitzed. Happy hunting, Nic

    Ryan you can find it here.
    https://deborahchoo.wordpress.com/2011/09/page/2/

    Lady in the mirror -archive from September 2011, near the bottom of the page. Or google picture of Dallas Mallory and chuck Erickson. It does come up some where in there. They clearly were at the same party, well before Chuck was blitzed. Happy hunting,
    Nic

  • Tony E

    Tony E Crown Point, IN

    Great episode guys. I listen to a lot to true crime and 99% is about serial killers or multiple killings. This was such a great change of pace and a story that needed to be told.

    Great episode guys. I listen to a lot to true crime and 99% is about serial killers or multiple killings. This was such a great change of pace and a story that needed to be told.

  • Justine Power

    Justine Power Melbourne, AU

    I had a thought last night... The one thing that doesn't make sense to me is that Chucky says they were doing coke, Adderal and drinking and that he blacked out. But Cocaine and Amphetamines would counteract the alcohol. I have some experience with these kind of party cocktails (back in my misspent youth 😂) and it doesn't ring true to me that you'd be in a drunken stupor if you'd been mixing those drugs in with the drinking. Still totally Shonk policing and ass prosecution.

    I had a thought last night... The one thing that doesn't make sense to me is that Chucky says they were doing coke, Adderal and drinking and that he blacked out. But Cocaine and Amphetamines would counteract the alcohol.
    I have some experience with these kind of party cocktails (back in my misspent youth 😂) and it doesn't ring true to me that you'd be in a drunken stupor if you'd been mixing those drugs in with the drinking.
    Still totally Shonk policing and ass prosecution.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Justine thank you. I think Chucky was doing coke and adderal. I don't think Ryan was participating in much other than the drinking. I could be mistaken but with Chuck you have to keep in mind he probably started drinking that night around 7pm. They left the bar according to Ryan at 1:30am - I think old Chucky was binge drinking as the night went on. Of course coke and adderal can counteract but it can also supper charge you where you will start consuming quantities of alcohol very quickly. I think he often liked to get super charged and then get super smashed. Cheers, Nic

    Justine thank you.
    I think Chucky was doing coke and adderal. I don't think Ryan was participating in much other than the drinking. I could be mistaken but with Chuck you have to keep in mind he probably started drinking that night around 7pm. They left the bar according to Ryan at 1:30am - I think old Chucky was binge drinking as the night went on. Of course coke and adderal can counteract but it can also supper charge you where you will start consuming quantities of alcohol very quickly. I think he often liked to get super charged and then get super smashed.
    Cheers,
    Nic

  • The Corporal

    The Corporal U.S.S. Unknown

    I think it is a REAL SHAME that this guy, the prosecutor, became a judge some years ago,,, he is a posterboy for a win-at-all-cost mentality, the worst of the behavior for a man of the law... I remember him in an interview saying "what? You suggest that he confessed to something that actually never happened?!? Never heard of that before!!!" Can u imagine- never heard of false confessions!!! What an idiot!!! Well, now - an honorable judge... there you go...

    I think it is a REAL SHAME that this guy, the prosecutor, became a judge some years ago,,, he is a posterboy for a win-at-all-cost mentality, the worst of the behavior for a man of the law... I remember him in an interview saying "what? You suggest that he confessed to something that actually never happened?!? Never heard of that before!!!" Can u imagine- never heard of false confessions!!! What an idiot!!! Well, now - an honorable judge... there you go...

  • J-Town

    J-Town Chicago, IL

    Michael Boyd is the killer in this case. Can't keep his story straight, puts himself at the scene right about the time of the murder. Can't remember what car he was driving and came back to the scene that night. This wasn't a robbery, it was a rage killing

    Michael Boyd is the killer in this case. Can't keep his story straight, puts himself at the scene right about the time of the murder. Can't remember what car he was driving and came back to the scene that night. This wasn't a robbery, it was a rage killing

  • Stephanie F.

    Stephanie F. Mobile, AL

    Kent came out of the building as he did every night. Michael Boyd stated he waited for Kent and was, by his own admission, the last person who spoke to Kent. Michael Boyd stated in his interview he laughed as he looked at Kents car and thought of him feeding the cats in the parking lot as he drove away. Question: didn't Michael Boyd speak to Kent? When did he say he drove away "thinking" of Kent feeding the cats? The police crime scene report noted the presence of cat food near the car. Boyd did know Kent fed the cats and stated he waited in his car for Kent to come out of the building. If Michael knew Kent fed the cats then others probably knew as well. Was someone lying in wait? Someone who knew two things: first, the cameras were broken and secondly, Kent fed the cats by his car. Here's my theory: Kent stooped or bent over to feed the cats and he was attacked, driven to his knees, then, in a moment of rage and impulse, the attacker pulls Kent's belt off and strangles him. The attacker(s) then exited down the alley leaving the messy blood trail the cainine unit followed.

    Kent came out of the building as he did every night. Michael Boyd stated he waited for Kent and was, by his own admission, the last person who spoke to Kent. Michael Boyd stated in his interview he laughed as he looked at Kents car and thought of him feeding the cats in the parking lot as he drove away. Question: didn't Michael Boyd speak to Kent? When did he say he drove away "thinking" of Kent feeding the cats?

    The police crime scene report noted the presence of cat food near the car. Boyd did know Kent fed the cats and stated he waited in his car for Kent to come out of the building. If Michael knew Kent fed the cats then others probably knew as well.

    Was someone lying in wait? Someone who knew two things: first, the cameras were broken and secondly, Kent fed the cats by his car.

    Here's my theory: Kent stooped or bent over to feed the cats and he was attacked, driven to his knees, then, in a moment of rage and impulse, the attacker pulls Kent's belt off and strangles him. The attacker(s)
    then exited down the alley leaving the messy blood trail the cainine unit followed.

  • Margie

    Margie Jefferson City, MO

    Thanks for covering this case, guys. I shared with Ryan's mom and she was thrilled. She was going to forward to him. I . I LOVE LOVE LOVE the Captain's description of Kevin Crane. Spot on! Love you guys!

    Thanks for covering this case, guys. I shared with Ryan's mom and she was thrilled. She was going to forward to him. I . I LOVE LOVE LOVE the Captain's description of Kevin Crane. Spot on! Love you guys!

  • Kate

    Kate Massachusetts

    If the blows to his head were "weak" and (not to be lewd) his belt was off, could there have been a woman involved?

    If the blows to his head were "weak" and (not to be lewd) his belt was off, could there have been a woman involved?

  • Ian

    Ian

    An object that might not fracture the skull but could drive someone down into a defensive position leaving open an opportunity to strangle would be the belt buckle which I believe was reported broken sounds like a crime of passion...I like Boyd

    An object that might not fracture the skull but could drive someone down into a defensive position leaving open an opportunity to strangle would be the belt buckle which I believe was reported broken
    sounds like a crime of passion...I like Boyd

  • Inspector Alex

    Inspector Alex Portland Oregon

    This case is crazy can you say false confession. The detective is totally feeding the information to Chuck.

    This case is crazy can you say false confession. The detective is totally feeding the information to Chuck.

  • Mark

    Mark Austin

    This case made me remember a quote from the movie A Thin Blue Line. "Any prosecutor can convict a guilty person, it takes a great prosecutor to convict an innocent person."

    This case made me remember a quote from the movie A Thin Blue Line. "Any prosecutor can convict a guilty person, it takes a great prosecutor to convict an innocent person."

  • Stacey Zimmerman

    Stacey Zimmerman Thousand Oaks, CA

    I'm so so thankful this poor kid was finally released from prison! I can't remember ever reading of a crime that ended in a guilty verdict of such an innocent young man. Since his trial, I've found many more stories that are similar, but in regards to this case, you have to wonder what the hell the jurors were thinking to come back with a guilty verdict... Not in my wildest imagination could I have understood why they found this young man guilty! It's so incredibly frightening, making the chances of anyone being found guilty of a crime they do obviously did not commit, a very REAL reality. Each time his appeals were denied, my heart broke a little bit more. I'm just so happy for both Ryan and his family that justice was finally found in his favor. He seems like he is pretty well adjusted himself back into society too, which can be hard if your guilty or not from what I've read. He still seems like the smart, handsome young man who was dealt such a raw blow. I hope he has a very happy life.

    I'm so so thankful this poor kid was finally released from prison! I can't remember ever reading of a crime that ended in a guilty verdict of such an innocent young man. Since his trial, I've found many more stories that are similar, but in regards to this case, you have to wonder what the hell the jurors were thinking to come back with a guilty verdict... Not in my wildest imagination could I have understood why they found this young man guilty! It's so incredibly frightening, making the chances of anyone being found guilty of a crime they do obviously did not commit, a very REAL reality.
    Each time his appeals were denied, my heart broke a little bit more. I'm just so happy for both Ryan and his family that justice was finally found in his favor. He seems like he is pretty well adjusted himself back into society too, which can be hard if your guilty or not from what I've read. He still seems like the smart, handsome young man who was dealt such a raw blow. I hope he has a very happy life.

  • Mark

    Mark Austin

    One of the best broadcasts you guys have done. It sure seems that lazy and corrupt police work was responsible for an innocent man losing his freedom. Have seen too many cases where prosecutors and police get away with so many injustices. You guys need to do the Michael Morton case that happened down here in the Austin'Round Rock area. You will be revolted by what the DA's office did.

    One of the best broadcasts you guys have done. It sure seems that lazy and corrupt police work was responsible for an innocent man losing his freedom. Have seen too many cases where prosecutors and police get away with so many injustices. You guys need to do the Michael Morton case that happened down here in the Austin'Round Rock area. You will be revolted by what the DA's office did.

  • Jess

    Jess Chicago

    It might just be me, but the sketch looks an awfully lot like Chuck. Hmmmm....

    It might just be me, but the sketch looks an awfully lot like Chuck. Hmmmm....

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Jess I thought so too. Nic

    Jess I thought so too.
    Nic

  • Jake

    Jake Parts known

    Didn't read all the comments so maybe someone already brought this up but I have a theory for the belt. I would have wrapped it around my hand if I was fighting multiple assailants. Extra mass for punching power and you have less of a chance to break your hand. Just a theory but, it also could have escalated the situation into making the assailants looking for blood making them kill him in the end. He used the belt to attack them so they used it to attack him.

    Didn't read all the comments so maybe someone already brought this up but I have a theory for the belt. I would have wrapped it around my hand if I was fighting multiple assailants. Extra mass for punching power and you have less of a chance to break your hand. Just a theory but, it also could have escalated the situation into making the assailants looking for blood making them kill him in the end. He used the belt to attack them so they used it to attack him.

  • Naomi

    Naomi

    Hello! I did not read all the comments on this episode. I am catching up on all your guys’ episodes and I just listened to this one today. So, this may be stupid, but have the authorities looked into articles that Kent wrote? Did he mention anyone and kind of put down their game? Like shame them in the paper? Thanks for doing the show guys! You guys are great!

    Hello! I did not read all the comments on this episode. I am catching up on all your guys’ episodes and I just listened to this one today. So, this may be stupid, but have the authorities looked into articles that Kent wrote? Did he mention anyone and kind of put down their game? Like shame them in the paper? Thanks for doing the show guys! You guys are great!

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Naomi that's an interesting thought surely he would have created some enemies from writing for the paper. I'm sure they looked into that but wouldn't think they would have traced that back too far. Assuming that if he had wrote something that someone felt so strongly about that they wanted to murder or beat the man they would most likely be reacting to something recent. That is not the sort of thing that you wait around on. Nic

    Naomi that's an interesting thought surely he would have created some enemies from writing for the paper. I'm sure they looked into that but wouldn't think they would have traced that back too far. Assuming that if he had wrote something that someone felt so strongly about that they wanted to murder or beat the man they would most likely be reacting to something recent. That is not the sort of thing that you wait around on. Nic

  • Steven

    Steven Madison, WI

    It might not even be something Kent wrote. Perhaps someone with a grudge against some recent article went down to the office and attacked the first employee they found.

    It might not even be something Kent wrote. Perhaps someone with a grudge against some recent article went down to the office and attacked the first employee they found.

  • Annonymous

    Annonymous Columbia, MO

    Grew up with this case, as Ryan was just a few years older than my sister. Thank you for covering it--I hope that justice is served some day, and the killer is found.

    Grew up with this case, as Ryan was just a few years older than my sister. Thank you for covering it--I hope that justice is served some day, and the killer is found.

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