The Colonial Parkway Murders /// 226 /// 227

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  • AJ

    AJ Rexburg, Idaho

    Diesel fuel IS kerosene.

    Diesel fuel IS kerosene.

  • Dina

    Dina Las Vegas

    Thank you so much for covering the Colonial Parkway Murders! Y’all made several good points, but the majority of us who lived and went to school with Sandy still to this day believe they are related to Colonial Parkway. Several of us were graduating that June. So our 30th Class Reunion, and any reunion for the class of 1988, reminds us of Sandy and the unsolved murders.

    Thank you so much for covering the Colonial Parkway Murders! Y’all made several good points, but the majority of us who lived and went to school with Sandy still to this day believe they are related to Colonial Parkway. Several of us were graduating that June. So our 30th Class Reunion, and any reunion for the class of 1988, reminds us of Sandy and the unsolved murders.

  • Chris

    Chris Unknown parts

    As a child growing up within miles of these cases something always sticks in my head. My mom coming home from work after midnight on interstate 64 in the mid 1980's was pulled over by a unmarked car with a blue light. When the "officer" approached and looked in the car he said that a car matching her cars description had been reported stolen and let her go. No questions asked no request for ID and obviously didn't run her tags. She didn't stop on the interstate but rather took the first exit and stopped in a hotel parking lot. After realizing how sketchy all this seemed my parents called the hampton and newport news police departments and were told no officers had reported traffic stops at that time and date. I truly feel like this may have been connected and may have been the technique the murderer used to gain control in these cases.

    As a child growing up within miles of these cases something always sticks in my head. My mom coming home from work after midnight on interstate 64 in the mid 1980's was pulled over by a unmarked car with a blue light. When the "officer" approached and looked in the car he said that a car matching her cars description had been reported stolen and let her go. No questions asked no request for ID and obviously didn't run her tags. She didn't stop on the interstate but rather took the first exit and stopped in a hotel parking lot. After realizing how sketchy all this seemed my parents called the hampton and newport news police departments and were told no officers had reported traffic stops at that time and date. I truly feel like this may have been connected and may have been the technique the murderer used to gain control in these cases.

  • Mark

    Mark Tampa

    Sounds like could be like the btk killer where its sexually motivated but gets off more on forcing them then actual sex. And drives the car by the parkway but doesn't go further for recognition. Probably fake cop.

    Sounds like could be like the btk killer where its sexually motivated but gets off more on forcing them then actual sex. And drives the car by the parkway but doesn't go further for recognition. Probably fake cop.

  • mG

    mG tX

    60 mile radius, different methods of murder, each incident separated by a year (long cooling off period), then of course, at the end, you describe two suspects in two of the crimes that were not discussed previously that made a heck of a lot more sense in two of the cases. Maybe two of these cases were connected, maybe. The first crime seemed like a rage killing and very personal. One of the crimes smacked of a robbery. Two crimes seemed sexually motivated. I think in two of the crimes, some kind of law enforcement ruse was used. I think you had a duo at work, was required for transportation purposes. The Blackmon guy and the Kiwi probably worked together in two of the incidents. Now Nic, I was about to compliment the Captain for being better in recent months, but he regressed badly in these episodes, too many juvenile interruptions and ridiculous suggestions.

    60 mile radius, different methods of murder, each incident separated by a year (long cooling off period), then of course, at the end, you describe two suspects in two of the crimes that were not discussed previously that made a heck of a lot more sense in two of the cases. Maybe two of these cases were connected, maybe. The first crime seemed like a rage killing and very personal. One of the crimes smacked of a robbery. Two crimes seemed sexually motivated. I think in two of the crimes, some kind of law enforcement ruse was used. I think you had a duo at work, was required for transportation purposes. The Blackmon guy and the Kiwi probably worked together in two of the incidents. Now Nic, I was about to compliment the Captain for being better in recent months, but he regressed badly in these episodes, too many juvenile interruptions and ridiculous suggestions.

  • Reb

    Reb DC

    Thank you for these episodes. I have a clarification question: is there a DNA profile from the hair? And, if so, could you explain why the families are upset about the derth of DNA testing? I am genuinely confused!

    Thank you for these episodes. I have a clarification question: is there a DNA profile from the hair? And, if so, could you explain why the families are upset about the derth of DNA testing? I am genuinely confused!

  • Mike

    Mike Harrisburg

    Chris growing up in Newport News you always heard about these murders. The local "urban legend" was about a guy in an unmarked car pulling people over but you really didn't think much of it and marked it up to something like ghost on Crawford Road. I remember when I first met my wife around 2011 she thought it would be fun to drive out to the Parkway and watch the fireworks at Busch Gardens. She wasn't from the area and had never heard about these killings and got a little mad at me when I made it clear as day I would not go on the Parkway at night and I never wanted her to do so either. Yeah it may have been a huge overreaction on my part but I wasn't taking any chances.

    Chris growing up in Newport News you always heard about these murders. The local "urban legend" was about a guy in an unmarked car pulling people over but you really didn't think much of it and marked it up to something like ghost on Crawford Road. I remember when I first met my wife around 2011 she thought it would be fun to drive out to the Parkway and watch the fireworks at Busch Gardens. She wasn't from the area and had never heard about these killings and got a little mad at me when I made it clear as day I would not go on the Parkway at night and I never wanted her to do so either. Yeah it may have been a huge overreaction on my part but I wasn't taking any chances.

  • C Kirk

    C Kirk

    "Lock your doors. Be safe. And don't get murdered." Sounds like a t-shirt to me!

    "Lock your doors. Be safe. And don't get murdered."
    Sounds like a t-shirt to me!

  • Amber

    Amber Oregon

    I agree with Chris. It seems likely that these couples were pulled over by law enforcement. (Or somebody pretending to be LE). A glovebox open, keys still in the ignition, purses out, drivers window down.... come on! It just seems like as a society we shy away from this conclusion.

    I agree with Chris. It seems likely that these couples were pulled over by law enforcement. (Or somebody pretending to be LE). A glovebox open, keys still in the ignition, purses out, drivers window down.... come on! It just seems like as a society we shy away from this conclusion.

  • Smitty

    Smitty Atlanta

    Really sounds like two different kiers to me. Thanks for a great podcast, one of your best. Peace.

    Really sounds like two different kiers to me. Thanks for a great podcast, one of your best. Peace.

  • Don

    Don Eastern US

    I don't know whether I can handle Nic butchering English anymore. If I have to hear that someone "had went" any place one more time, I will lose all interest in this podcast. Just a grammar Nazi checking in here. Also, way too verbose. Get to the point guys. Cheers!

    I don't know whether I can handle Nic butchering English anymore. If I have to hear that someone "had went" any place one more time, I will lose all interest in this podcast. Just a grammar Nazi checking in here. Also, way too verbose. Get to the point guys. Cheers!

  • Jaimie

    Jaimie Easton pa

    Great job on the episode. I was wondering if you think its possible that the killer simply said he just wanted to rob them. So with a gun he ordered one to tie up the other. Like the captain said if you love someone then you wouldn't move etc. The notion that he would have his hands full or why did the other one just sit there is silly to me. Maybe it's that simple, just one man. One man who said tie her up or I'll kill her. Sad story for so many. I hope the families can get some justice.

    Great job on the episode. I was wondering if you think its possible that the killer simply said he just wanted to rob them. So with a gun he ordered one to tie up the other. Like the captain said if you love someone then you wouldn't move etc. The notion that he would have his hands full or why did the other one just sit there is silly to me. Maybe it's that simple, just one man. One man who said tie her up or I'll kill her. Sad story for so many. I hope the families can get some justice.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    @ Reb - there is no clear public understand on what, if any dna they have in these cases. They could have dna from the hair or may not. To pull dna from hair they need the follicles or a patch of skin. It has been publicly stated by an individual named in these episodes that they have dna in 3 of these cases. What is not clear is the following.... Does the dna link the three cases? Or two cases? Or is it all different? What cases do we have dna from? If this is a serial offender there is much debate on how many cases do we have - in my opinion from cases I have reviewed we are talking about 2 cases to as many as 9 cases. So again, I want to know what cases. I might be able to figure that out soon - if so I’ll announce on Off The Record Cheers Nic

    @ Reb - there is no clear public understand on what, if any dna they have in these cases. They could have dna from the hair or may not. To pull dna from hair they need the follicles or a patch of skin. It has been publicly stated by an individual named in these episodes that they have dna in 3 of these cases. What is not clear is the following....
    Does the dna link the three cases? Or two cases? Or is it all different?
    What cases do we have dna from? If this is a serial offender there is much debate on how many cases do we have - in my opinion from cases I have reviewed we are talking about 2 cases to as many as 9 cases. So again, I want to know what cases. I might be able to figure that out soon - if so I’ll announce on Off The Record
    Cheers Nic

  • Kathleen

    Kathleen Chicago

    Nic and Captain, don't listen to Don. The charm of your podcast is strengthened by your way of speaking. Don't get to the point too quick. Keep it fun. You remain my favorite podcast. Big hugs and deep bows.

    Nic and Captain, don't listen to Don. The charm of your podcast is strengthened by your way of speaking. Don't get to the point too quick. Keep it fun. You remain my favorite podcast. Big hugs and deep bows.

  • Louise H

    Louise H Michigan

    This was a really well done podcast. I've never heard of these murders but like others mentioned, it sounds like someone was pretending to be law enforcement in at least couple of these cases. And I agree, he tied up one at gunpoint and the other was made to comply or risk the other being killed. Not sure where I stand in terms of these being related. There were a lot of differences but how many young couples are killed or go missing yearly in one state? That just seems too coincidental.

    This was a really well done podcast. I've never heard of these murders but like others mentioned, it sounds like someone was pretending to be law enforcement in at least couple of these cases. And I agree, he tied up one at gunpoint and the other was made to comply or risk the other being killed. Not sure where I stand in terms of these being related. There were a lot of differences but how many young couples are killed or go missing yearly in one state? That just seems too coincidental.

  • sammie jo

    sammie jo eastern ky

    You guys did such a great job on this episode. Thanks.

    You guys did such a great job on this episode. Thanks.

  • Todd

    Todd

    Diesel is not kerosene but very similar.

    Diesel is not kerosene but very similar.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Thank you Todd, I didn't want to get technical with everyone but a lot of people were happy to tell us that they are the same thing. They are different grades of technically the same thing but not entirely the same. so when the investigator bounced from saying diesel fuel to kerosene several times within the same answer during an interview I thought was interesting. I wonder if either were in a slightly degraded state or diluted is it possible they can't determine which it would be? just a thought, always thinking... Nic

    Thank you Todd, I didn't want to get technical with everyone but a lot of people were happy to tell us that they are the same thing. They are different grades of technically the same thing but not entirely the same. so when the investigator bounced from saying diesel fuel to kerosene several times within the same answer during an interview I thought was interesting. I wonder if either were in a slightly degraded state or diluted is it possible they can't determine which it would be? just a thought, always thinking...
    Nic

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