The Invisible Man ////// 301

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  • Matt

    Matt Northern Virginia

    I felt like I had heard a similar story before, and I was correct: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Newton_Chandler_III Some of this guy's story are eerily similar to that of "Paul Raymond Harrod." Both men stole the identity of a young boy killed in an automobile accident in the 1940s. Both men had no known family. And there's the east side of Cleveland connection that the detective referenced: this guy died in Eastlake, the elder Harrod having passed away in a nursing home on the east side of Cleveland. A lot of coincidences, and probably only that, but you have to wonder if the two men - "Chandler" and "Harrod" - knew of each other somehow.

    I felt like I had heard a similar story before, and I was correct: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Newton_Chandler_III

    Some of this guy's story are eerily similar to that of "Paul Raymond Harrod." Both men stole the identity of a young boy killed in an automobile accident in the 1940s. Both men had no known family. And there's the east side of Cleveland connection that the detective referenced: this guy died in Eastlake, the elder Harrod having passed away in a nursing home on the east side of Cleveland.

    A lot of coincidences, and probably only that, but you have to wonder if the two men - "Chandler" and "Harrod" - knew of each other somehow.

  • SB

    SB

    Sort of lame you tell us to visit the website to see pictures of this guy because law enforcement needs our help yet I have looked around for 10 minutes and can't find any photos of him. Also didn't see a photo of him on your IG, despite it being cluttered with juvenile posts. I did see a strange video with music, but no way to fast forward. This isn't very helpful, because law enforcement actually reached out to you and asked for help, I think you should have done more to put this guy's face somewhere. Luckily google helped me out. Here are my thoughts. 1. If this mystery person was actually on the run from the police and was tipped off they were about to "close in on him" where he was living with his new wife, can't someone in law enforcement see if there were any investigations, local or federal, linked to someone in that area. It seems reasonable that if he was running from the police and knew the police were about to move in on him, someone, somewhere in law enforcement would know this and speak up and remember something. 2. Was this person well-read, intelligent, or some backwoods bumpkin? Is it possible that he worked in intelligence for the Airforce (AFOSI) and got mixed up in some espionage and had to go off the grid? Remember, he told his wife he "knew how to disappear" so perhaps he had some kind of training above and beyond a simple airman and that career or former career caught up with him. Think double agent, or rogue agent. 3. There was an assumption that this person previously worked at a nursing home and possibly used inside knowledge and a relationship from that job to help steal his identity. This could be true, but as it was also mentioned, he couldn't be tied to the area. Perhaps, though, he was working in a nursing home later in life in hopes of being able to steal a new identity for his next move. So maybe we case targeting his next family or trying to gather the needed information to get more identities. Gut instinct: This guy was not tipped off about the police, because if that were true there would be police officers on record looking for someone in that area. Since law enforcement failed to ultimately get him, it seems like agencies would take note of this. "Ah, look at Paul Raymond Harrod's photo, that's actually Jeff Smith, the bank robber we tried to move in on back in Hamilton County..." So whoever was in those photos was not on police radar otherwise they would have been able to put 2 and 2 together even if they didn't have his name. Conclusion: Gambler with large debits, i.e., the casino. He was trying to live off the grid until he found out he was in danger, then he fled. Or, he was a career intel guy, perhaps a double agent laying low trying to avoid some kind of trouble before getting his next set of instructions.

    Sort of lame you tell us to visit the website to see pictures of this guy because law enforcement needs our help yet I have looked around for 10 minutes and can't find any photos of him. Also didn't see a photo of him on your IG, despite it being cluttered with juvenile posts. I did see a strange video with music, but no way to fast forward. This isn't very helpful, because law enforcement actually reached out to you and asked for help, I think you should have done more to put this guy's face somewhere. Luckily google helped me out. Here are my thoughts.

    1. If this mystery person was actually on the run from the police and was tipped off they were about to "close in on him" where he was living with his new wife, can't someone in law enforcement see if there were any investigations, local or federal, linked to someone in that area. It seems reasonable that if he was running from the police and knew the police were about to move in on him, someone, somewhere in law enforcement would know this and speak up and remember something.

    2. Was this person well-read, intelligent, or some backwoods bumpkin? Is it possible that he worked in intelligence for the Airforce (AFOSI) and got mixed up in some espionage and had to go off the grid? Remember, he told his wife he "knew how to disappear" so perhaps he had some kind of training above and beyond a simple airman and that career or former career caught up with him. Think double agent, or rogue agent.

    3. There was an assumption that this person previously worked at a nursing home and possibly used inside knowledge and a relationship from that job to help steal his identity. This could be true, but as it was also mentioned, he couldn't be tied to the area. Perhaps, though, he was working in a nursing home later in life in hopes of being able to steal a new identity for his next move. So maybe we case targeting his next family or trying to gather the needed information to get more identities.

    Gut instinct: This guy was not tipped off about the police, because if that were true there would be police officers on record looking for someone in that area. Since law enforcement failed to ultimately get him, it seems like agencies would take note of this. "Ah, look at Paul Raymond Harrod's photo, that's actually Jeff Smith, the bank robber we tried to move in on back in Hamilton County..." So whoever was in those photos was not on police radar otherwise they would have been able to put 2 and 2 together even if they didn't have his name.

    Conclusion: Gambler with large debits, i.e., the casino. He was trying to live off the grid until he found out he was in danger, then he fled. Or, he was a career intel guy, perhaps a double agent laying low trying to avoid some kind of trouble before getting his next set of instructions.

  • Minna Bolt

    Minna Bolt Parsons, Ks

    Are we sure the supposed ex wife’s middle name is Rae??? What if it was her last name??? There are quite a few “Rae’s” in Kansas... including a Diane Rae in Wichita, Ks ( I found her on Facebook ).

    Are we sure the supposed ex wife’s middle name is Rae??? What if it was her last name??? There are quite a few “Rae’s” in Kansas... including a Diane Rae in Wichita, Ks ( I found her on Facebook ).

  • Sabrina

    Sabrina Tampa, FL

    Wow, this case is frustrating, and very interesting. "Paul" may have been very good at telling his lies, that they became truth to him. So maybe he didn't really mess up that often. I understand Marla moving on, cause to her he left her, but I can't understand not wanting to know what happened, unless she did know more than what she said. And I am not saying she did something or is a bad person, but maybe he disappeared cause someone was after him, and maybe she was protecting him. But even if she only knew what she said that he left her a Dear John note, still wouldn't you want to know what happened? I also feel there is something to the identity "Paul" took, and the real Paul/Skippy dad in the ASL. Back then, was it that easy to get someone's identity? There wasn't the internet, people probably paid in cash for things, so not as easy as today to steal someone's identity. And I wonder, was he someone else before he was "Paul"? How long had he been using different identities? Or did something happen while he was possibly working in the ASL where Skippy's dad was, and he needed a new identity fast. You guys were hitting on something at the end, what if he is some serial killer, and he moves on with a new identity when he needs to? It will be very interesting if and when they can find his previous wife, and what his name was then, will it really be his name, or someone else he stole? Goodness, this is an interesting one, someone has to know something, will they come forward, and are they even still alive?

    Wow, this case is frustrating, and very interesting. "Paul" may have been very good at telling his lies, that they became truth to him. So maybe he didn't really mess up that often. I understand Marla moving on, cause to her he left her, but I can't understand not wanting to know what happened, unless she did know more than what she said. And I am not saying she did something or is a bad person, but maybe he disappeared cause someone was after him, and maybe she was protecting him. But even if she only knew what she said that he left her a Dear John note, still wouldn't you want to know what happened?

    I also feel there is something to the identity "Paul" took, and the real Paul/Skippy dad in the ASL. Back then, was it that easy to get someone's identity? There wasn't the internet, people probably paid in cash for things, so not as easy as today to steal someone's identity. And I wonder, was he someone else before he was "Paul"? How long had he been using different identities? Or did something happen while he was possibly working in the ASL where Skippy's dad was, and he needed a new identity fast.

    You guys were hitting on something at the end, what if he is some serial killer, and he moves on with a new identity when he needs to? It will be very interesting if and when they can find his previous wife, and what his name was then, will it really be his name, or someone else he stole? Goodness, this is an interesting one, someone has to know something, will they come forward, and are they even still alive?

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Sorry there has been some confusion and trouble with posting Paul's pictures. We will get them up. Cheers Nic

    Sorry there has been some confusion and trouble with posting Paul's pictures.
    We will get them up.
    Cheers Nic

  • David

    David Ohio

    Could he have been someone under witness protection?

    Could he have been someone under witness protection?

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    "Paul's" picture is now up. The picture posted was taken at the Thanksgiving get together the day before he went missing. Sorry for the delay. Cheers Nic

    "Paul's" picture is now up. The picture posted was taken at the Thanksgiving get together the day before he went missing.
    Sorry for the delay.
    Cheers Nic

  • Abby H

    Abby H

    I’m curious as to what interesting info Marla’s sister Kim provided Detective Lockhart? It’s not clear to me if Kim provides the info about the casino or if Kim’s info was accidentally skipped over in the episode? About 35:30 mark. Thanks!

    I’m curious as to what interesting info Marla’s sister Kim provided Detective Lockhart? It’s not clear to me if Kim provides the info about the casino or if Kim’s info was accidentally skipped over in the episode? About 35:30 mark. Thanks!

  • Ashley

    Ashley SoDak

    I shouldn't listen to TCG before work. It's distracting. So I am also from a small town in South Dakota (about 3x the size of Hoven); my freshman roommate was actually from Hoven. Not surprisingly, my brain got stuck on the bank account opened there. I kind of wonder if it's just an insane coincidence (another person stealing an identity? Using the same name in 1992 before "Paul" had been reported missing? Without the internet?) but that seems even more unlikely than if he happened to go through there. However, there are problems with that, too... 1. Hoven isn't a place you land in by chance -- it's miles from anything on a two-lane highway with exactly one point of interest (an enormous cathedral that looks like it fell out of the sky onto a small town). Even if you didn't want to be found you wouldn't have to go that far off the beaten path, especially in South Dakota. 2. If you are unknown in town (or unknown within ten miles of there) you'd stand out like a sore thumb. These aren't just places where everyone knows everyone -- everyone knows everyone else's family trees, stories, traumas, high school sweethearts, and all the rest of it. 3. If you walked into the bank to open an account, the people working there would probably remember you. Maybe not 26 years later, but at the time it might have been a story. There could be some exceptions. If he'd been working for someone there on a short-term basis, he'd stand out a lot less. (Which would be much more normal in spring, summer, or fall, as it's prime farm country. Weirder in December.) If he had a friend in town who went in to the bank to set up the account for him, it wouldn't be remembered the same way. (I know that would be suspect now, but in '92 in a tiny town it could have been less weird. "I've got a buddy coming through town that needs to cash his paycheck so he can get gas. Can he do that here?") If he were from there, the teller would have known him and wondered who the hell Paul Harrod was -- unless he'd been living under that name for a lot longer chunk of time. The simplest answer to me is that he knew someone in town. Maybe an old Air Force buddy who wasn't going to ask too many questions. Or a distant relative. It's a long shot, but someone up there might remember something.

    I shouldn't listen to TCG before work. It's distracting.

    So I am also from a small town in South Dakota (about 3x the size of Hoven); my freshman roommate was actually from Hoven. Not surprisingly, my brain got stuck on the bank account opened there. I kind of wonder if it's just an insane coincidence (another person stealing an identity? Using the same name in 1992 before "Paul" had been reported missing? Without the internet?) but that seems even more unlikely than if he happened to go through there. However, there are problems with that, too...

    1. Hoven isn't a place you land in by chance -- it's miles from anything on a two-lane highway with exactly one point of interest (an enormous cathedral that looks like it fell out of the sky onto a small town). Even if you didn't want to be found you wouldn't have to go that far off the beaten path, especially in South Dakota.
    2. If you are unknown in town (or unknown within ten miles of there) you'd stand out like a sore thumb. These aren't just places where everyone knows everyone -- everyone knows everyone else's family trees, stories, traumas, high school sweethearts, and all the rest of it.
    3. If you walked into the bank to open an account, the people working there would probably remember you. Maybe not 26 years later, but at the time it might have been a story.

    There could be some exceptions. If he'd been working for someone there on a short-term basis, he'd stand out a lot less. (Which would be much more normal in spring, summer, or fall, as it's prime farm country. Weirder in December.) If he had a friend in town who went in to the bank to set up the account for him, it wouldn't be remembered the same way. (I know that would be suspect now, but in '92 in a tiny town it could have been less weird. "I've got a buddy coming through town that needs to cash his paycheck so he can get gas. Can he do that here?")

    If he were from there, the teller would have known him and wondered who the hell Paul Harrod was -- unless he'd been living under that name for a lot longer chunk of time.

    The simplest answer to me is that he knew someone in town. Maybe an old Air Force buddy who wasn't going to ask too many questions. Or a distant relative. It's a long shot, but someone up there might remember something.

  • Whitney

    Whitney Charlotte, NC

    I don't feel this dude was murdered. I think this guy is doing what he can to fly under the radar. Do we know if he was paid under the table in these jobs? A W-2 will give your location away in no time, so I wonder if these various jobs were all cash payment. The phone call, the Dear John letter, ect say to me that whatever was said on the phone was his cue to get the hell out of town. The car was probably abandoned somewhere and picked up and auctioned in Colorado.

    I don't feel this dude was murdered. I think this guy is doing what he can to fly under the radar. Do we know if he was paid under the table in these jobs? A W-2 will give your location away in no time, so I wonder if these various jobs were all cash payment.
    The phone call, the Dear John letter, ect say to me that whatever was said on the phone was his cue to get the hell out of town.

    The car was probably abandoned somewhere and picked up and auctioned in Colorado.

  • Amy

    Amy Ohio

    I am from Noblesville, Indiana. I was in High School when this happened. Thoughts...maybe he opened up the bank account in Colorado to cash check for the car? Was the co-worker that stood up with him at the wedding ever interviewed? If so what did they have to say about him? Something had to have happened for him to jump ship and move on because if that was his intentions all this time, then what was the gain of getting married? He didn't gain anything-he gave her $100.00 and a note. I think he moved on and probably worked at another assisted living facility.

    I am from Noblesville, Indiana. I was in High School when this happened.
    Thoughts...maybe he opened up the bank account in Colorado to cash check for the car?

    Was the co-worker that stood up with him at the wedding ever interviewed? If so what did they have to say about him?

    Something had to have happened for him to jump ship and move on because if that was his intentions all this time, then what was the gain of getting married? He didn't gain anything-he gave her $100.00 and a note. I think he moved on and probably worked at another assisted living facility.

  • Reb

    Reb DC

    I want to second what Dave suggested, which is exactly what I thought by the end of the episode. I wish I could remember where I read this, but I swear I have heard that in a less sophisticated-electronic time, real dead kids identities were commonly used by the Marshalls to create new identities for relocated witnesses. And, not to be stereotypy but it would shed some light on the reference to living in the New York area and having a real mother who had an Italian last name: Coletti. A call from the Marshalls telling him he needs to get picked up for his safety, a random short appearance in a remote small town, and no further contact with his wife all fit. And, it would explain (although a lot of the other theories would as well) his laying-low at work and socially in Indiana. Finally, it’s the best explanation of his complete disappearance, which would have become increasingly hard as time went by. Fascinating case!

    I want to second what Dave suggested, which is exactly what I thought by the end of the episode. I wish I could remember where I read this, but I swear I have heard that in a less sophisticated-electronic time, real dead kids identities were commonly used by the Marshalls to create new identities for relocated witnesses.

    And, not to be stereotypy but it would shed some light on the reference to living in the New York area and having a real mother who had an Italian last name: Coletti.

    A call from the Marshalls telling him he needs to get picked up for his safety, a random short appearance in a remote small town, and no further contact with his wife all fit.

    And, it would explain (although a lot of the other theories would as well) his laying-low at work and socially in Indiana.

    Finally, it’s the best explanation of his complete disappearance, which would have become increasingly hard as time went by.

    Fascinating case!

  • Laura

    Laura Netherlands

    Can't find the exact minute where it was said: how was his mom's name he put on his marriage certificate spelled?

    Can't find the exact minute where it was said: how was his mom's name he put on his marriage certificate spelled?

  • Amy

    Amy Illinois

    I have a brother who changed his identity in the mid eighties. Due to drugs involving federal charges. He simply went to a graveyard looking for a child who died. Who was born in a similar year as him. If this is the case for invisible Man. Consider the graveyard and the town or towns surrounding for fugatives. I suspect my brother did it as much to put off prison as to run from the people he was involved with. They would have had him killed to keep things quiet. As far as the bank account. That simply could be to gain or maintain a p.o. box. At this point, if he is still around he could be using one name for particular correspondence and another for whomever he has chosen to be subsequent to his past identity.

    I have a brother who changed his identity in the mid eighties. Due to drugs involving federal charges.
    He simply went to a graveyard looking for a child who died. Who was born in a similar year as him.
    If this is the case for invisible Man. Consider the graveyard and the town or towns surrounding for fugatives.
    I suspect my brother did it as much to put off prison as to run from the people he was involved with. They would have had him killed to keep things quiet.
    As far as the bank account. That simply could be to gain or maintain a p.o. box.
    At this point, if he is still around he could be using one name for particular correspondence and another for whomever he has chosen to be subsequent to his past identity.

  • Amanda

    Amanda Maryland

    Weirded me out a bit when I heard the detective say that Paul had mentioned flying over Greenland in the Air Force, because I'd heard the same thing from an old man I met while at grad school up in Maine in 2010. But looking at Paul's picture, pretty sure it's not the same guy. Besides, you said Paul was a grump, and the man I met was very friendly. I think it's great that investigators see podcasts like yours as a valuable resource in helping get answers to cold cases.

    Weirded me out a bit when I heard the detective say that Paul had mentioned flying over Greenland in the Air Force, because I'd heard the same thing from an old man I met while at grad school up in Maine in 2010. But looking at Paul's picture, pretty sure it's not the same guy. Besides, you said Paul was a grump, and the man I met was very friendly.

    I think it's great that investigators see podcasts like yours as a valuable resource in helping get answers to cold cases.

  • Steve Playfor

    Steve Playfor UK

    Fellas Did the Invisible Man leave behind any potential sources of DNA?

    Fellas
    Did the Invisible Man leave behind any potential sources of DNA?

  • Tony Smyth

    Tony Smyth England - Kent

    Harrod does look a little like Richard Lepsy, who went missing in 1969 at the age of 33, which would have made him 56 in the year 1992. I don't mean that they look like twins, but there's a resemblance.

    Harrod does look a little like Richard Lepsy, who went missing in 1969 at the age of 33, which would have made him 56 in the year 1992. I don't mean that they look like twins, but there's a resemblance.

  • Kenneth Puccia

    Kenneth Puccia Westchester NY

    I went to Roosevelt HS in Yonkers, NY. I graduated in 1980. Paul’s picture doesn’t look familiar to me. However there is a “Roosevelt High School Alumni - Yonkers, NY” Facebook page. Maybe the detective could reach out through that page with the picture of Paul. You never know if someone will recognize him.

    I went to Roosevelt HS in Yonkers, NY. I graduated in 1980. Paul’s picture doesn’t look familiar to me. However there is a “Roosevelt High School Alumni - Yonkers, NY” Facebook page. Maybe the detective could reach out through that page with the picture of Paul. You never know if someone will recognize him.

  • Natasha

    Natasha Wisconsin

    Maybe someone could go through yearbooks for Roosevelt HS and see if they recognize him.

    Maybe someone could go through yearbooks for Roosevelt HS and see if they recognize him.

  • Carmen

    Carmen Illinois (IL)

    I just finished listening to this invisible man story. Have the cops gone to his house to get DNA off of a toothbrush or hair brush or anything in the house to enter into the data base to find out who this man is? Or even finger prints from the house he lived in?

    I just finished listening to this invisible man story. Have the cops gone to his house to get DNA off of a toothbrush or hair brush or anything in the house to enter into the data base to find out who this man is? Or even finger prints from the house he lived in?

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    From my understanding they have removed some of his items from the home. This happened just recently so a good deal of time has passed. I believe no DNA was found but they were still testing items for other evidence. I will be checking in with Detective Lockhart in a few weeks. Cheers Nic

    From my understanding they have removed some of his items from the home. This happened just recently so a good deal of time has passed. I believe no DNA was found but they were still testing items for other evidence. I will be checking in with Detective Lockhart in a few weeks.
    Cheers Nic

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