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  • Stacy

    Stacy Columbus, GA

    I really love this podcast because I love the sense of humor you guys bring to it and the way you tell the stories. I do have two comments this week though. First sometimes it seems like you guys aren’t listening to each other when you talk because Nic will say something and then the captain instantly asks a question about the thing you just said which is a little frustrating when you’re listening. But in this episode you guys had a question about Crystal and the cell phone. Now I don’t trust Crystal as far as I could throw her so I’m not defending her. But I will say that when you turn yourself phone off voicemail reacts differently than when your cell phone is on. It usually rings say four times and then voicemail picks up if your phone is on if your phone is turned off or it’s dead it usually only rings maybe twice or not at all and then go straight to voicemail so people do know the difference between whether your phone is on or off. And then you said something about it It seems like her phone magically went dead or got turned off after she dropped Crystal off on the side of the road. It isn’t magic. If Tony was angry then she’s going to turn her phone off so Crystal can’t call her. Maybe that’s a girl thing and you guys don’t realize it but that’s what a woman would do in most cases if she was really really angry especially if she’s been drinking and especially if she’s in a manic episode

    I really love this podcast because I love the sense of humor you guys bring to it and the way you tell the stories. I do have two comments this week though. First sometimes it seems like you guys aren’t listening to each other when you talk because Nic will say something and then the captain instantly asks a question about the thing you just said which is a little frustrating when you’re listening. But in this episode you guys had a question about Crystal and the cell phone. Now I don’t trust Crystal as far as I could throw her so I’m not defending her. But I will say that when you turn yourself phone off voicemail reacts differently than when your cell phone is on. It usually rings say four times and then voicemail picks up if your phone is on if your phone is turned off or it’s dead it usually only rings maybe twice or not at all and then go straight to voicemail so people do know the difference between whether your phone is on or off. And then you said something about it It seems like her phone magically went dead or got turned off after she dropped Crystal off on the side of the road. It isn’t magic. If Tony was angry then she’s going to turn her phone off so Crystal can’t call her. Maybe that’s a girl thing and you guys don’t realize it but that’s what a woman would do in most cases if she was really really angry especially if she’s been drinking and especially if she’s in a manic episode

  • Eo

    Eo Mo

    Just a heads up, you reference a date of 8-22-2019 in the episode but I think you meant 2009!

    Just a heads up, you reference a date of 8-22-2019 in the episode but I think you meant 2009!

  • BJ

    BJ Philly

    I drive past Hollow Road just about every day, and I think about this woman often. Though it's close to Philly, this part of the world (it's pronounced Glad-Win, with the emphasis on the "glad) is very dark at night. A lot of the streets look the same and it's easy to get lost. It's dense with trees and a lot of the twisty roads look the same, especially in the dark. There are lots of dead-ends and tiny street signs with faded lettering they won't change because "it's so quaint!" Even the signage for highways is often obscured by trees that don't get pruned and unless you know where you're going, well... getting lost or ending up on the Schuylkill (pronounced Skoo-kill or Skoo-Kull) heading in the wrong direction is easy to do. One of the saddest parts about this story is that there's a well-lit gas station and a small grocery store about 1.5 miles away. All she had to do was turn right on Hollow Road and then follow Route 23... which is the direction she should have been going anyway to get back home. But getting around here isn't intuitive, even to someone with a good sense of direction. It is quite the opposite of Camden - friendly and helpful. It does seem possible she drove around for a bit, wasting gas, getting lost, ended up in the city in the wrong direction, and fell into the wrong hands either with her car or after being separated from it. The other thing about cars being stolen... it's not always because they're desirable. Often they're taken for their parts. That's what chop shops do. The more common the car, the more likely they can sell the parts to someone who is likely to buy them. So if she ran out of gas and took off on foot looking for it, she could have found a bad fate. Meanwhile, her car could have been taken off the street, the plate "recycled" into Camden, and the parts spread out anywhere.

    I drive past Hollow Road just about every day, and I think about this woman often. Though it's close to Philly, this part of the world (it's pronounced Glad-Win, with the emphasis on the "glad) is very dark at night. A lot of the streets look the same and it's easy to get lost. It's dense with trees and a lot of the twisty roads look the same, especially in the dark. There are lots of dead-ends and tiny street signs with faded lettering they won't change because "it's so quaint!" Even the signage for highways is often obscured by trees that don't get pruned and unless you know where you're going, well... getting lost or ending up on the Schuylkill (pronounced Skoo-kill or Skoo-Kull) heading in the wrong direction is easy to do.

    One of the saddest parts about this story is that there's a well-lit gas station and a small grocery store about 1.5 miles away. All she had to do was turn right on Hollow Road and then follow Route 23... which is the direction she should have been going anyway to get back home. But getting around here isn't intuitive, even to someone with a good sense of direction. It is quite the opposite of Camden - friendly and helpful.

    It does seem possible she drove around for a bit, wasting gas, getting lost, ended up in the city in the wrong direction, and fell into the wrong hands either with her car or after being separated from it.

    The other thing about cars being stolen... it's not always because they're desirable. Often they're taken for their parts. That's what chop shops do. The more common the car, the more likely they can sell the parts to someone who is likely to buy them. So if she ran out of gas and took off on foot looking for it, she could have found a bad fate. Meanwhile, her car could have been taken off the street, the plate "recycled" into Camden, and the parts spread out anywhere.

  • Jeff

    Jeff Opelika AL

    Been a fan a long time...have listened to every episode. But with each passing episode, you slowly have become speculation garage. And Nic....please reign in the captain. Being a true crime junkie and an avid listener of several true crime podcasts, I was appalled by the captain in one of the recent episodes. He basically vouched for cops to use their "gut"... apparently a cop interviewing suspects for 10 years gives them superpowers. That's how innocent people go to prison. That's so disappointing to hear from a host of True Crime Garage. I'd be much happier if all law enforcement and true crime hosts would stick to the evidence. And I have to agree with the cops on the note. If the sender were legit, why wouldn't they send the social security card? L

    Been a fan a long time...have listened to every episode. But with each passing episode, you slowly have become speculation garage. And Nic....please reign in the captain. Being a true crime junkie and an avid listener of several true crime podcasts, I was appalled by the captain in one of the recent episodes. He basically vouched for cops to use their "gut"... apparently a cop interviewing suspects for 10 years gives them superpowers. That's how innocent people go to prison. That's so disappointing to hear from a host of True Crime Garage. I'd be much happier if all law enforcement and true crime hosts would stick to the evidence. And I have to agree with the cops on the note. If the sender were legit, why wouldn't they send the social security card? L

  • Nicole

    Nicole Miami, FL

    You guys scared the crap out of me when you said the events happened in "August 22nd of 2019". I was thinking either I'm completely crazy thinking that date hasn't happened yet or you guys have had too many beers in that garage!

    You guys scared the crap out of me when you said the events happened in "August 22nd of 2019". I was thinking either I'm completely crazy thinking that date hasn't happened yet or you guys have had too many beers in that garage!

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Apologize - August 22-23, 2019 is the 10 year anny is next week. We talk too much! My apologies to the family! Nic

    Apologize - August 22-23, 2019 is the 10 year anny is next week. We talk too much! My apologies to the family!
    Nic

  • Nicole

    Nicole Pittsburgh

    I wonder if the “hoax” calls/maybe letter could be someone trying to keep the case relevant (hence 4 years later when it has gone cold) in a super strange manner. Maybe someone who knew & cared for Toni OR someone involved that night who feels guilty.

    I wonder if the “hoax” calls/maybe letter could be someone trying to keep the case relevant (hence 4 years later when it has gone cold) in a super strange manner. Maybe someone who knew & cared for Toni OR someone involved that night who feels guilty.

  • Cb

    Cb Parts unknown

    About the letter- I think it's sure possible in her drunk, manic state Toni was stopped by a cop- but wouldn't a cop be smart enough to get rid of the social security card rather than pass it to someone who then passes it to the letter writer?

    About the letter- I think it's sure possible in her drunk, manic state Toni was stopped by a cop- but wouldn't a cop be smart enough to get rid of the social security card rather than pass it to someone who then passes it to the letter writer?

  • Jesse

    Jesse Phoenix AZ

    Is it driving anyone else nuts listening to this that Nick keeps saying “VIN number ”? A VIN is a Vehicle Identification Number saying VIN number is redundant it’s like saying PIN number. Love the show and not trying to be over critical but come on you’re better than this guys.

    Is it driving anyone else nuts listening to this that Nick keeps saying “VIN number ”? A VIN is a Vehicle Identification Number saying VIN number is redundant it’s like saying PIN number. Love the show and not trying to be over critical but come on you’re better than this guys.

  • Martin

    Martin England

    This post isn't about the Toni Lee Sharpless shows (which I thought were very good) but about the Amy Mihaljevic case. You did a two-part update on it before crimecon, but you did say that that there was still more to discuss, mainly regarding the suspects. Are there any plans to cover that discussion? It may be better suited to the Off The Record show, but it would be good to hear Nic's views.

    This post isn't about the Toni Lee Sharpless shows (which I thought were very good) but about the Amy Mihaljevic case. You did a two-part update on it before crimecon, but you did say that that there was still more to discuss, mainly regarding the suspects. Are there any plans to cover that discussion? It may be better suited to the Off The Record show, but it would be good to hear Nic's views.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Thanks Martin - yes we will do this and on the main feed and I'm hoping soon too! Jesse - I appreciate your wisdom and you are absolutely right about it being redundant but I do say PIN number sometimes as well - so no, I'm not better than that. Cheers Martin and Jesse! Nic

    Thanks Martin - yes we will do this and on the main feed and I'm hoping soon too!
    Jesse - I appreciate your wisdom and you are absolutely right about it being redundant but I do say PIN number sometimes as well - so no, I'm not better than that.
    Cheers Martin and Jesse!
    Nic

  • Richard

    Richard Netherlands

    One would certainly have a word with these hoaxer(s) in the off chance it's the killer taunting the police, however I don't put much weight on it. It happens all the time. False confessions, false tips, hoaxers claiming to be the killer. Tell me something that's in the car that's really mundane but also unique. "There was a pink comb in the glove compartment". Not info that can be found with some sleuthing. That couple using IDs for her and another missing person, that's a really bad sign. Would indicate a killer living in the gutter. Car to a chop-shop, hanging on to the ID info till the heat dies off a little, exploiting her murder to the last penny. It's just speculation of course but that seems a plausible scenario. She ran into some low life thug. He infers from her rambling no-one knows she there and that's his green light. Might have tried to rape her and ended up in murder, not really important. What's important in this scenario there is no connection between victim and murderer. Finding those people who used her ID might have lead somewhere. Who did they buy the info from (if they did). No connection cases are the hardest. One can only hope for some lucky lead, some witness, someone running their mouth etc.

    One would certainly have a word with these hoaxer(s) in the off chance it's the killer taunting the police, however I don't put much weight on it. It happens all the time. False confessions, false tips, hoaxers claiming to be the killer. Tell me something that's in the car that's really mundane but also unique. "There was a pink comb in the glove compartment". Not info that can be found with some sleuthing.

    That couple using IDs for her and another missing person, that's a really bad sign. Would indicate a killer living in the gutter. Car to a chop-shop, hanging on to the ID info till the heat dies off a little, exploiting her murder to the last penny. It's just speculation of course but that seems a plausible scenario. She ran into some low life thug. He infers from her rambling no-one knows she there and that's his green light. Might have tried to rape her and ended up in murder, not really important.
    What's important in this scenario there is no connection between victim and murderer. Finding those people who used her ID might have lead somewhere. Who did they buy the info from (if they did).
    No connection cases are the hardest. One can only hope for some lucky lead, some witness, someone running their mouth etc.

  • Amanda

    Amanda Maryland

    Hi BJ in Philly-- I'm originally from that general area and I'm glad you beat me to giving them the Pennsylvania Pronunciation Key, lol. I think Nic actually did pretty well with Schuylkill. However, I also want to let them know that "Reading, PA" is pronounced like "redding." So my thoughts on the letter... I'm not an expert, but if you took that to a police station, even if it wasn't their case, wouldn't they direct you to the proper police station? I wouldn't expect the police to direct someone to the private investigator, which is one thing that makes me question that person's story. Also, as you guys pointed out, it offered very little helpful information. Basically, that the car was taken to Boston. Like you said, it was weird that they claimed to have the social security card but didn't provide the number as proof. I don't know how hard it is to get VIN numbers, but since they only provided part of it, I do wonder if they just tracked down whatever information they could and then tried to offer it as "proof." The sad thing here is that Toni was in an unfamiliar area in a VERY compromised state... drunk, and not taking her medication. I take citalopram (Celexa) for anxiety. And if I just stop taking it for a few days, I become an emotional wreck. I don't know if her meds do that, but you definitely don't want to mess around with mental health medications. That's why, when her family says she would never hurt herself... well, maybe not in the right mindset. But she was compromised on multiple levels and may have done something she wouldn't normally do. I'm not saying she definitely hurt/killed herself, but that I'm not sure you can rule out actions she "normally" wouldn't do.

    Hi BJ in Philly-- I'm originally from that general area and I'm glad you beat me to giving them the Pennsylvania Pronunciation Key, lol. I think Nic actually did pretty well with Schuylkill. However, I also want to let them know that "Reading, PA" is pronounced like "redding."

    So my thoughts on the letter... I'm not an expert, but if you took that to a police station, even if it wasn't their case, wouldn't they direct you to the proper police station? I wouldn't expect the police to direct someone to the private investigator, which is one thing that makes me question that person's story. Also, as you guys pointed out, it offered very little helpful information. Basically, that the car was taken to Boston. Like you said, it was weird that they claimed to have the social security card but didn't provide the number as proof. I don't know how hard it is to get VIN numbers, but since they only provided part of it, I do wonder if they just tracked down whatever information they could and then tried to offer it as "proof."

    The sad thing here is that Toni was in an unfamiliar area in a VERY compromised state... drunk, and not taking her medication. I take citalopram (Celexa) for anxiety. And if I just stop taking it for a few days, I become an emotional wreck. I don't know if her meds do that, but you definitely don't want to mess around with mental health medications. That's why, when her family says she would never hurt herself... well, maybe not in the right mindset. But she was compromised on multiple levels and may have done something she wouldn't normally do. I'm not saying she definitely hurt/killed herself, but that I'm not sure you can rule out actions she "normally" wouldn't do.

  • joe

    joe dirt

    Quick wiki search of willie green reveals he is still in the league as an assistant coach. Never heard of him but seems to still be doing well. I highly doubt he had any involvement in this girls disappearance. I would have to say car wound up at chop shop somehow. As for the girl, possible abduction, drug addiction, then sex trafficking all sounds very probable. Think we have all seen Taken. Once someone gets involved in those rings, it's damn near impossible to get out.

    Quick wiki search of willie green reveals he is still in the league as an assistant coach. Never heard of him but seems to still be doing well. I highly doubt he had any involvement in this girls disappearance.

    I would have to say car wound up at chop shop somehow. As for the girl, possible abduction, drug addiction, then sex trafficking all sounds very probable. Think we have all seen Taken. Once someone gets involved in those rings, it's damn near impossible to get out.

  • Matt

    Matt Virginia

    Regarding how someone could have her phone number and VIN if not an insider (e.g., law enforcement): whoever stole her identity could have easily found her VIN and phone number. My VIN is on my insurance and registration cards, both of which are connected to online accounts. My cell phone number is part of countless online accounts.

    Regarding how someone could have her phone number and VIN if not an insider (e.g., law enforcement): whoever stole her identity could have easily found her VIN and phone number. My VIN is on my insurance and registration cards, both of which are connected to online accounts. My cell phone number is part of countless online accounts.

  • Cathy

    Cathy Boston

    I'd like to hear more about the couple that was using her SSN at John Hopkins. Did the other man whose ID was stolen go missing around the same area and time as Toni? There most have been some co workers that remember the couple - was anyone interviewed at John Hopkins regarding the nurse and doctor? To me it sounds like a car jacking gone bad.. perhaps someone that steals identities then supplies them to others for a payout. Maybe she was abducted at a red light or stop sign than the car dismantled to destroy evidence. The stories about the cop and the basketball player seem more like the stuff of urban legends.

    I'd like to hear more about the couple that was using her SSN at John Hopkins. Did the other man whose ID was stolen go missing around the same area and time as Toni? There most have been some co workers that remember the couple - was anyone interviewed at John Hopkins regarding the nurse and doctor? To me it sounds like a car jacking gone bad.. perhaps someone that steals identities then supplies them to others for a payout. Maybe she was abducted at a red light or stop sign than the car dismantled to destroy evidence. The stories about the cop and the basketball player seem more like the stuff of urban legends.

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