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  • Cyndi

    Cyndi Tennessee

    Why haven't I ever heard of this happening?! First of all, I would like to apologize in advance, bc this post is going to be long and obnoxious. Unfortunately, I treat every episode like a challenge for my brain: it's definitely not a quality I'm particularly proud of so this is gonna be all over the place..... Good God, I have so many questions sprinkled with commentary. - Was there evidence of him being 100% that his wife cheated on him? if so, who was it? Do we know? (I doubt he would do something like this out of spite for his wife based on speculation or rumor without having any evidence.) If this wasn't a confirmed affair and he did something this extreme, then I think we could all agree he had mental issues. -- regardless, I think he was a troubled soul. - Where is the wife now and what is she up to? - Why were monkeys in bird cages? What kind of monkeys or bird cages are we talkin'? All of this sounds like a Sarah Mclachclan PSA with this couple at the center of CRAZY.....You can't love animals that were meant to play or roam the wild and keep them in cages. You just can't - it's sad, it's cruel and it's a selfish thing to do. (see documentaries like Blackfish) Yes, you might love them and think of them as "your children" but if that's the case, that automatically makes you either psycho or just a shitty animal-parent - meaning, you (individuals or corporations) are loving them for narcissistic reasons...all the wrong reasons, not the right ones. Those majestic animals paid the price at the end of the day from whatever this couple was lacking in their marriage, their overall mental status or all of the above. - He had money to pay for all of this but not a housekeeper or extra help? Was his house a disaster before he went to prison and his wife was just overwhelmed? Just curious from a psychology perspective - didn't want that to sound caddy. - What's John's background and what makes him qualified to take care of these exotic animals? - Did they ever roam? were they let out? what's the story? A white Siberian Tiger should never be accepted as a "House-cat". have you lost your F-ing mind?! Can you imagine a tiger casually strolling past you in a kitchen like NBD, in the middle of a conversation?! I'd poop my pants instantaneously. Unacceptable. Not cool. Those people are CRAZY. - What was their background or history of their relationship with John? Was he a telemarketer that got bored and took a stab at LION/GRIZZLY BEAR WRANGLING? Was he the affair or is that still unknown? - What was their history in the exotic animal world? Did they go on a safari and because they had some money to burn, they just said 'hey, these are beautiful, I'll take one of each...' - Where in the hell do you go to buy these exotic animals? Certainly it's not Amazon Prime. Are there private mills out there cranking out animals to sell or is this some weird underground adoption for zoo animal rejects? Dark Web? All 3? (i haven't googled this yet so I'm just throwin' it out there) -If that's the case, why aren't THOSE people being held accountable? What are their standards and screening process to sell/adopt? Are they policed? What's the application process? Does one exist? Is there a mental screening? Was it a one-stop shop sitch or were they acquired from multiple, possibly shady resources? Hell, even when you go to adopt a dog, there's usually a site visit and follow-up. I feel like whoever is legally licensed to sell these animals should be the very first ones in line to prove their integrity and intention behind their operation. They should be held accountable and investigated; they are partially responsible. - At what age did he adopt these animals and/or how long did he have them? timeline? 1 wolf, then 2 monkeys, then lions, then, tigers.. (I go to OH MY, every time) Grizzly Bear....ADD TO CART... - I haven't seen the pics of this private compound but depending on the layout, how he could he cut everything so all 50+ animals have a way out, and then have time to shoot himself prior to being mauled/attacked? - How many tigers or types of tigers did he have? Is the white tiger the one that ate him - the cool cat in the kitchen? Was he litter trained? that's a legit question. All of this is very very sad to me. To the people that think this was a conspiracy my best guess is, they have a ranch of lions and tigers with a lot of illegal weaponry and no degree related to zoology. Unless you're licensed as a legit, funded animal sanctuary, you have no business "dabbling" in this dangerous field unless you're a trained professional. The authorities had no choice but to do what they did in that situation in the spirit of public safety. Although it was a very sad outcome, if I'm drunk dude in a bar, and I put a lion down for the sake of saving A LOT of other lives, I just might take the opportunity to brag about doing such if it was my only course of action...and it sounds like it was. Sometimes you tap into a coping skill and channel your inner- Silver Lining Sally to make the best story out of a HORRIBLE situation/crisis. But who knows - that's just my take and outlook on something terrible that happened.

    Why haven't I ever heard of this happening?!
    First of all, I would like to apologize in advance, bc this post is going to be long and obnoxious. Unfortunately, I treat every episode like a challenge for my brain: it's definitely not a quality I'm particularly proud of so this is gonna be all over the place..... Good God, I have so many questions sprinkled with commentary.
    - Was there evidence of him being 100% that his wife cheated on him? if so, who was it? Do we know? (I doubt he would do something like this out of spite for his wife based on speculation or rumor without having any evidence.) If this wasn't a confirmed affair and he did something this extreme, then I think we could all agree he had mental issues. -- regardless, I think he was a troubled soul.
    - Where is the wife now and what is she up to?
    - Why were monkeys in bird cages? What kind of monkeys or bird cages are we talkin'? All of this sounds like a Sarah Mclachclan PSA with this couple at the center of CRAZY.....You can't love animals that were meant to play or roam the wild and keep them in cages. You just can't - it's sad, it's cruel and it's a selfish thing to do. (see documentaries like Blackfish) Yes, you might love them and think of them as "your children" but if that's the case, that automatically makes you either psycho or just a shitty animal-parent - meaning, you (individuals or corporations) are loving them for narcissistic reasons...all the wrong reasons, not the right ones. Those majestic animals paid the price at the end of the day from whatever this couple was lacking in their marriage, their overall mental status or all of the above.
    - He had money to pay for all of this but not a housekeeper or extra help? Was his house a disaster before he went to prison and his wife was just overwhelmed? Just curious from a psychology perspective - didn't want that to sound caddy.
    - What's John's background and what makes him qualified to take care of these exotic animals?
    - Did they ever roam? were they let out? what's the story? A white Siberian Tiger should never be accepted as a "House-cat". have you lost your F-ing mind?! Can you imagine a tiger casually strolling past you in a kitchen like NBD, in the middle of a conversation?! I'd poop my pants instantaneously. Unacceptable. Not cool. Those people are CRAZY.
    - What was their background or history of their relationship with John? Was he a telemarketer that got bored and took a stab at LION/GRIZZLY BEAR WRANGLING? Was he the affair or is that still unknown?
    - What was their history in the exotic animal world? Did they go on a safari and because they had some money to burn, they just said 'hey, these are beautiful, I'll take one of each...'
    - Where in the hell do you go to buy these exotic animals? Certainly it's not Amazon Prime. Are there private mills out there cranking out animals to sell or is this some weird underground adoption for zoo animal rejects? Dark Web? All 3? (i haven't googled this yet so I'm just throwin' it out there)
    -If that's the case, why aren't THOSE people being held accountable? What are their standards and screening process to sell/adopt? Are they policed? What's the application process? Does one exist? Is there a mental screening? Was it a one-stop shop sitch or were they acquired from multiple, possibly shady resources? Hell, even when you go to adopt a dog, there's usually a site visit and follow-up. I feel like whoever is legally licensed to sell these animals should be the very first ones in line to prove their integrity and intention behind their operation. They should be held accountable and investigated; they are partially responsible.
    - At what age did he adopt these animals and/or how long did he have them? timeline? 1 wolf, then 2 monkeys, then lions, then, tigers.. (I go to OH MY, every time) Grizzly Bear....ADD TO CART...
    - I haven't seen the pics of this private compound but depending on the layout, how he could he cut everything so all 50+ animals have a way out, and then have time to shoot himself prior to being mauled/attacked?
    - How many tigers or types of tigers did he have? Is the white tiger the one that ate him - the cool cat in the kitchen? Was he litter trained? that's a legit question.
    All of this is very very sad to me.
    To the people that think this was a conspiracy my best guess is, they have a ranch of lions and tigers with a lot of illegal weaponry and no degree related to zoology. Unless you're licensed as a legit, funded animal sanctuary, you have no business "dabbling" in this dangerous field unless you're a trained professional. The authorities had no choice but to do what they did in that situation in the spirit of public safety. Although it was a very sad outcome, if I'm drunk dude in a bar, and I put a lion down for the sake of saving A LOT of other lives, I just might take the opportunity to brag about doing such if it was my only course of action...and it sounds like it was. Sometimes you tap into a coping skill and channel your inner- Silver Lining Sally to make the best story out of a HORRIBLE situation/crisis. But who knows - that's just my take and outlook on something terrible that happened.

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    @ Cyndi - I think I can answer some of your questions. 1. there is no 100% confirmation that his wife cheated on him - regardless I have to believe he felt 100% she did not love him anymore regardless of an affair. They were together a very long time 25-30 years. As said on the show I think this man was already troubled and depressed before going to prison. His marriage was falling apart before going to prison and once there his wife had little contact with him and if she visited him at all it was once or twice. He had a whole year to sit with nothing to do other than to let the thought of his ending marriage and losing "everything" soak in. He got out and he was broke. His marriage was over. His house, cars, property and animals were not well maintained or cared for during the year he was gone. I DO NOT approve of his actions on the day of his death or many during the course of his life - I'm simply stating what was going on in the year or so before he killed himself. Now let's address the animal questions.... Bird cages are the description used by persons on the scene. I have some friends that have raised exotic birds and the cages are quite large. I can say from photos I have seen of the Thompson property - the cages photographed (not sure I have seen all of the cages there) were of this larger nature. These typically are cages that I could stand up and walk around in. I'm 6'1 - so probably a 7 by 5 by 4ft cage. Again I don't agree with the cages but that gives you better insight and a clearer picture. Also we would need the Thompsons to give us a timeline of animals, I think the portion of the show that you may have missed is when we explained at the time there were very little to NO rules or regulations regarding owning these animals. John/wife neither had anything in their background to make them "qualified" to care for one or any of these animals. But again the law did not require that. You did not need to report owning one of these animals or 50 of these animals. There's no paper trail for the purchase of these animals. There were rules and regulations for owning dogs and cats but not exotic animals - there were no checks - there were no follow ups from breeders/sellers. It was only illegal to sell or transport cross state lines. That usually only resulted in a fine. I would like for more people to have been held accountable for this tragedy but we didn't have laws in place at the time to do so. Yes the white tiger was the one "messing" with his body after he died. I would wager a lot that none of these animals were house trained. The price for purchasing these types of animals is all over the shop so it would have been easier to acquire so many animals faster than most might think. His wife claimed they paid $30,000 for (them or these animals) it sounds like she means just for the two monkeys - I wonder if in the commotion someone didn't fully understand her statement. I read stories of people saying they (not the Thompson's) paid 10,12 and $15,000 for a single exotic animal depending on how hard it is to find the one you want. But I read several stories about many others who say - you can buy a lion cub for $300 if you know the right guy. They may have only paid $30,000 for their entire collection of 56 exotic animals. Thanks for posting- hope this clears some things up. Nic

    @ Cyndi - I think I can answer some of your questions.
    1. there is no 100% confirmation that his wife cheated on him - regardless I have to believe he felt 100% she did not love him anymore regardless of an affair. They were together a very long time 25-30 years. As said on the show I think this man was already troubled and depressed before going to prison. His marriage was falling apart before going to prison and once there his wife had little contact with him and if she visited him at all it was once or twice. He had a whole year to sit with nothing to do other than to let the thought of his ending marriage and losing "everything" soak in. He got out and he was broke. His marriage was over. His house, cars, property and animals were not well maintained or cared for during the year he was gone. I DO NOT approve of his actions on the day of his death or many during the course of his life - I'm simply stating what was going on in the year or so before he killed himself.
    Now let's address the animal questions....
    Bird cages are the description used by persons on the scene. I have some friends that have raised exotic birds and the cages are quite large. I can say from photos I have seen of the Thompson property - the cages photographed (not sure I have seen all of the cages there) were of this larger nature. These typically are cages that I could stand up and walk around in. I'm 6'1 - so probably a 7 by 5 by 4ft cage. Again I don't agree with the cages but that gives you better insight and a clearer picture. Also we would need the Thompsons to give us a timeline of animals, I think the portion of the show that you may have missed is when we explained at the time there were very little to NO rules or regulations regarding owning these animals. John/wife neither had anything in their background to make them "qualified" to care for one or any of these animals. But again the law did not require that. You did not need to report owning one of these animals or 50 of these animals. There's no paper trail for the purchase of these animals. There were rules and regulations for owning dogs and cats but not exotic animals - there were no checks - there were no follow ups from breeders/sellers. It was only illegal to sell or transport cross state lines. That usually only resulted in a fine. I would like for more people to have been held accountable for this tragedy but we didn't have laws in place at the time to do so.
    Yes the white tiger was the one "messing" with his body after he died. I would wager a lot that none of these animals were house trained. The price for purchasing these types of animals is all over the shop so it would have been easier to acquire so many animals faster than most might think. His wife claimed they paid $30,000 for (them or these animals) it sounds like she means just for the two monkeys - I wonder if in the commotion someone didn't fully understand her statement. I read stories of people saying they (not the Thompson's) paid 10,12 and $15,000 for a single exotic animal depending on how hard it is to find the one you want. But I read several stories about many others who say - you can buy a lion cub for $300 if you know the right guy. They may have only paid $30,000 for their entire collection of 56 exotic animals.
    Thanks for posting- hope this clears some things up.
    Nic

  • Vinod Koduri

    Vinod Koduri WORTHINGTON

    Lions, tigers and conspiracy theories. COLUMBUS Zoo gets partial blame.

    Lions, tigers and conspiracy theories. COLUMBUS Zoo gets partial blame.

  • Cyndi

    Cyndi Tennessee

    WOW...btw, I agree 100% with literally everything that was said on the podcast including best guesses on the speculation of the situation, including sympathy and empathy for everyone involved on all sides. You guys were on point. I did actually hear about the laws and/or the lack thereof and that's unfortunate but was the reality at the time; I understand what was lacking and I'm glad things were changed. By impulsively vomiting thoughts /questions in my post, I'm definitely guilty of not making one of biggest questions and/or points clear.... Here it is - Regardless whether it was back then, or now, if it's legal to purchase and own exotic animals within the state and the BUYERS are being policed....What were and are the regulations and standards required of the SELLERS of these exotic animals to those interested? I guess the point behind my question is the following: in the spirit of TRULY caring about exotic animals , in a PERFECT world, I think the individuals selling them should also be policed and regulated to insure that these beautiful animals that weren't meant to be domesticated, are cared for properly and their needs are met on every level. (interviews and pre-purchase site visits, follow ups for xx-months, post-purchase, etc) I mean, if reputable organizations/breeders selling domesticated animals have those procedures in place, or something even close to that, I would like to think that's the bare minimum required for sellers of exotic animals. I feel like they should be held responsible and/or accountable at some level too. (if possible) If standards aren't in place for the sellers, history could easily repeat itself which we can all agree, we never want to happen. You mentioned that there's no paper trail - does that mean that people selling these animals are underground and not properly licensed to do so?? And if that's the case, then why is it legal to buy them and have them? btw, this isn't an argument - just questions and food for thought. I know you're just the messenger. Also, I think it's interesting that the white tiger that comfortably strolled by in the kitchen was the one that was seen with the body...however, it's a smart animal and you never know what was going through that kitty's brain if they had a close relationship...It could've been a situation in which it appeared he was eating his owner, but he/she-cat could've also been hovering over Terry out of mourning or as a way to protect his owner from the other animals...I've read about similar stories...you just never know....but maybe in this case that was true and was reported accurately...or maybe it was an assumption reported as fact based on an observation made in an adrenaline-fueled, unexpected situation....All of it is just real sad on multiple levels.

    WOW...btw, I agree 100% with literally everything that was said on the podcast including best guesses on the speculation of the situation, including sympathy and empathy for everyone involved on all sides. You guys were on point. I did actually hear about the laws and/or the lack thereof and that's unfortunate but was the reality at the time; I understand what was lacking and I'm glad things were changed. By impulsively vomiting thoughts /questions in my post, I'm definitely guilty of not making one of biggest questions and/or points clear....
    Here it is - Regardless whether it was back then, or now, if it's legal to purchase and own exotic animals within the state and the BUYERS are being policed....What were and are the regulations and standards required of the SELLERS of these exotic animals to those interested? I guess the point behind my question is the following: in the spirit of TRULY caring about exotic animals , in a PERFECT world, I think the individuals selling them should also be policed and regulated to insure that these beautiful animals that weren't meant to be domesticated, are cared for properly and their needs are met on every level. (interviews and pre-purchase site visits, follow ups for xx-months, post-purchase, etc) I mean, if reputable organizations/breeders selling domesticated animals have those procedures in place, or something even close to that, I would like to think that's the bare minimum required for sellers of exotic animals. I feel like they should be held responsible and/or accountable at some level too. (if possible) If standards aren't in place for the sellers, history could easily repeat itself which we can all agree, we never want to happen. You mentioned that there's no paper trail - does that mean that people selling these animals are underground and not properly licensed to do so?? And if that's the case, then why is it legal to buy them and have them? btw, this isn't an argument - just questions and food for thought. I know you're just the messenger. Also, I think it's interesting that the white tiger that comfortably strolled by in the kitchen was the one that was seen with the body...however, it's a smart animal and you never know what was going through that kitty's brain if they had a close relationship...It could've been a situation in which it appeared he was eating his owner, but he/she-cat could've also been hovering over Terry out of mourning or as a way to protect his owner from the other animals...I've read about similar stories...you just never know....but maybe in this case that was true and was reported accurately...or maybe it was an assumption reported as fact based on an observation made in an adrenaline-fueled, unexpected situation....All of it is just real sad on multiple levels.

  • Amanda

    Amanda Maryland

    What an interesting coincidence that you made this episode the same week that there was a deadly lion attack at that zoo in North Carolina. I love animals, and I love going to zoos and seeing them. But stories like this emphasize that these are still wild animals. No matter what personal connection you think you have with them, they have instincts and can be dangerous. They need to be contained properly, whether at a zoo or a private home (and you can debate all day whether or not individuals should own these kinds of animals). I'm glad that Ohio put stricter laws in place after this incident. I'm not saying that Terry wasn't responsible for his actions; but the proper laws would certainly have prevented this situation.

    What an interesting coincidence that you made this episode the same week that there was a deadly lion attack at that zoo in North Carolina. I love animals, and I love going to zoos and seeing them. But stories like this emphasize that these are still wild animals. No matter what personal connection you think you have with them, they have instincts and can be dangerous. They need to be contained properly, whether at a zoo or a private home (and you can debate all day whether or not individuals should own these kinds of animals). I'm glad that Ohio put stricter laws in place after this incident. I'm not saying that Terry wasn't responsible for his actions; but the proper laws would certainly have prevented this situation.

  • Wade

    Wade Indiana

    What was the show nick was on? I would like to watch it

    What was the show nick was on? I would like to watch it

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    It was on ID channel (Investigation Discovery) Lake Erie Murders - Episodes 1-3 feature the Amy Mihaljevic case. I'm on for a little bit on parts 2 and 3. Cheers Nic

    It was on ID channel (Investigation Discovery) Lake Erie Murders - Episodes 1-3 feature the Amy Mihaljevic case. I'm on for a little bit on parts 2 and 3.
    Cheers Nic

  • True Crime Garage

    True Crime Garage

    Lake Erie Murders episodes 1-3 will air again tomorrow on ID channel (Investigation Discovery) starting at 1pm EST.

    Lake Erie Murders episodes 1-3 will air again tomorrow on ID channel (Investigation Discovery) starting at 1pm EST.

  • Nikki

    Nikki California

    OMG, poor Jack Hannah! He must've been beside himself when he saw what was happening with those poor animals. Can't understand why anyone would want to keep one of those beauties in their custody, let alone as many as this guy had!

    OMG, poor Jack Hannah! He must've been beside himself when he saw what was happening with those poor animals. Can't understand why anyone would want to keep one of those beauties in their custody, let alone as many as this guy had!

  • Deron

    Deron FL

    I swear to God if Captain says the phrase piece of SHIT again like he does 20 times for every episode I will stop listening to True Crime garage he ruins every episode

    I swear to God if Captain says the phrase piece of SHIT again like he does 20 times for every episode I will stop listening to True Crime garage he ruins every episode

  • Andrew

    Andrew Norfolk Va

    @deron youse piece of shit.

    @deron youse piece of shit.

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