The I-70 KIller /// 441 /// 442

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  • Mel
    Mel St Charles, missouri
    The murder in the boot store by the 1-70 killer - that boot store became a panera bread and I used to open that bakery at 5 am. It was 1994 when I had that job and knowing someone was murdered there was creepy!

    The murder in the boot store by the 1-70 killer - that boot store became a panera bread and I used to open that bakery at 5 am. It was 1994 when I had that job and knowing someone was murdered there was creepy!

  • Slatts McCracker
    Slatts McCracker Syd AUS
    Fahmi Malek is the President of Parts Unknown!! What? On a serious note: This reminds me of the aurora Hammer Slayer. A burst of violence out of nowhere, then nothing. I wonder if he’s been sitting in a Pen somewhere since 1992 like the stupid mouth having aurora bloke was. On a more serious note: bring back the Feelin Fahmi tees please

    Fahmi Malek is the President of Parts Unknown!! What?

    On a serious note: This reminds me of the aurora Hammer Slayer. A burst of violence out of nowhere, then nothing. I wonder if he’s been sitting in a Pen somewhere since 1992 like the stupid mouth having aurora bloke was.

    On a more serious note: bring back the Feelin Fahmi tees please

  • Matt
    Matt Virginia
    I'll be curious to hear the second half, but as I have looked up the locations of the known murders, something that stands out is that the locations aren't always what I would consider quick getaway locations. Yes, some are, but, for example, the location is Terre Haute was several blocks from I-70 along a main commercial strip. The Raytown, Missouri, location isn't even that close to an interstate highway. Wichita, of course, isn't even along I-70, which makes one wonder if he had another reason to be there. There's something about the pattern that makes me think the killer was doing something else around the same time, something that required him to be in those areas when the murders were committed.

    I'll be curious to hear the second half, but as I have looked up the locations of the known murders, something that stands out is that the locations aren't always what I would consider quick getaway locations. Yes, some are, but, for example, the location is Terre Haute was several blocks from I-70 along a main commercial strip. The Raytown, Missouri, location isn't even that close to an interstate highway. Wichita, of course, isn't even along I-70, which makes one wonder if he had another reason to be there. There's something about the pattern that makes me think the killer was doing something else around the same time, something that required him to be in those areas when the murders were committed.

  • Janikka
    Janikka The frozen tundra
    To answer your question about who could be the “smiley face killer(s)” is really truck drivers. I know a lot of truck drivers. And to say they are weekends (right after a load would be dropped and they could have a leisurely time home, OR being waiting around to pickup a load before going back towards home) means they most likely have a little time to be less accounted for. It’s not an incredibly hard job to get, anyone with a decent driving record can get a job driving. If you were a person who wanted to hide your sexuality hidden and access to people who don’t know you and might not ever find you, a truck driver is the ideal job. You make decent money and you can be gone at any time of the day without even raising an eyebrow. I really think the smiley face killer exists, and that they are a truck driver.

    To answer your question about who could be the “smiley face killer(s)” is really truck drivers. I know a lot of truck drivers. And to say they are weekends (right after a load would be dropped and they could have a leisurely time home, OR being waiting around to pickup a load before going back towards home) means they most likely have a little time to be less accounted for. It’s not an incredibly hard job to get, anyone with a decent driving record can get a job driving. If you were a person who wanted to hide your sexuality hidden and access to people who don’t know you and might not ever find you, a truck driver is the ideal job. You make decent money and you can be gone at any time of the day without even raising an eyebrow. I really think the smiley face killer exists, and that they are a truck driver.

  • Emily C.
    Emily C. MD
    Is the Captain really moving to LA???

    Is the Captain really moving to LA???

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Emily C. • MD No we were just joking around. Captain

    Emily C. • MD

    No we were just joking around.

    Captain

  • Travis
    Travis VA
    I wonder about the possibility of a “DC Sniper-type” motive here, where one of the murders was targeted and the rest were random to throw off investigators. That would help explain the arbitrary thefts as well. But I also think (hope?) investigators would have considered that and would have been able to piece something together by now.

    I wonder about the possibility of a “DC Sniper-type” motive here, where one of the murders was targeted and the rest were random to throw off investigators. That would help explain the arbitrary thefts as well. But I also think (hope?) investigators would have considered that and would have been able to piece something together by now.

  • Megan
    Megan
    As someone who has worked alone in a small store for the past 6 years this case REALLY scared me. Then I saw a picture of the gun and now I’m never going back to work.. thanks guys! Also the opening trailer was awesome.. great job!

    As someone who has worked alone in a small store for the past 6 years this case REALLY scared me. Then I saw a picture of the gun and now I’m never going back to work.. thanks guys! Also the opening trailer was awesome.. great job!

  • Andy
    Andy Missouri
    Great coverage guys. Early 90’s cold cases are your bread and butter. I like the idea that this guy lived in central Missouri near I-70 and I-35 it’s an interesting take. The I-35 Texas killings are too similar MO to not be him I think. I have a suspicion he was a military person possibly stationed at Ft. Leonard Wood in Missouri then moved somewhere nearby when discharged. I think he was likely in his mid 20’s to early 30’s that’s usually when serial killers break and start committing their crimes. The only thing you guys got wrong is the store Nancy Kitzmiller was killed at is like 0.2 miles from I-70 you can throw a rock and from the plaza and hit the highway.

    Great coverage guys. Early 90’s cold cases are your bread and butter. I like the idea that this guy lived in central Missouri near I-70 and I-35 it’s an interesting take. The I-35 Texas killings are too similar MO to not be him I think. I have a suspicion he was a military person possibly stationed at Ft. Leonard Wood in Missouri then moved somewhere nearby when discharged. I think he was likely in his mid 20’s to early 30’s that’s usually when serial killers break and start committing their crimes. The only thing you guys got wrong is the store Nancy Kitzmiller was killed at is like 0.2 miles from I-70 you can throw a rock and from the plaza and hit the highway.

  • Rachael
    Rachael MO
    You said Zumbehl correctly the first time, "Zum-bell". We have weirdly named roads around here! Very interesting case, I never like driving I-70, both because there are always so many fatal accidents along the stretch I drive, and because of these murders. I always wonder who he was and what became of him when I I drive it. I hope this is solved someday.

    You said Zumbehl correctly the first time, "Zum-bell". We have weirdly named roads around here! Very interesting case, I never like driving I-70, both because there are always so many fatal accidents along the stretch I drive, and because of these murders. I always wonder who he was and what became of him when I I drive it. I hope this is solved someday.

  • Jenni
    Jenni Lex
    I feel like the “robbery” is him just trying to throw the cops off

    I feel like the “robbery” is him just trying to throw the cops off

  • Daniel
    Daniel Fargo, ND
    I have a strong vibe that these were "fuck you" killings committed by a recently released prisoner. There seems to be a subset of psychopathic prisoners who decide to kill a certain number of people to get even with society. Examples: Joseph Duncan, Danny Rolling. Todd Kohlhepp, sort of. Scott Lee Kimball (his killings screamed "fuck you" to me).

    I have a strong vibe that these were "fuck you" killings committed by a recently released prisoner. There seems to be a subset of psychopathic prisoners who decide to kill a certain number of people to get even with society. Examples: Joseph Duncan, Danny Rolling. Todd Kohlhepp, sort of. Scott Lee Kimball (his killings screamed "fuck you" to me).

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    @ Daniel - that's just it and exactly right! There was some trigger something that gave him the desire and motive for murder. Then you have to wonder what was that prevented this from starting early - depending on this guy's age. I think this guy was living close to or at least closer to the west side of the killings. Remember look at the map and put these killings in a straight line all near i-70. Two of the five attacks were much further from the interstate than the other three. You have to wonder were these two deliberate targets and the other three random targets? If so why? If you can come up with those answers now you start to have your trail of bread crumbs. Cheers Nic

    @ Daniel - that's just it and exactly right! There was some trigger something that gave him the desire and motive for murder. Then you have to wonder what was that prevented this from starting early - depending on this guy's age. I think this guy was living close to or at least closer to the west side of the killings. Remember look at the map and put these killings in a straight line all near i-70. Two of the five attacks were much further from the interstate than the other three. You have to wonder were these two deliberate targets and the other three random targets? If so why? If you can come up with those answers now you start to have your trail of bread crumbs.
    Cheers Nic

  • Megan
    Megan
    Just relistening to the episode and thinking how chilling it is this man has never been caught and it got me thinking. Do you think the perpetrators in the unsolved cases you cover ever listen to the podcast? I feel like some of them definitely have and that is really unsettling to think about it

    Just relistening to the episode and thinking how chilling it is this man has never been caught and it got me thinking. Do you think the perpetrators in the unsolved cases you cover ever listen to the podcast? I feel like some of them definitely have and that is really unsettling to think about it

  • Matt
    Matt Virginia
    Following up on your last comment, do you think the case is hampered, at least in the public mind, by the obsession with I-70? If you look at the two sites furthest from I-70 (Indianapolis, Wichita), both are still convenient to major highways. Yet when you look at Raytown - which people associate with I-70 - the actual location is far from the interstate. The Terre Haute location is closer to I-70, but involves driving through a busy commercial strip. Someone on Reddit mentioned that it reminds them of the DC Sniper, and I think this is a good comparison. People were trying to draw connections where there really weren't any.

    Following up on your last comment, do you think the case is hampered, at least in the public mind, by the obsession with I-70? If you look at the two sites furthest from I-70 (Indianapolis, Wichita), both are still convenient to major highways. Yet when you look at Raytown - which people associate with I-70 - the actual location is far from the interstate. The Terre Haute location is closer to I-70, but involves driving through a busy commercial strip. Someone on Reddit mentioned that it reminds them of the DC Sniper, and I think this is a good comparison. People were trying to draw connections where there really weren't any.

  • Matt
    Matt Virginia
    @Megan. That recently happened with a case out in Colorado. Steven Pankey was recently arrested for the killing of Jonelle Matthews. in 1984. After his arrest, it came out that he had been a patron of many true crime podcasts, including The Trail Went Cold, which had done an episode on the case even before Pankey's name became public.

    @Megan. That recently happened with a case out in Colorado. Steven Pankey was recently arrested for the killing of Jonelle Matthews. in 1984. After his arrest, it came out that he had been a patron of many true crime podcasts, including The Trail Went Cold, which had done an episode on the case even before Pankey's name became public.

  • Lori
    Lori Maine
    Hi guys Just started listening to your podcasts in the past month. Fascinating true crime discussions with just the right amount of humor. Have you considered discussing “the Piketon Massacre” ? It’s the multiple murders of a family in Piketon Ohio.

    Hi guys
    Just started listening to your podcasts in the past month. Fascinating true crime discussions with just the right amount of humor.
    Have you considered discussing “the Piketon Massacre” ? It’s the multiple murders of a family in Piketon Ohio.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Yes - I have no doubt that the persons responsible follow the cases in the local papers, searches on the internet, and now true-crime podcast. I'm convinced that Bridge Guy has followed the Delphi case. Now as a perfect example when we covered the Tara Grinstead case episodes 215 and 216 back in June of 2018, Bo Dukes who was one of two convicted in Tara's case and went on to commit other crimes reached out to us and spoke with the Captain in a very lengthy conversation. We have had other suspects contact us as well. In fact, we recently featured an interview with a suspect on Off The Record episode 103. We have had many others as well. Some day we should put out a "tell-all" book, ha. Cheers Nic

    Yes - I have no doubt that the persons responsible follow the cases in the local papers, searches on the internet, and now true-crime podcast. I'm convinced that Bridge Guy has followed the Delphi case.
    Now as a perfect example when we covered the Tara Grinstead case episodes 215 and 216 back in June of 2018, Bo Dukes who was one of two convicted in Tara's case and went on to commit other crimes reached out to us and spoke with the Captain in a very lengthy conversation. We have had other suspects contact us as well. In fact, we recently featured an interview with a suspect on Off The Record episode 103.
    We have had many others as well. Some day we should put out a "tell-all" book, ha.
    Cheers Nic

  • mG
    mG tX
    Obviously not a sexual predator, which complicates investigation, no pervert roundup. I think most likely a sales rep or someone whose job involved driving those highways and often going to businessses in strip malls. Obviously a sociopath. Hard to imagine someone like this turning it off. Am betting he was either imprisoned or committed suicide. Don't think Texas killings are related. Nice job, Nic.

    Obviously not a sexual predator, which complicates investigation, no pervert roundup. I think most likely a sales rep or someone whose job involved driving those highways and often going to businessses in strip malls. Obviously a sociopath. Hard to imagine someone like this turning it off. Am betting he was either imprisoned or committed suicide. Don't think Texas killings are related. Nice job, Nic.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Thanks mG. I agree with all said. I'm still leaning toward the Texas cases being connected. This guy either got caught, which seems most likely. Or got shot and killed by some old school shop owner with a shotgun under the counter, poor planning on I-70's part. Or he graduated to something else. This could be anything from home invasion to even suicide. I wonder about the talking to himself and the giggling. Could he have had a mental break with reality and he was some kind of mission-oriented killer but because he is so far gone the mission is not clear to us and he never felt the need to communicate the mission to the public? I agree with mG this is a complicated investigation because of the preditor's m.o. and lack of a clear motive. I can't quite articulate why this case fascinates me so much. Cheers Nic

    Thanks mG. I agree with all said. I'm still leaning toward the Texas cases being connected. This guy either got caught, which seems most likely. Or got shot and killed by some old school shop owner with a shotgun under the counter, poor planning on I-70's part. Or he graduated to something else. This could be anything from home invasion to even suicide. I wonder about the talking to himself and the giggling. Could he have had a mental break with reality and he was some kind of mission-oriented killer but because he is so far gone the mission is not clear to us and he never felt the need to communicate the mission to the public? I agree with mG this is a complicated investigation because of the preditor's m.o. and lack of a clear motive.
    I can't quite articulate why this case fascinates me so much. Cheers Nic

  • Tim
    Tim Charlotte NC
    I live in Charlotte now but Ohio born and lived in Columbus most my life. I was listening on the 2 part I-70 killer. I wonder how close to grey hound bus stations these killings were. The suspect looked homeless and the amounts of money would be perfect for hopping the next bus.

    I live in Charlotte now but Ohio born and lived in Columbus most my life. I was listening on the 2 part I-70 killer. I wonder how close to grey hound bus stations these killings were. The suspect looked homeless and the amounts of money would be perfect for hopping the next bus.

  • Narda Wakoluk
    Narda Wakoluk
    I disagree that this was probably a killer on a spree. Here is a thought: for whatever reason, some professional bad person was tied to that area for a short period, needed cash for basics and killed witnesses as a matter of course. Were there military hops available in and out of that nearby base? What about organized crime? Recently finished I-70 went cross country to major areas with organized crime.

    I disagree that this was probably a killer on a spree. Here is a thought: for whatever reason, some professional bad person was tied to that area for a short period, needed cash for basics and killed witnesses as a matter of course. Were there military hops available in and out of that nearby base? What about organized crime? Recently finished I-70 went cross country to major areas with organized crime.

  • Dave
    Dave Bedford, PA
    maybe read Nick Bryant's book, The Franklin Scandal, before you put too much stock in what certain people from the FBI say. Dulles clearly was one of the main people who had JFK killed. Why would you listen to the CIA? This dude is Naval Intelligence. He's a spook. Was he one of the hobos? I don't know. I do know this. Whatever the plan was to kill JFK. Oswald didn't know it.

    maybe read Nick Bryant's book, The Franklin Scandal, before you put too much stock in what certain people from the FBI say. Dulles clearly was one of the main people who had JFK killed. Why would you listen to the CIA? This dude is Naval Intelligence. He's a spook. Was he one of the hobos? I don't know. I do know this. Whatever the plan was to kill JFK. Oswald didn't know it.

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