500Lb. Serial Killer /// Episodes 173 & 174

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  • Douche Canoe Rentals
    Douche Canoe Rentals Lake Ladouche
    OMG, it's Big Fat Bastard from Austin Powers!

    OMG, it's Big Fat Bastard from Austin Powers!

  • Stephen Lampshire
    Stephen Lampshire Hoboken
    Tune at the start of the episode is great- name/artist?

    Tune at the start of the episode is great- name/artist?

  • Brian
    Brian Parts Unknown
    Is that interlude music a Captain original? Very Thriller. Very funky. Awesome job.

    Is that interlude music a Captain original? Very Thriller. Very funky. Awesome job.

  • Dave Fletcher
    Dave Fletcher Baltimore md
    As a resident of Baltimore this was a great series. On a side note I worked off James street and know the area and the pallet company. Didn’t know what happened there and it’s funny since the street walkers still hang out there.

    As a resident of Baltimore this was a great series. On a side note I worked off James street and know the area and the pallet company. Didn’t know what happened there and it’s funny since the street walkers still hang out there.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    The music all of it is always written, performed, recorded, mixed and mastered by the Captain. Cheers - Nic

    The music all of it is always written, performed, recorded, mixed and mastered by the Captain.
    Cheers - Nic

  • Kaligrl77
    Kaligrl77
    You guys aren’t showing up with new episodes on my Apple podcast app. What is up with that?

    You guys aren’t showing up with new episodes on my Apple podcast app. What is up with that?

  • Jen Morri
    Jen Morri Houston
    So basically learned that if you get high and have sex with a dead body, the getting high is the only crime in MD. Because 1018.

    So basically learned that if you get high and have sex with a dead body, the getting high is the only crime in MD. Because 1018.

  • Lori
    Lori Somewhere in Texas
    This last episode ...wow....been a true crime junky for years but this one really bothers me. Not sure if it’s the serving up of victims talk, or the callous lack of remorse, or something else., but good job, gentlemen.

    This last episode ...wow....been a true crime junky for years but this one really bothers me. Not sure if it’s the serving up of victims talk, or the callous lack of remorse, or something else., but good job, gentlemen.

  • Sarah
    Sarah The North
    I'm with you Nic, I would take a pass at purchasing anything from this guy let alone street meat. Speaking of which, I wonder how he became so obese in prison, a little too well fed me thinks. As always the show was so captivating and the Captain's grooves were spot on. X

    I'm with you Nic, I would take a pass at purchasing anything from this guy let alone street meat. Speaking of which, I wonder how he became so obese in prison, a little too well fed me thinks. As always the show was so captivating and the Captain's grooves were spot on. X

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    At Kaligirl - not sure may be a glitch with your device. I have the downloads on my iPhone. Good luck! Nic

    At Kaligirl - not sure may be a glitch with your device. I have the downloads on my iPhone. Good luck!
    Nic

  • Paula
    Paula Houston
    Mine aren’t showing up either so not just her.

    Mine aren’t showing up either so not just her.

  • Jennifer
    Jennifer Space Coast
    "It only takes one murder.....to qualify as a piece o' sh*******t." Gold from the Captain. Loved the music too. Keep it up fellas!

    "It only takes one murder.....to qualify as a piece o' sh*******t." Gold from the Captain. Loved the music too. Keep it up fellas!

  • Jess
    Jess Chicago
    Loved this episode! Glad you went over the confessions they were really scary but interesting. Had never heard of this one before but now it was one that I want to look more into. Thanks guys!

    Loved this episode! Glad you went over the confessions they were really scary but interesting. Had never heard of this one before but now it was one that I want to look more into. Thanks guys!

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    There have been some issues with episodes. Everything should be fixed by now. Try to refresh, sorry for the inconvenience. I hope you don't miss out. This week's episodes were really good! ? Cheers Nic

    There have been some issues with episodes. Everything should be fixed by now. Try to refresh, sorry for the inconvenience. I hope you don't miss out. This week's episodes were really good! ?
    Cheers Nic

  • John
    John Atlanta
    I agree that this POS should have been executed. More and more often judges are inserting their own views into the death penalty debate and no one can argue with them. That is anti-democratic and borders on regal government.

    I agree that this POS should have been executed. More and more often judges are inserting their own views into the death penalty debate and no one can argue with them. That is anti-democratic and borders on regal government.

  • Morphed
    Morphed Finland
    About the mobile issues... Downcast still doesn't show new episodes. Probly a bigger universal lag glitch.

    About the mobile issues... Downcast still doesn't show new episodes. Probly a bigger universal lag glitch.

  • LilMaggie
    LilMaggie NY
    One odd thought popped into my head listening to these episodes. Wasn't he concerned about any diseases he may have caught when cooking and eating the meat?

    One odd thought popped into my head listening to these episodes. Wasn't he concerned about any diseases he may have caught when cooking and eating the meat?

  • SgtMac127
    SgtMac127 SC
    I don’t think this guy was “field dressing”anyone...... or had ever done it before. He was a shit bag for sure. But anyone that has ever hunted deer knows you don’t use a hacksaw blade to field dress anything.

    I don’t think this guy was “field dressing”anyone...... or had ever done it before. He was a shit bag for sure. But anyone that has ever hunted deer knows you don’t use a hacksaw blade to field dress anything.

  • Chris
    Chris Missouri
    Your bringing up that there's a certain number of serial killers in the trucking industry brings up the issue of the West Memphis Three. The proximity of a large trucking plaza to the site where the three little boys were murdered and disposed of becomes very, very interesting. Something in that case is off, way off. In the light of the glutton for death's confessions about his behavior in re. lot lizards and what he did to dispose of the bodies afterwards, is there the possibility that someone using similar tactics came in through the plaza/highway system, did the boys, and literally drove off unencumbered to parts unknown, a hundred miles away by the time the bodies were found? That, and the way the boys were killed: it feels highly practiced, almost ritualistic, if not flat out fetishist, from the way they were tied to the way they were killed. Has anybody bothered to find out if similar killings have been done in other parts of the country? Has the land around truck plazas along that route been investigated? Have similar disappearances occurred along that route? I mean, if a 500 pound serial killer is back page news (I guess he wasn't as "glamorous" as say, Ted Bundy or John Gacey. I mean, unless Marlon Brando opts to rise from the dead to take on the role, I doubt even Hollywood would be willing to make a movie about him unless they rewrote him as a hot powerlifter with a bad yen for dead girls...) How many similar deaths in small towns have occurred but are so far apart that CNN doesn't think them worthy of reporting. Just a thought!

    Your bringing up that there's a certain number of serial killers in the trucking industry brings up the issue of the West Memphis Three. The proximity of a large trucking plaza to the site where the three little boys were murdered and disposed of becomes very, very interesting. Something in that case is off, way off. In the light of the glutton for death's confessions about his behavior in re. lot lizards and what he did to dispose of the bodies afterwards, is there the possibility that someone using similar tactics came in through the plaza/highway system, did the boys, and literally drove off unencumbered to parts unknown, a hundred miles away by the time the bodies were found? That, and the way the boys were killed: it feels highly practiced, almost ritualistic, if not flat out fetishist, from the way they were tied to the way they were killed. Has anybody bothered to find out if similar killings have been done in other parts of the country? Has the land around truck plazas along that route been investigated? Have similar disappearances occurred along that route? I mean, if a 500 pound serial killer is back page news (I guess he wasn't as "glamorous" as say, Ted Bundy or John Gacey. I mean, unless Marlon Brando opts to rise from the dead to take on the role, I doubt even Hollywood would be willing to make a movie about him unless they rewrote him as a hot powerlifter with a bad yen for dead girls...) How many similar deaths in small towns have occurred but are so far apart that CNN doesn't think them worthy of reporting. Just a thought!

  • Beth
    Beth Baltimore
    Nic, warn a girl before you read that shit! I liked it when you used to give warnings. Almost threw up.

    Nic, warn a girl before you read that shit! I liked it when you used to give warnings. Almost threw up.

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia California
    Haven't finished listening to the episode yet, but I had to comment on the new music. Loving it!

    Haven't finished listening to the episode yet, but I had to comment on the new music. Loving it!

  • Shelby
    Shelby Naples, Texas
    Can we get shirts that just say “piece of shit” or something, it’s my favorite Captain saying. Haha

    Can we get shirts that just say “piece of shit” or something, it’s my favorite Captain saying. Haha

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Sgt. Mac - keep in mind I said I wasn't going to go into the amount of detail that Joe used to describe his actions. Field dressing was an accurate and polite way to describe it as he wrote about what he did to those women. Nic

    Sgt. Mac - keep in mind I said I wasn't going to go into the amount of detail that Joe used to describe his actions. Field dressing was an accurate and polite way to describe it as he wrote about what he did to those women.
    Nic

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Beth - if you see the words serial killer in the episode title or show notes just know it's going to be some of the worst stuff you have ever heard. The Captain and I even cleaned up the story line at many parts. We took a horrible story and brought it down to a rated R podcast. Cheers Nic

    Beth - if you see the words serial killer in the episode title or show notes just know it's going to be some of the worst stuff you have ever heard. The Captain and I even cleaned up the story line at many parts. We took a horrible story and brought it down to a rated R podcast.
    Cheers Nic

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Hey Everyone I'm sure a lot of you know this already but Crime Con is May 4-6 in Nashville this year. They have gave us a promo code. So anyone looking to purchase a standard ticket use code TCGARAGE and you'll save 10%. Get tickets at CrimeCon.com It's going to be fun! Cheers Nic

    Hey Everyone I'm sure a lot of you know this already but Crime Con is May 4-6 in Nashville this year. They have gave us a promo code. So anyone looking to purchase a standard ticket use code TCGARAGE and you'll save 10%. Get tickets at CrimeCon.com
    It's going to be fun!
    Cheers Nic

  • Bonnie
    Bonnie Reno
    It’s SPARKS Nevada, not Sharps.

    It’s SPARKS Nevada, not Sharps.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous
    I haven't yet listened to this episode as I am getting caught up but can I suggest a case to look into? It is the disappearance of Bryce Laspisa. It is a very interesting story that I heard about on the show 'Disappeared' Thank you and keep up the good work!

    I haven't yet listened to this episode as I am getting caught up but can I suggest a case to look into? It is the disappearance of Bryce Laspisa. It is a very interesting story that I heard about on the show 'Disappeared'
    Thank you and keep up the good work!

  • Leicifur
    Leicifur
    Listening to this right now, and cant believe you think the mother was negligent! of course she was, she was NEVER home, thats neglect.

    Listening to this right now, and cant believe you think the mother was negligent! of course she was, she was NEVER home, thats neglect.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    You know that she was never home? How? Nic

    You know that she was never home? How?
    Nic

  • True Crime Fan
    True Crime Fan Antarctica
    Looks like he ate Mama June

    Looks like he ate Mama June

  • Murph95
    Murph95 Indiana
    So he seems to have a strong hatred for women.. Street workers.. AND his mom.. His mom was "always working odd jobs" to put bread on the table. Aside from a possible snapping point for him being his baby momma leaving and later turning to street working.. Has anyone considered the possibility that Joe's mother could have been a street worker at times herself?

    So he seems to have a strong hatred for women.. Street workers.. AND his mom.. His mom was "always working odd jobs" to put bread on the table. Aside from a possible snapping point for him being his baby momma leaving and later turning to street working.. Has anyone considered the possibility that Joe's mother could have been a street worker at times herself?

  • Halyn
    Halyn Ut
    Seriously loved the music in these episodes! It was a positive offset to this horrific story!?

    Seriously loved the music in these episodes! It was a positive offset to this horrific story!?

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    That could be a possiblity Murph and even if that's not true who knows what he believed growing up as to how his mother made money. My thought is he might have started picking up working girls while out driving the big rig cross country. There can be situations that come with these appointments, unhappy customers, thievery and the transmission of diseases. These types of things can cause a loser like Joe to seek out revenge on all women in similar occupations. Another likely scenario is this, some men who have severe inadequacy issues regardless of where they stem from prefer or cannot finish with a willing, conscious or alive female. Sounds crazy and it definitely is but also very, very true and also very common among serials. Hard to say cheers after that but what the hell, cheers! Nic

    That could be a possiblity Murph and even if that's not true who knows what he believed growing up as to how his mother made money. My thought is he might have started picking up working girls while out driving the big rig cross country. There can be situations that come with these appointments, unhappy customers, thievery and the transmission of diseases. These types of things can cause a loser like Joe to seek out revenge on all women in similar occupations. Another likely scenario is this, some men who have severe inadequacy issues regardless of where they stem from prefer or cannot finish with a willing, conscious or alive female. Sounds crazy and it definitely is but also very, very true and also very common among serials.
    Hard to say cheers after that but what the hell, cheers! Nic

  • Maddy&Daisy
    Maddy&Daisy
    Hands down this episode's track is by far, my favorite. I LOVE the bassline... it ROCKS! Horrible story though and yes, he does look like L4D's Boomer. (I have to admit, i was imagining the Boomer's theme "Pukricide" playing faintly in the background of the track when i was listening to it. Wouldn't that sound dope?!)

    Hands down this episode's track is by far, my favorite. I LOVE the bassline... it ROCKS! Horrible story though and yes, he does look like L4D's Boomer. (I have to admit, i was imagining the Boomer's theme "Pukricide" playing faintly in the background of the track when i was listening to it. Wouldn't that sound dope?!)

  • ks tom jones
    ks tom jones Wichita
    Ok so this dudes getting girls to go home with him. Fml. I guess #smoothtalker?

    Ok so this dudes getting girls to go home with him. Fml. I guess #smoothtalker?

  • Melissa
    Melissa Bodymore, Murderland
    I live in south Baltimore myself, what a chilling case! I had vaguely heard about it a while back but I love that you covered the case. Personally, I think he has a big mouth and did not do all these murders he claims he did. Lets be honest, he was by all account a fat drunk slob, so I dont think he could murder 5 people in 7h. I think most of his ramblings are fantasies (especially about the 12 year old girl). Baltimore at that time was very working class and tight-knit, a missing 12 year old girl would have been all over the news and you would find record of that. Meat sandwhiches? eh. I think the people who claim to probably have eaten it just want some attention, general bar talk and such. He should have gotten the chair....

    I live in south Baltimore myself, what a chilling case! I had vaguely heard about it a while back but I love that you covered the case.
    Personally, I think he has a big mouth and did not do all these murders he claims he did. Lets be honest, he was by all account a fat drunk slob, so I dont think he could murder 5 people in 7h. I think most of his ramblings are fantasies (especially about the 12 year old girl).
    Baltimore at that time was very working class and tight-knit, a missing 12 year old girl would have been all over the news and you would find record of that.
    Meat sandwhiches? eh. I think the people who claim to probably have eaten it just want some attention, general bar talk and such.

    He should have gotten the chair....

  • Charles
    Charles Santa Cruz California
    I love you guys, I tell everyone to tune in. I also try to find your favorite beers. I love stouts so I try to find your 5 bottle caps picks. The only 5 I've heard was big bad Baptist but I haven't found it yet. I I'm always looking for more stories like the north Hollywood bank robbers, could you guys get into anything like that? The stories of women and children getting killed turns out to be pretty traumatic I've found. What about some stories about heavy hitter crooks , I find them to be pretty interesting. Ok so thanks for all the hard work, you guys are great!

    I love you guys, I tell everyone to tune in.
    I also try to find your favorite beers.
    I love stouts so I try to find your 5 bottle caps picks.
    The only 5 I've heard was big bad Baptist but I haven't found it yet.
    I I'm always looking for more stories like the north Hollywood bank robbers, could you guys get into anything like that?
    The stories of women and children getting killed turns out to be pretty traumatic I've found.
    What about some stories about heavy hitter crooks , I find them to be pretty interesting.
    Ok so thanks for all the hard work, you guys are great!

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Hi Charles, You need to do some beer sleuthing! I've had to figure out what carry outs and bars are doing in my area. Once you do this its like unlocking secret rooms in a Zelda dungeon! Big Bad Baptist is a must, must try for you my friend. They are out of Salt Lake City so you should be able to find them. Typically they are in the big expensive bomber bottles. 24 ounces so look in those section plus ask a couple of "beer guys" what's up.i live the triple B! Cheers Nic

    Hi Charles,
    You need to do some beer sleuthing! I've had to figure out what carry outs and bars are doing in my area. Once you do this its like unlocking secret rooms in a Zelda dungeon! Big Bad Baptist is a must, must try for you my friend. They are out of Salt Lake City so you should be able to find them. Typically they are in the big expensive bomber bottles. 24 ounces so look in those section plus ask a couple of "beer guys" what's up.i live the triple B!
    Cheers Nic

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Sorry 22 ounces but well worth the price. The ABV is nice and high! Nic

    Sorry 22 ounces but well worth the price. The ABV is nice and high!
    Nic

  • Jessa
    Jessa North Idaho
    I loved the music on this episode! Cap you're so talented. Can I download?

    I loved the music on this episode! Cap you're so talented. Can I download?

  • mg
    mg teXas
    This guy killed more people then he should have been allowed to. I put this on the police, who just sometimes don't put much stock in victims they consider to be "undesirable."

    This guy killed more people then he should have been allowed to. I put this on the police, who just sometimes don't put much stock in victims they consider to be "undesirable."

  • Steve
    Steve Rockville, Md.
    Captain, thanks for the shout out to good old Rockville, Md. Raised here since elementary school and work on the Pike. Mom still lives in our original house. Love the show, keep up the great work. There were either one or two sisters that went missing in the 1970's in Rockville and went missing after leaving the High School (Wootton) or the Jr. High (Frost). Have others requested you do a show on this? I know it was a mystery for 20 or 30 years and they could not find out where they went or any remains. Say hey to Nick!

    Captain, thanks for the shout out to good old Rockville, Md. Raised here since elementary school and work on the Pike. Mom still lives in our original house. Love the show, keep up the great work. There were either one or two sisters that went missing in the 1970's in Rockville and went missing after leaving the High School (Wootton) or the Jr. High (Frost). Have others requested you do a show on this? I know it was a mystery for 20 or 30 years and they could not find out where they went or any remains. Say hey to Nick!

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Hi Steve! That sounds familiar but I'll need name(s), at least a last name. Our list is long and contain just brief info for the hundreds of suggestions. Cheers Nic

    Hi Steve!
    That sounds familiar but I'll need name(s), at least a last name. Our list is long and contain just brief info for the hundreds of suggestions.
    Cheers Nic

  • Lisa
    Lisa Maryland
    Steve, Are you sure you are not thinking of the Lyon sisters, from Wheaton? Lloyd Welch pleaded guilty Sept 2017, 42 years after the crime.

    Steve,
    Are you sure you are not thinking of the Lyon sisters, from Wheaton?
    Lloyd Welch pleaded guilty Sept 2017, 42 years after the crime.

  • Jennifer
    Jennifer
    First off this one was hard to listen to, not because of the crimes but because I am the child of a man with very similar personality traits and characteristics of this man, a man who is also serving 50 years in prison for crimes done to myself and my sister, though his victims are likely far more than that. My gut feeling when you started talking about this guy's life and who he is, he's most likely a pathological liar who gets off not only on hurting other people, but on creating a monstrous persona built mostly of lies and the feeling of power that it gives him. I highly doubt he killed that 12 year old. As you said, probably just fantasized about it or even fed off someone else's story in prison. I highly doubt he killed any other than those 2 "houseless" ? men in that one instance where he gloated about killing 5 people in that short amount of time. I *highly* doubt he turned any of his victims into sandwiches. He sounds like a guy that is not only real scum but tries to make up for it by creating a false persona with maybe a few real truths as building blocks. That's who my father was. Everyone loved him, thought he was so funny. Thought he was a cool guy. Smart. As a kid he was a good quiet kid. He became a monster. The only thing he liked more than raping children was lying and making himself into more than he was. Conning people. Making him think he was big important stuff when really - as the captain says - he was just a piece of sh*t.

    First off this one was hard to listen to, not because of the crimes but because I am the child of a man with very similar personality traits and characteristics of this man, a man who is also serving 50 years in prison for crimes done to myself and my sister, though his victims are likely far more than that.
    My gut feeling when you started talking about this guy's life and who he is, he's most likely a pathological liar who gets off not only on hurting other people, but on creating a monstrous persona built mostly of lies and the feeling of power that it gives him.
    I highly doubt he killed that 12 year old. As you said, probably just fantasized about it or even fed off someone else's story in prison. I highly doubt he killed any other than those 2 "houseless" ? men in that one instance where he gloated about killing 5 people in that short amount of time. I *highly* doubt he turned any of his victims into sandwiches. He sounds like a guy that is not only real scum but tries to make up for it by creating a false persona with maybe a few real truths as building blocks.
    That's who my father was. Everyone loved him, thought he was so funny. Thought he was a cool guy. Smart. As a kid he was a good quiet kid. He became a monster. The only thing he liked more than raping children was lying and making himself into more than he was. Conning people. Making him think he was big important stuff when really - as the captain says - he was just a piece of sh*t.

  • SuziBeth
    SuziBeth
    No attorney stepped up to take fatass's case. He had assigned council. Public defenders get what they get, and someone had to draw the short straw. Or fat straw...whatever.

    No attorney stepped up to take fatass's case. He had assigned council. Public defenders get what they get, and someone had to draw the short straw. Or fat straw...whatever.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Thanks SuziBeth - Cheers Nic

    Thanks SuziBeth - Cheers Nic

  • Anna
    Anna Seattle
    Maybe far reaching, but where did this guy grow up? I listened to the "500 pound serial killer" the case of Joseph Metheny who claims he killed a girl with red hair around the same time the Walker county Jane doe was killed. Then I found that a lady had posted a side by side comparison of these girls who could possibly be the Walker county Jane Doe who is the right age of the "girl with red hair" that he claimed to have killed. (Quoting from the original poster) "Girl on left is an unidentified person (possibly named Kathleen) whois a person interest in Walker County Jane Doe I believe approximate age may have been around 14 or 16 on or about the year 1980 when photo was taken. Girl in the right is well you know Julie Mosley. Tell me please why someone wouldn’t think these two are one in the same . When Julie went missing she was 9 years old in 1974. The picture of the unidentified girl was from about 1979 or 80. The years missing until 1980 would put Julie’s age at about 15. Can anyone tell my why they don’t look like the same person please." I think it could be a lead. There's so many Jane Does, I'd have to see if there were any where he grew up. I'll post this in the Facebook group discussion so you can see the picture of these girls.

    Maybe far reaching, but where did this guy grow up? I listened to the "500 pound serial killer" the case of Joseph Metheny who claims he killed a girl with red hair around the same time the Walker county Jane doe was killed.
    Then I found that a lady had posted a side by side comparison of these girls who could possibly be the Walker county Jane Doe who is the right age of the "girl with red hair" that he claimed to have killed.
    (Quoting from the original poster)
    "Girl on left is an unidentified person (possibly named Kathleen) whois a person interest in Walker County Jane Doe I believe approximate age may have been around 14 or 16 on or about the year 1980 when photo was taken.
    Girl in the right is well you know Julie Mosley. Tell me please why someone wouldn’t think these two are one in the same . When Julie went missing she was 9 years old in 1974. The picture of the unidentified girl was from about 1979 or 80. The years missing until 1980 would put Julie’s age at about 15.
    Can anyone tell my why they don’t look like the same person please."
    I think it could be a lead. There's so many Jane Does, I'd have to see if there were any where he grew up. I'll post this in the Facebook group discussion so you can see the picture of these girls.

  • Anna
    Anna Seattle
    This Jane doe was found murdered around the same time he claims to have murdered the red headed girl... https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/vicap/unidentified-persons/jane-doe-15

    This Jane doe was found murdered around the same time he claims to have murdered the red headed girl... https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/vicap/unidentified-persons/jane-doe-15

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    I can look into it. I didn’t keep a file on JM so it might be hard for me to piece this together with any speed. I got 5 cases that I’m working on right now. I remember at the time of putting this case together that I looked for missing girls in the area within a window of several years and there were none. Missing kids are always reported unless the parents are are guilty of something. Remember too, his story. He made it sounds as though she was buried or still there for a good deal of time. I’ll have to go back and look into this when I get a break. Cheers and thanks for these great posts. - Nic

    I can look into it. I didn’t keep a file on JM so it might be hard for me to piece this together with any speed. I got 5 cases that I’m working on right now. I remember at the time of putting this case together that I looked for missing girls in the area within a window of several years and there were none. Missing kids are always reported unless the parents are are guilty of something.
    Remember too, his story. He made it sounds as though she was buried or still there for a good deal of time. I’ll have to go back and look into this when I get a break.
    Cheers and thanks for these great posts. - Nic

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