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  • Jeff
    Jeff Baton Rouge
    Captain stirrin' shit with the Bridge Guy connection! Josh rushed into the house so he can be a hero just like Captain said, and good point that you affirm he would have to be deranged. Arsonist are deranged anyway.

    Captain stirrin' shit with the Bridge Guy connection! Josh rushed into the house so he can be a hero just like Captain said, and good point that you affirm he would have to be deranged. Arsonist are deranged anyway.

  • Scruffy
    Scruffy Australia
    Thanks for another great show. I don't know much about true crime, but I smell really good! 😎

    Thanks for another great show. I don't know much about true crime, but I smell really good! 😎

  • I would find it hard to believe a random person breaking into an occupied home to start a fire, if they are a "true arsonist". Maybe breaking in while no one was home and setting up a future fire is possible which would require a more sophisticated approach. This could possibly be accomplished by a first responder, just to return to the scene. The fire department would have a report that details what they saw, where they saw it, and what they did. This is important information that gives insight into fire behavior, heat intensity, the flow path, etc. Fire behavior and efforts to extinguish could play a role in deciding if an accelerant was used. And yes, we don't know if someone knocked over a flammable liquid inside the home when they were blinded by the smoke. It sounds like the investigators are keeping this important information, as you guys said. Without more information, I don't think it was arson.

    I would find it hard to believe a random person breaking into an occupied home to start a fire, if they are a "true arsonist". Maybe breaking in while no one was home and setting up a future fire is possible which would require a more sophisticated approach. This could possibly be accomplished by a first responder, just to return to the scene.

    The fire department would have a report that details what they saw, where they saw it, and what they did. This is important information that gives insight into fire behavior, heat intensity, the flow path, etc. Fire behavior and efforts to extinguish could play a role in deciding if an accelerant was used. And yes, we don't know if someone knocked over a flammable liquid inside the home when they were blinded by the smoke. It sounds like the investigators are keeping this important information, as you guys said.

    Without more information, I don't think it was arson.

  • Kittie
    Kittie MD
    I had a lot of "good grief" moments listening to this one. First of all, no mention of who the father of the children. Even the estranged husband is not spoken of as if he is a father of one or all of those kids. Why? But yet we are going to mention race as a motive? C'mon man! Mom is obviously not so scared by sears or the landlord that she will go after them for money... but then is characterized as being too scared to cooperate fully with the police? And don't get me started on the smoke detector. I have removed batteries myself of pesky detectors which go off when I overcook something.... so it would have to be proven that the landlord knew there were no batteries in the smoke detector... or maybe when it melted they fell out and the lame fire investigation didn't find them or maybe it is more convenient for them to be missing. Were there any toxicology testing done on the kids? What if they had been given something to help them sleep? It feels like this case was brought out and trotted around for virtue signaling purposes. Bummer.

    I had a lot of "good grief" moments listening to this one. First of all, no mention of who the father of the children. Even the estranged husband is not spoken of as if he is a father of one or all of those kids. Why? But yet we are going to mention race as a motive? C'mon man! Mom is obviously not so scared by sears or the landlord that she will go after them for money... but then is characterized as being too scared to cooperate fully with the police? And don't get me started on the smoke detector. I have removed batteries myself of pesky detectors which go off when I overcook something.... so it would have to be proven that the landlord knew there were no batteries in the smoke detector... or maybe when it melted they fell out and the lame fire investigation didn't find them or maybe it is more convenient for them to be missing. Were there any toxicology testing done on the kids? What if they had been given something to help them sleep? It feels like this case was brought out and trotted around for virtue signaling purposes. Bummer.

  • Lee
    Lee French Lick, IN
    Something which stuck with me while listening to this episode was the next door neighbor. It was mentioned that she was home alone as her two daughters were not home that night. The potential that the incorrect section of the duplex was targeted seems plausible. I am guessing her family/relationships were investigated but cannot make that assumption as certainity.

    Something which stuck with me while listening to this episode was the next door neighbor. It was mentioned that she was home alone as her two daughters were not home that night. The potential that the incorrect section of the duplex was targeted seems plausible. I am guessing her family/relationships were investigated but cannot make that assumption as certainity.

  • Zimmerman The Gnome
    Zimmerman The Gnome Scotland
    Not enough info available for anyone to know anything for sure. Can't see this one getting solved. It is slightly concerning the police say they aren't getting all the details they need from family. I get the mum moved and would be trying to move on but surely anything to help solve this case would help the police.

    Not enough info available for anyone to know anything for sure. Can't see this one getting solved.
    It is slightly concerning the police say they aren't getting all the details they need from family. I get the mum moved and would be trying to move on but surely anything to help solve this case would help the police.

  • Tony
    Tony Cape Cod
    I find it hard to believe that a person could be asleep downstairs while someone enters the home, pours accelerant and starts a fire that develops enough to deny a mother movement upstairs to her four children and leaves without a trace before that mother wakes up. Also: puzzled by total lack of description of the methods used to establish a claim of arson when the up-ended negative assessment is clearly described. It seems as if a faceless pronouncement has been anointed while dismissing a vouched-for conclusion, and without any basis for why we should trust this turn of events.

    I find it hard to believe that a person could be asleep downstairs while someone enters the home, pours accelerant and starts a fire that develops enough to deny a mother movement upstairs to her four children and leaves without a trace before that mother wakes up.

    Also: puzzled by total lack of description of the methods used to establish a claim of arson when the up-ended negative assessment is clearly described. It seems as if a faceless pronouncement has been anointed while dismissing a vouched-for conclusion, and without any basis for why we should trust this turn of events.

  • Daniel C
    Daniel C Fargo
    I'm also not convinced an arson happened. If it did, the mother is clearly the roadblock in the investigation. It started inside the home (probably) and she isn't forthcoming about who had access. If she isn't serious about solving this, what can any of us do and why should we care?

    I'm also not convinced an arson happened. If it did, the mother is clearly the roadblock in the investigation. It started inside the home (probably) and she isn't forthcoming about who had access. If she isn't serious about solving this, what can any of us do and why should we care?

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