Jaliek Rainwalker /// 418 /// 419

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  • Matt
    Matt Virginia
    Green-wich?! C'mon, Nic...

    Green-wich?! C'mon, Nic...

  • sallie
    sallie parts unknown
    Greenwich in pronounced grennich.

    Greenwich in pronounced grennich.

  • Duff
    Duff Owego, NY
    Don’t know if anyone already commented on this, but the reference to “why did Franti yell fire?” in the media letter is the song “Yell Fire” by Michael Franti.

    Don’t know if anyone already commented on this, but the reference to “why did Franti yell fire?” in the media letter is the song “Yell Fire” by Michael Franti.

  • Kali
    Kali Kansas
    I know the second half hasn’t aired yet, but I had a few thoughts to share. This story is heart breaking. It sounds very similar to the case of Serenity Denard. You guys should cover that one as well. I’m afraid that this poor boy either met with foul play at the hands of those who were supposed to love him or he was “re-homed” which is a disgusting online practice. What I don’t understand is how do you not realize he was leaving the room? There’s 7 of you in there an no one hears someone leave? Yeah right. I would believe that he’d at least attempt to run away. Why would you want to stay in a home that’s physically and verbally abusive? I hope that this poor boy gets justice or his found safe. The system seems to have failed him from the beginning.

    I know the second half hasn’t aired yet, but I had a few thoughts to share. This story is heart breaking. It sounds very similar to the case of Serenity Denard. You guys should cover that one as well. I’m afraid that this poor boy either met with foul play at the hands of those who were supposed to love him or he was “re-homed” which is a disgusting online practice. What I don’t understand is how do you not realize he was leaving the room? There’s 7 of you in there an no one hears someone leave? Yeah right. I would believe that he’d at least attempt to run away. Why would you want to stay in a home that’s physically and verbally abusive? I hope that this poor boy gets justice or his found safe. The system seems to have failed him from the beginning.

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    @ Matt and Sallie - I was told by people from the area that it is Green-wich. Grennich is for Greenwich Village and Greenwich Connecticut. Cheers Nic

    @ Matt and Sallie -
    I was told by people from the area that it is Green-wich.
    Grennich is for Greenwich Village and Greenwich Connecticut.
    Cheers Nic

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Thanks Duff - I was looking that up while we were recording. & Thanks Kali - for posting. Serenity's case is certainly a sad one. Cheers Nic

    Thanks Duff - I was looking that up while we were recording.
    & Thanks Kali - for posting. Serenity's case is certainly a sad one.
    Cheers Nic

  • Jamie
    Jamie TX
    An alternative to the schoolwork theory... I was wondering if the "goodbye" letter could have been written by Jaliek some other time. He was clearly troubled... he could have tried to run away before, it didn't work out or he was found, and his father kept the note to use in the future. This was a really good episode/case... can't wait for the second part. I wish there was more on the internet out there about this.

    An alternative to the schoolwork theory... I was wondering if the "goodbye" letter could have been written by Jaliek some other time. He was clearly troubled... he could have tried to run away before, it didn't work out or he was found, and his father kept the note to use in the future. This was a really good episode/case... can't wait for the second part. I wish there was more on the internet out there about this.

  • Matt
    Matt Virginia
    Well, I'll be damned...you're right. Looks like upstate New York takes after Ohio when it comes to butchering pronunciations. :)

    Well, I'll be damned...you're right. Looks like upstate New York takes after Ohio when it comes to butchering pronunciations. smile

  • Kali
    Kali Kansas
    There’s a Main Street where I live also pronounced like Green-Witch. Or like El Dorado we pronounce it El Doe-ray-doe, and Ar-Kansas City not like the state. It’s just regional pronunciation. I’m not one to get pissy about little things, but I feel like calling out someone like that is silly. There’s a missing, potentially dead, and everyone wants to be the grammar police. Plus it’s bad manners to call someone out like that.

    There’s a Main Street where I live also pronounced like Green-Witch. Or like El Dorado we pronounce it El Doe-ray-doe, and Ar-Kansas City not like the state. It’s just regional pronunciation. I’m not one to get pissy about little things, but I feel like calling out someone like that is silly. There’s a missing, potentially dead, and everyone wants to be the grammar police. Plus it’s bad manners to call someone out like that.

  • Taylor
    Taylor California
    Adopted person here - After you go through the long legal process of adopting (which is when all the inspections and everything take place), you are a legal child of that family and there are really not too many legal/socialwork related things that happen outside of traditional family stuff (which I view as positive, personally). Essentially a family with adoptees is just like every other family and would not have any reason to be investigated unless there was special cause. However, where we see stipends like Jaliek's Family received, there are much higher rates of abusing the system for a check. I fully agree the parents at the VERY LEAST know more (if they weren't responsible themselves.) This poor boy had the odds stacked against him literally before his birth...

    Adopted person here -

    After you go through the long legal process of adopting (which is when all the inspections and everything take place), you are a legal child of that family and there are really not too many legal/socialwork related things that happen outside of traditional family stuff (which I view as positive, personally). Essentially a family with adoptees is just like every other family and would not have any reason to be investigated unless there was special cause. However, where we see stipends like Jaliek's Family received, there are much higher rates of abusing the system for a check.

    I fully agree the parents at the VERY LEAST know more (if they weren't responsible themselves.) This poor boy had the odds stacked against him literally before his birth...

  • Kali
    Kali Kansas
    Sorry didn’t mean to be so hateful. I had to skip lunch today so I’m a little hangry 😂

    Sorry didn’t mean to be so hateful. I had to skip lunch today so I’m a little hangry 😂

  • Francie
    Francie Upstate NY
    I live in the area and any time bones are found in the woods, Jaliek is the first person I think of. My money is on the adoptive parents. I'd be curious to hear what the other kids in the house have to say about what they think / know happened.

    I live in the area and any time bones are found in the woods, Jaliek is the first person I think of. My money is on the adoptive parents. I'd be curious to hear what the other kids in the house have to say about what they think / know happened.

  • Christina
    Christina Waxhaw, NC
    Oh my gosh! Gerry/Jerry Gergich! Yes! Love ya, Cap!

    Oh my gosh! Gerry/Jerry Gergich! Yes! Love ya, Cap!

  • Chelsea Ricks
    Chelsea Ricks Michigan
    Hey there, this is a girl from Up North. This story hits close to home as I am a Youth Specialist who works one-on-one with these types of kids. There are many, many Jaliek Rainwalkers out there who are under guardianship of either a foster parent or an extended family member who was appointed or somehow were "stuck" raising these kids. Most of the time staff is offered to these guardians to assist because there are kids who have behavioral issues, delinquent, at-risk, etc. On top of staff working with the kids in the home, the case manager is in the home at least once a month; however, we have seen it where that once a month visit is totally staged. In Jaliek's case, I found it extremely troubling that staff was not working in the home - instead he was staying with the respite worker for a few days (if I remember correctly) which is completely strange to me. These hippies can rot - they know what they did and we know what they did.

    Hey there, this is a girl from Up North. This story hits close to home as I am a Youth Specialist who works one-on-one with these types of kids.

    There are many, many Jaliek Rainwalkers out there who are under guardianship of either a foster parent or an extended family member who was appointed or somehow were "stuck" raising these kids. Most of the time staff is offered to these guardians to assist because there are kids who have behavioral issues, delinquent, at-risk, etc. On top of staff working with the kids in the home, the case manager is in the home at least once a month; however, we have seen it where that once a month visit is totally staged.

    In Jaliek's case, I found it extremely troubling that staff was not working in the home - instead he was staying with the respite worker for a few days (if I remember correctly) which is completely strange to me.

    These hippies can rot - they know what they did and we know what they did.

  • Mark
    Mark Virginia
    Get rid of the captain. He’s killing the show and makes no sense

    Get rid of the captain. He’s killing the show and makes no sense

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Mark • Virginia Then how would we produce the show? Who would edit it? Would have to change the name? No new music every week? No website or social media.

    Mark • Virginia

    Then how would we produce the show? Who would edit it? Would have to change the name? No new music every week? No website or social media.

  • Oregon Buckeye
    Oregon Buckeye Not Desolation Lake
    Hey Guys-- This was a terrific couple of episodes. I put off listening to it for a while, but I was sucked right in. A couple of points, maybe three. 1. I have some tangential experience with the foster system out here. It is an income source for certain people. Monthly stipends from the government per child, food stamps, free health care for the kids. I knew a woman, in her mid fifties, wheelchair bound, with five foster kids, all below the age of fourteen, in her care. She couldn't take care of them, but it was a nice chunk of change she was bringing in. Of course, this is not all foster parents, but it is a subset. Kids with special needs bring in more money. If you're not doing a thing for them, that's money in your pocket. I guess it's a trade-off as the thinking is this is better than state care or a group home? 2. That voice analysis system is a load of pseudo-science bunk. Right up there with phrenology and handwriting analysis and so on. 3. This is one of the best-sounding shows out there. That and the Captain's "centaur" comment is still the funniest line I've heard on a podcast maybe ever.

    Hey Guys--

    This was a terrific couple of episodes. I put off listening to it for a while, but I was sucked right in. A couple of points, maybe three.

    1. I have some tangential experience with the foster system out here. It is an income source for certain people. Monthly stipends from the government per child, food stamps, free health care for the kids. I knew a woman, in her mid fifties, wheelchair bound, with five foster kids, all below the age of fourteen, in her care. She couldn't take care of them, but it was a nice chunk of change she was bringing in. Of course, this is not all foster parents, but it is a subset. Kids with special needs bring in more money. If you're not doing a thing for them, that's money in your pocket. I guess it's a trade-off as the thinking is this is better than state care or a group home?

    2. That voice analysis system is a load of pseudo-science bunk. Right up there with phrenology and handwriting analysis and so on.

    3. This is one of the best-sounding shows out there. That and the Captain's "centaur" comment is still the funniest line I've heard on a podcast maybe ever.

  • Nan
    Nan Parts Unknown
    Why do you not mention the fact that Jaliek had Reactive Attachment Disorder? This is central to this case but yet you do not discuss it. A hallmark of RAD is kids running away and having hours to days long tantrums. Check out the Vanished podcast episode on Serenity Dennard; Marissa interviews an expert on RAD. Seems to me if you had explored that more you might have had a different conclusion.

    Why do you not mention the fact that Jaliek had Reactive Attachment Disorder? This is central to this case but yet you do not discuss it. A hallmark of RAD is kids running away and having hours to days long tantrums. Check out the Vanished podcast episode on Serenity Dennard; Marissa interviews an expert on RAD. Seems to me if you had explored that more you might have had a different conclusion.

  • NM
    NM Parts Unknown
    A central part of this story that you didn't focus on is the fact that Jaliek suffers from Reactive Attachment Disorder. The Vanished podcast does a great episode on Serenity Dennard and Marissa interviews an expert on RAD. This is so important to Jaliek's story because kids who suffer from RAD have hours-long and can genuinely endanger other children in a household. Most importantly, kids with RAD tend to run away a LOT. There is another story in the news today about a family who ran a VLOG and adopted a child with RAD and they had to reverse the adoption to place the child in a household prepared to handle his condition.

    A central part of this story that you didn't focus on is the fact that Jaliek suffers from Reactive Attachment Disorder. The Vanished podcast does a great episode on Serenity Dennard and Marissa interviews an expert on RAD. This is so important to Jaliek's story because kids who suffer from RAD have hours-long and can genuinely endanger other children in a household. Most importantly, kids with RAD tend to run away a LOT. There is another story in the news today about a family who ran a VLOG and adopted a child with RAD and they had to reverse the adoption to place the child in a household prepared to handle his condition.

  • mH
    mH tX
    You guys (Captain really) need to be careful about what you guys say about individuals that are not public figures and have not been charged with a crime. There is such a thing as slander. Might want a lawyer on call Even though the adopted father does sound like a real piece of ,,,,

    You guys (Captain really) need to be careful about what you guys say about individuals that are not public figures and have not been charged with a crime. There is such a thing as slander. Might want a lawyer on call Even though the adopted father does sound like a real piece of ,,,,

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