LeeAnna Warner /// 516 /// 517

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  • Kell
    Kell Arizona
    Why aren't you going to breweries in the future? Curious comment in the intro..?

    Why aren't you going to breweries in the future? Curious comment in the intro..?

  • AshMC1117
    AshMC1117
    Listening to pt 1 of LeeAnna Warner. I haven’t had a lot of time to look into it a lot yet, but just wanted to put this out there. What if the 2 eyewitnesses that supposedly saw LeeAnne at the Quirk’s house were really seeing LeeAnne’s sister? According to the “official timeline” from the Minneapolis Star Tribune, this would make some sense. LeeAnna leaves her house @4:35. The eyewitnesses say they see LeeAnna knock on the Quirk’s door @5:15 then turn around when she finds that no one is home. Then @5:30, her mom realized LeeAnna hadn’t returned home, and then sent LeeAnna’s sister to the friend’s house to see if LeeAnna was there. She wasn’t there, so the sister then goes back home to tell mom. Let’s just say that the time the eyewitnesses say to see LeeAnna at the Quirk’s house and the time the mom sent the older sister to look for LeeAnna are off by just a few minutes each. Then sometime between 5:15-5:30, the mom realizes it’s been well over a half hour and LeeAnna isn’t home yet, then sends the sister to the Quirk’s to look for her, and that’s actually who the eyewitnesses are seeing. This could also explain why the scent dogs didn’t hit on LeeAnna’s scent at the Quirk’s, because maybe LeeAnna never made it there at all. I don’t know how old the sister is, but from what I’ve read so far, it would seem she is at least 2-3 years older than LeeAnna. So some might ask “how could the eyewitnesses have mistaken them if there’s a few years of an age gap?” I don’t really see a problem with that, as there are probably plenty of times that my neighbors have mistaken my daughters for each other even though they are each a few years apart, especially if they are seeing them from a yard or so away, or from the window. If I would go to them and say “hey, did you see [specific child’s name] over at so-and-so’s house a little bit ago?” And if they saw any 3 of my girls at so-and-so’s house then they would probably say yes, no matter which one it was, just assuming it was the specific one I asked about. However, if I said “hey, did you see one of my daughters at so-and-so’s house a little bit ago, and if you did, could you tell me which one it was?” and in that way I would not be putting a specific name in their head to begin with, and then they may not be able to tell me which one it was. Just a thought. I have to go do some more digging 🙂 Thank you guys for doing what you do, Ashley

    Listening to pt 1 of LeeAnna Warner. I haven’t had a lot of time to look into it a lot yet, but just wanted to put this out there. What if the 2 eyewitnesses that supposedly saw LeeAnne at the Quirk’s house were really seeing LeeAnne’s sister? According to the “official timeline” from the Minneapolis Star Tribune, this would make some sense. LeeAnna leaves her house @4:35. The eyewitnesses say they see LeeAnna knock on the Quirk’s door @5:15 then turn around when she finds that no one is home. Then @5:30, her mom realized LeeAnna hadn’t returned home, and then sent LeeAnna’s sister to the friend’s house to see if LeeAnna was there. She wasn’t there, so the sister then goes back home to tell mom. Let’s just say that the time the eyewitnesses say to see LeeAnna at the Quirk’s house and the time the mom sent the older sister to look for LeeAnna are off by just a few minutes each. Then sometime between 5:15-5:30, the mom realizes it’s been well over a half hour and LeeAnna isn’t home yet, then sends the sister to the Quirk’s to look for her, and that’s actually who the eyewitnesses are seeing. This could also explain why the scent dogs didn’t hit on LeeAnna’s scent at the Quirk’s, because maybe LeeAnna never made it there at all.
    I don’t know how old the sister is, but from what I’ve read so far, it would seem she is at least 2-3 years older than LeeAnna. So some might ask “how could the eyewitnesses have mistaken them if there’s a few years of an age gap?” I don’t really see a problem with that, as there are probably plenty of times that my neighbors have mistaken my daughters for each other even though they are each a few years apart, especially if they are seeing them from a yard or so away, or from the window. If I would go to them and say “hey, did you see [specific child’s name] over at so-and-so’s house a little bit ago?” And if they saw any 3 of my girls at so-and-so’s house then they would probably say yes, no matter which one it was, just assuming it was the specific one I asked about. However, if I said “hey, did you see one of my daughters at so-and-so’s house a little bit ago, and if you did, could you tell me which one it was?” and in that way I would not be putting a specific name in their head to begin with, and then they may not be able to tell me which one it was.
    Just a thought. I have to go do some more digging 🙂
    Thank you guys for doing what you do,
    Ashley

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    @ Kell - hello, we featured beers from the Bruery for 4 weeks in a row. I did a theme of Clutch references and Bruery beers for all of August. We will continue to drink them and feature them but I said we would it will be our last Bruery beer for awhile - not forever. We need to feature some other brewers. Cheers Nic

    @ Kell - hello, we featured beers from the Bruery for 4 weeks in a row. I did a theme of Clutch references and Bruery beers for all of August. We will continue to drink them and feature them but I said we would it will be our last Bruery beer for awhile - not forever. We need to feature some other brewers.
    Cheers Nic

  • Nicole
    Nicole Rice mn
    Thank you for covering this story. I lived in Chisholm at the time and grew up in Chisholm. It is mystery that has bothered me through the years.

    Thank you for covering this story. I lived in Chisholm at the time and grew up in Chisholm. It is mystery that has bothered me through the years.

  • Christina
    Christina Waxhaw, NC
    I'm only about 20 minutes into Pt. 1, but I just cannot grasp the idea of a 5yo just roaming the neighborhood. It was mentioned that the mayor would see her sometimes. I hate the idea of any parent having a child missing but, man, that seems irresponsible. I have to admit, however, that I'm a mom of twin boys who are eleven and I've been accused of being a "helicopter mom" when they were younger, so I realize I might be biased. I just can't imagine sending a 5yo out the door like that!

    I'm only about 20 minutes into Pt. 1, but I just cannot grasp the idea of a 5yo just roaming the neighborhood. It was mentioned that the mayor would see her sometimes. I hate the idea of any parent having a child missing but, man, that seems irresponsible. I have to admit, however, that I'm a mom of twin boys who are eleven and I've been accused of being a "helicopter mom" when they were younger, so I realize I might be biased. I just can't imagine sending a 5yo out the door like that!

  • AL - Montréal
    AL - Montréal
    I had never heard of this case before and while listening was struck by its parallels to the active and ongoing investigation into the disappearance of Summer Wells. Had social media been what it is today back in 2003 I have no doubt that wild speculation and rumour regarding the Warner family and their possible involvement in LeeAnna’s disappearance would have been rampant and may have hindered the case. We have the benefit of time to look back and see any Warner involvement is very unlikely. When a child goes missing for a significant amount of time, without any trace, the possibility of a stranger abduction becomes plausible. This is so extremely rare but not implausible- look to Asha Degree, or Jacob Wetterling… I guess I’m just struck by , perturbed, and frustrated with the conviction of so many in online communities that point to family involvement in Summer Wells’s case and can only imagine the online propaganda and slandering of the Warner family were this case to have happened today. Listening to this two parter really had me questioning whether social media could have helped or hindered the case, and to what degree social media currently helps or hinders cases of missing children.

    I had never heard of this case before and while listening was struck by its parallels to the active and ongoing investigation into the disappearance of Summer Wells. Had social media been what it is today back in 2003 I have no doubt that wild speculation and rumour regarding the Warner family and their possible involvement in LeeAnna’s disappearance would have been rampant and may have hindered the case. We have the benefit of time to look back and see any Warner involvement is very unlikely. When a child goes missing for a significant amount of time, without any trace, the possibility of a stranger abduction becomes plausible. This is so extremely rare but not implausible- look to Asha Degree, or Jacob Wetterling…

    I guess I’m just struck by , perturbed, and frustrated with the conviction of so many in online communities that point to family involvement in Summer Wells’s case and can only imagine the online propaganda and slandering of the Warner family were this case to have happened today. Listening to this two parter really had me questioning whether social media could have helped or hindered the case, and to what degree social media currently helps or hinders cases of missing children.

  • Cookie
    Cookie Topeka
    Did LE look into details of that ambulance run?

    Did LE look into details of that ambulance run?

  • Gabi
    Gabi NJ
    Hello TCG! I love your work, however I have a suggestion: can we not use the term "child pornography"? My problem is pornography, in my opinion, is consensual. A child can't consent. I heard the term: "child abuse photography". Thank you!

    Hello TCG!

    I love your work, however I have a suggestion: can we not use the term "child pornography"?

    My problem is pornography, in my opinion, is consensual. A child can't consent.

    I heard the term: "child abuse photography".

    Thank you!

  • Cookie
    Cookie Topeka
    I tend to trust dogs more than eye witnesses but good point on coming back around. Sounds like someone outside window, wonder about sleeping situation. Curtis sounds like the perp.

    I tend to trust dogs more than eye witnesses but good point on coming back around. Sounds like someone outside window, wonder about sleeping situation. Curtis sounds like the perp.

  • Candace
    Candace Texas
    Listening to the intro, I also heard “brewery” not “Bruery” so I had the same question Kelli did! Glad to see someone else asked and that you’ll still be doing beer reviews each episode (just not from Bruery for a while). Keep up the great work guys! Cheers! Hope y’all have a meet up in Dallas sometime :-)

    Listening to the intro, I also heard “brewery” not “Bruery” so I had the same question Kelli did! Glad to see someone else asked and that you’ll still be doing beer reviews each episode (just not from Bruery for a while).

    Keep up the great work guys! Cheers! Hope y’all have a meet up in Dallas sometime :-)

  • Lori
    Lori Nevada
    Hey guys, great job on these episodes. I had a thought about Leanna’s shoes. It was stated that Leeanna was at the friends house the previous night, presumably late (watched movie?). Perhaps it is common practice for that family to leave shoes at the door and when Leeanna left that night she didn’t get her shoes and maybe no one really noticed until later when she goes missing. Just a thought. Anyway I appreciate the time and effort (and passion) you put into exploring all the ideas that we the listener’s might be wondering about. A nice, polished podcast.

    Hey guys, great job on these episodes. I had a thought about Leanna’s shoes. It was stated that Leeanna was at the friends house the previous night, presumably late (watched movie?). Perhaps it is common practice for that family to leave shoes at the door and when Leeanna left that night she didn’t get her shoes and maybe no one really noticed until later when she goes missing. Just a thought. Anyway I appreciate the time and effort (and passion) you put into exploring all the ideas that we the listener’s might be wondering about. A nice, polished podcast.

  • Amy
    Amy KCMO
    I was already pissed when I started part 1. Now I'm livid!!! Someone knows where this baby is. I totally agree that it's hard to understand why her mom wouldnt walk her down to the neighbors and watch her go inside. She's FIVE!!! My daughter is almost 3 and she's super smart but no way would I let her do anything by herself like that. When I heard about the bag of dolls & clothes I immediately thought someone gave those to her as a gift to groom her. And it reminded me of the JB case too like Captain said, she was gonna take a trip without her parents just like JB said Santa was going to give her a special visit. It's so hard to tell wether a kid just has an active imagination or is telling the truth or somewhere in between. So I don't blame anyone for not looking into the "monsters outside my window" thing. Although now looking back that is so creepy

    I was already pissed when I started part 1. Now I'm livid!!! Someone knows where this baby is. I totally agree that it's hard to understand why her mom wouldnt walk her down to the neighbors and watch her go inside. She's FIVE!!! My daughter is almost 3 and she's super smart but no way would I let her do anything by herself like that. When I heard about the bag of dolls & clothes I immediately thought someone gave those to her as a gift to groom her. And it reminded me of the JB case too like Captain said, she was gonna take a trip without her parents just like JB said Santa was going to give her a special visit. It's so hard to tell wether a kid just has an active imagination or is telling the truth or somewhere in between. So I don't blame anyone for not looking into the "monsters outside my window" thing. Although now looking back that is so creepy

  • Nicole
    Nicole Miami, FL
    I try very hard not to be too judgmental about parents of missing children, but this case had me screaming. The "odd behavior" the parents reported (little old lady giving dolls and doll clothes to Leeanna, talk of another family, people outside of her window), why was it still the standard to allow her to walk around the neighborhood alone? That little old lady story alone would have had me changing the rules and not allow her to wander the neighborhood without a parent in eyesight. Very creepy that someone was obviously grooming her for weeks before she went missing and sad that family rules hadn't been changed to address this.

    I try very hard not to be too judgmental about parents of missing children, but this case had me screaming. The "odd behavior" the parents reported (little old lady giving dolls and doll clothes to Leeanna, talk of another family, people outside of her window), why was it still the standard to allow her to walk around the neighborhood alone? That little old lady story alone would have had me changing the rules and not allow her to wander the neighborhood without a parent in eyesight. Very creepy that someone was obviously grooming her for weeks before she went missing and sad that family rules hadn't been changed to address this.

  • chris
    chris fl
    So, this mother allows a 5 year old to wander the neighborhood shoeless and ride her bike to lakes and all this unsupervised? The mother doesn’t even call the other family to make sure they’re home before letting the child go. If she didn’t have a direct hand in this child’s death, she certainly made it possible. It was 2003 – way way way past Mayberry-era across this entire country. The mother should have been charged. Folks, I know it’s hard, but you need to keep an eye on your own kids. It does not take a village — it takes parents. Do better.

    So, this mother allows a 5 year old to wander the neighborhood shoeless and ride her bike to lakes and all this unsupervised? The mother doesn’t even call the other family to make sure they’re home before letting the child go. If she didn’t have a direct hand in this child’s death, she certainly made it possible. It was 2003 – way way way past Mayberry-era across this entire country. The mother should have been charged.

    Folks, I know it’s hard, but you need to keep an eye on your own kids. It does not take a village — it takes parents. Do better.

  • Nikki
    Nikki Unkown
    I agree with the one person who said eyewitnesses could have mistaken the sister for her. They prob saw a girl and a assumed it was her blending it with all the other times Leanna walked to the quirks. It seems like the little girl had a nightly pattern which we all know is dangerous. All it would take is for some creep to see her one night so they wait and watch and notice her walking alone 2 or 3 nights in a row and it would be that hard to make a plan. Seems like someone was following/stalking/grooming her which is horrifying. Best case it was a family who just wanted a kid. I'm not optimistic enough to believe that but odds are this creep saw her nightly routine and had the opportunity to pounce. I bet it was never her that they saw at the door and maybe she saw.barbie creep parked where her scent ended and just like that she's gone. Saying she's going to live with her new family and the missing not far after is too much of a coincidence

    I agree with the one person who said eyewitnesses could have mistaken the sister for her. They prob saw a girl and a assumed it was her blending it with all the other times Leanna walked to the quirks. It seems like the little girl had a nightly pattern which we all know is dangerous. All it would take is for some creep to see her one night so they wait and watch and notice her walking alone 2 or 3 nights in a row and it would be that hard to make a plan. Seems like someone was following/stalking/grooming her which is horrifying. Best case it was a family who just wanted a kid. I'm not optimistic enough to believe that but odds are this creep saw her nightly routine and had the opportunity to pounce. I bet it was never her that they saw at the door and maybe she saw.barbie creep parked where her scent ended and just like that she's gone. Saying she's going to live with her new family and the missing not far after is too much of a coincidence

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    @ Lori - great thought about the shoes. Cheers Nic

    @ Lori - great thought about the shoes. Cheers Nic

  • Allie
    Allie Illinois
    Great coverage of case I had no idea about I have some thoughts- as a mom of two little kids under the age of 6 I am still shocked about letting their 5 and 6 month old walk alone to a friends home with out watching her, a phone call, or assisting her in some way. I don’t think a five year old would remember directions either. And we are talking 2000 something not 1970 or even the 90s when this was more common. However I understood that everyone’s different and maybe her mom was trusting of all humans. But then after the doll gift I am much more skeptical- is my kid comes home with a big gift of dolls you better believe I’m investigating that like the GOAT Of TCG himself!! So bizarre, where were parents or adult supervision when this gift was given? 5 years old are always swiped used at schools or activities as their age requires it. If my kid had recently had this bizarre gift event as a parent I would be even more on alert for their safety then ever before so there would be NO walking the streets ALONE...... just some thought s.....

    Great coverage of case I had no idea about

    I have some thoughts- as a mom of two little kids under the age of 6 I am still shocked about letting their 5 and 6 month old walk alone to a friends home with out watching her, a phone call, or assisting her in some way. I don’t think a five year old would remember directions either.
    And we are talking 2000 something not 1970 or even the 90s when this was more common.
    However I understood that everyone’s different and maybe her mom was trusting of all humans. But then after the doll gift I am much more skeptical- is my kid comes home with a big gift of dolls you better believe I’m investigating that like the GOAT Of TCG himself!! So bizarre, where were parents or adult supervision when this gift was given? 5 years old are always swiped used at schools or activities as their age requires it. If my kid had recently had this bizarre gift event as a parent I would be even more on alert for their safety then ever before so there would be NO walking the streets ALONE...... just some thought s.....

  • KD
    KD Richfield, MN
    I am wondering if they had cadaver dogs go through Curtis' home? He may not have needed to use his car. I also like the comment that the sister was who the eye witness possibly saw, then it would make sense why the dogs never went to that house.

    I am wondering if they had cadaver dogs go through Curtis' home? He may not have needed to use his car.
    I also like the comment that the sister was who the eye witness possibly saw, then it would make sense why the dogs never went to that house.

  • Craig
    Craig Hibbing Mn.
    On the the day of the day of the Leanne Warner kidnapping I was taking my son to a concert at iron world in Chisholm. On the exit on the east side of town a vehicle shot the stop sign right in front of me fairly good-sized driver brown hair locks in his hair curls and a tattoo on his left arm he was holding a child down while driving. I have been to the police numerous times to report what I saw including description of the vehicle. And driver. The first time was shortly after the kidnapping they said they would get back to me never did. The most recent visit was May 6th of this year. I know what I saw but every time I left the police station I felt like they did not believe what I was telling them. A co-worker sent me a link of your show so while listing to the program you talked about Joseph E Dunken. So I googled him and to my surprise the hair looks exactly what I told them every time. I did have a hard time finding his left arm but I do see the tattoo that I saw. I have spent many sleepless nights with disgust because I know what I saw and it has haunted me since. And the description that I gave the police department is identical to the mugshots as what I saw and described to them.

    On the the day of the day of the Leanne Warner kidnapping I was taking my son to a concert at iron world in Chisholm. On the exit on the east side of town a vehicle shot the stop sign right in front of me fairly good-sized driver brown hair locks in his hair curls and a tattoo on his left arm he was holding a child down while driving. I have been to the police numerous times to report what I saw including description of the vehicle. And driver. The first time was shortly after the kidnapping they said they would get back to me never did.
    The most recent visit was May 6th of this year. I know what I saw but every time I left the police station I felt like they did not believe what I was telling them. A co-worker sent me a link of your show so while listing to the program you talked about Joseph E Dunken. So I googled him and to my surprise the hair looks exactly what I told them every time. I did have a hard time finding his left arm but I do see the tattoo that I saw. I have spent many sleepless nights with disgust because I know what I saw and it has haunted me since. And the description that I gave the police department is identical to the mugshots as what I saw and described to them.

  • Claire
    Claire Cork, Ireland
    I'm a parent of a four year old girl who's very chatty and friendly with everyone she meets. She'd often fall asleep in the car in the afternoon driving back from somewhere so the intro of this one really hit home for me. I do know after she wakes up from a nap that it takes a while for her to properly wake up, and throwing a tantrum straight after is very normal. She also doesn't think straight after and needs time to wake up and figure out her surroundings. Anyways, I have a few guesses of what might have happened to Leeanna. I agree a five year old does not know what 'come home in half an hour' means, but maybe after a family day out her mother just said it without thinking. I think it's very possible her older sister brought Leeanna's shoes to the Quirkes house when she went to pick up her sister and then found she wasn't there, and left the shoes at the door. And it's the older sister the witness's saw and not Leeanne (making the dogs correct and the witness's just mistaken). The gap in the witness's report seeing the child knocking isn't later because it took Leeanna longer to walk there, it's later because it's actually her sister going to look for her. It's quite likely that Leeanna walked back to the lake looking for someone to play with, and never went to the Quirkes. I'd trust the dogs as there were more that one dog looking for the scent. Since the scent goes from the lake, she most likely was taken from there by somebody. Such a nightmare situation for any family. My heart goes out to them.

    I'm a parent of a four year old girl who's very chatty and friendly with everyone she meets. She'd often fall asleep in the car in the afternoon driving back from somewhere so the intro of this one really hit home for me. I do know after she wakes up from a nap that it takes a while for her to properly wake up, and throwing a tantrum straight after is very normal. She also doesn't think straight after and needs time to wake up and figure out her surroundings. Anyways, I have a few guesses of what might have happened to Leeanna.

    I agree a five year old does not know what 'come home in half an hour' means, but maybe after a family day out her mother just said it without thinking. I think it's very possible her older sister brought Leeanna's shoes to the Quirkes house when she went to pick up her sister and then found she wasn't there, and left the shoes at the door. And it's the older sister the witness's saw and not Leeanne (making the dogs correct and the witness's just mistaken). The gap in the witness's report seeing the child knocking isn't later because it took Leeanna longer to walk there, it's later because it's actually her sister going to look for her.

    It's quite likely that Leeanna walked back to the lake looking for someone to play with, and never went to the Quirkes. I'd trust the dogs as there were more that one dog looking for the scent. Since the scent goes from the lake, she most likely was taken from there by somebody.

    Such a nightmare situation for any family. My heart goes out to them.

  • Luciana S
    Luciana S
    Thanks for covering LeeAnna’s case. Living in MN I remember this case well, I was 17 in 2003 when LeeAnna vanished. Sadly, her case doesn’t get the coverage it deserves. Someone knows something that could help solve the mystery of what happened to Beaner.

    Thanks for covering LeeAnna’s case. Living in MN I remember this case well, I was 17 in 2003 when LeeAnna vanished. Sadly, her case doesn’t get the coverage it deserves. Someone knows something that could help solve the mystery of what happened to Beaner.

  • Maddy
    Maddy Colorado
    I have always taken my children’s claims of being afraid of something super seriously. When my daughter was four she was afraid to sleep at night because an owl would come to her window and tell her to do things (clean her room and various innocuous things.). I put up a curtain to get rid of the owl. Even if it seem silly, it’s important to take things seriously because who knows, maybe there was a damn talking owl. Maybe there was someone outside LeeAnne’s window and maybe Santa did visit JonBenet…

    I have always taken my children’s claims of being afraid of something super seriously. When my daughter was four she was afraid to sleep at night because an owl would come to her window and tell her to do things (clean her room and various innocuous things.). I put up a curtain to get rid of the owl. Even if it seem silly, it’s important to take things seriously because who knows, maybe there was a damn talking owl. Maybe there was someone outside LeeAnne’s window and maybe Santa did visit JonBenet…

  • Kailyn
    Kailyn Kansas
    whenever you guys say kaelin i get super freaked since it’s not a common name where i’m from😅

    whenever you guys say kaelin i get super freaked since it’s not a common name where i’m from😅

  •  Christine
    Christine Spring Hill, KS
    If this 5 year old little girl walked daily to her friend’s house unsupervised EVERY DAY, it would be easy for a pedophile to notice and make a quick grab. So sad that a five year old would roam the streets on her own. Five. Years. Old. Even the mayor remembers seeing her on her own. Messed up. I get it, small town, kids running about more freely than cities, but 5 years is too young. Then mom sent another girl to check on her?

    If this 5 year old little girl walked daily to her friend’s house unsupervised EVERY DAY, it would be easy for a pedophile to notice and make a quick grab. So sad that a five year old would roam the streets on her own. Five. Years. Old. Even the mayor remembers seeing her on her own. Messed up. I get it, small town, kids running about more freely than cities, but 5 years is too young. Then mom sent another girl to check on her?

  • Christina S
    Christina S
    I lived on the iron range when this happened. I just don’t remember how far they searched sex offenders. I wish there was more info available on it. There was also a 2016 case in Bemidji MN, Jacob Kinn murdered and set fire to Mellisa Nordby and abducted the 5 yr old girl she was babysitting. It turned out she had some sort of sick relationship with him and was babysitting her friends daughter with plans of creating child sexual abuse material. He decided to murder Mellisa and abduct the child. He was later found in BigFork MN and arrested with the child bound but still alive. He would have been about 20 years old when Leanna was abducted but it just makes me believe there are more monsters out there like this and I would love to know if law enforcement searched as far out as Duluth MN to the east or as far west as Bemidji.

    I lived on the iron range when this happened. I just don’t remember how far they searched sex offenders. I wish there was more info available on it. There was also a 2016 case in Bemidji MN, Jacob Kinn murdered and set fire to Mellisa Nordby and abducted the 5 yr old girl she was babysitting. It turned out she had some sort of sick relationship with him and was babysitting her friends daughter with plans of creating child sexual abuse material. He decided to murder Mellisa and abduct the child. He was later found in BigFork MN and arrested with the child bound but still alive.
    He would have been about 20 years old when Leanna was abducted but it just makes me believe there are more monsters out there like this and I would love to know if law enforcement searched as far out as Duluth MN to the east or as far west as Bemidji.

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    True Crime Garage
    @ Craig - thanks for the post can you email me? Cheers Nic

    @ Craig - thanks for the post can you email me?
    Cheers Nic

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    True Crime Garage
    @ Christine - you are EXACTLY RIGHT! Thank you for posting. Cheers Nic

    @ Christine - you are EXACTLY RIGHT! Thank you for posting.
    Cheers Nic

  • Mariam
    Mariam Parts Unknown
    This case very much reminds me of Angie Housman. When you were talking toward the end of the episode, and you started talking about “another family,” I was shocked because Angie had told her teacher that she was going on a “trip to the countryside” with her uncle in the next few days before her disappearance. Very similar MO.

    This case very much reminds me of Angie Housman. When you were talking toward the end of the episode, and you started talking about “another family,” I was shocked because Angie had told her teacher that she was going on a “trip to the countryside” with her uncle in the next few days before her disappearance. Very similar MO.

  • Luciana S
    Luciana S
    Mariam, I also thought of Angie’s case as I listened to the episodes.

    Mariam, I also thought of Angie’s case as I listened to the episodes.

  • Nomad55
    Nomad55 Tennessee
    @ AshMC1117 excellent point!

    @ AshMC1117 excellent point!

  • Nicole
    Nicole Lansing
    I don't know much about scent dogs - but are they trained to distinguish "freshness" of scents? Like shouldn't they have picked up on Leeanna's scent from visiting the neighbors house the night before at least?

    I don't know much about scent dogs - but are they trained to distinguish "freshness" of scents? Like shouldn't they have picked up on Leeanna's scent from visiting the neighbors house the night before at least?

  • True Crime Garage
    True Crime Garage
    Hi Nicole - thank you for posting. The dogs in each case are always a little tricky. Here I don't recall if this was bold hounds brought in or a active K-9 unit on the local force or nearby. I do know that does make a difference as they have different reactions and operate differently from one another. If it were blood hounds then yes they should be able to detect scents for a period of time - I've been told everything from a few hours to weeks. It depends on who you ask and weather, wind and other factors. In this case in particular - I think the dogs were hitting on something and likely something important. Unfortunately we have a situation were they are either not 100% accurate or there is something tricky about what they were hitting on. If the latter or both were to be the case whatever they were trying to convey to the handler(S) likely was lost in translation. I still this on his very solvable. Someday we just may know exactly what happened here. Cheers Nic

    Hi Nicole - thank you for posting. The dogs in each case are always a little tricky. Here I don't recall if this was bold hounds brought in or a active K-9 unit on the local force or nearby. I do know that does make a difference as they have different reactions and operate differently from one another. If it were blood hounds then yes they should be able to detect scents for a period of time - I've been told everything from a few hours to weeks. It depends on who you ask and weather, wind and other factors. In this case in particular - I think the dogs were hitting on something and likely something important. Unfortunately we have a situation were they are either not 100% accurate or there is something tricky about what they were hitting on. If the latter or both were to be the case whatever they were trying to convey to the handler(S) likely was lost in translation.
    I still this on his very solvable. Someday we just may know exactly what happened here.
    Cheers Nic

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