Must See True Crime /// 420

Captain 

1. When They See Us - Netflix / The Central Park Five - PBS/ Amazon

2. Atlanta’s Missing & Murdered - The Lost Children - HBO 

3. The Lake Erie Murders - ID channel 

4. I Love You, Now Die - HBO

5. Unsolved Mysteries - Episode #1 Rey Rivera - Netflix 

Nic 

1. Evil Genius - Netflix 

2. Atlanta’s Missing & Murdered - The Lost Children - HBO 

3. Inside the Hunt for the Boston Bombers - National Geographic / Amazon 

4. Long Shot - Netflix 

5. Nightmare in Las Cruces - Amazon 

13 comments

  • John Blythe
    John Blythe Bakersfield, CA
    If you remember the Beverly McGowan episode from Unsolved Mysteries there was a one hour BBC special from 2002 profiling the case on her killer “The Chameleon”, Elaine Parent who was the dubbed The World’s Most Wanted Woman. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yfBcJOc_Hwc&t=2212s

    If you remember the Beverly McGowan episode from Unsolved Mysteries there was a one hour BBC special from 2002 profiling the case on her killer “The Chameleon”, Elaine Parent who was the dubbed The World’s Most Wanted Woman.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yfBcJOc_Hwc&t=2212s

  • Thomas
    Thomas Vienna
    Also the movies: Paradise Lost: The Child Murders At Robin Hood Hills + West Of Memphis, Capturing The Friedmans, Dear Zachary, The Thin Blue Line, Who Killed Johnny?, Deliver Us From Evil, Who Killed Garrett Phillips?, And the Series: The Staircase, Making A Murderer, Outcry, The Jinx, The Trials Of Gabriel Fernandez

    Also the movies: Paradise Lost: The Child Murders At Robin Hood Hills + West Of Memphis, Capturing The Friedmans, Dear Zachary, The Thin Blue Line, Who Killed Johnny?, Deliver Us From Evil, Who Killed Garrett Phillips?,
    And the Series: The Staircase, Making A Murderer, Outcry, The Jinx, The Trials Of Gabriel Fernandez

  • Amanda
    Amanda Denver
    100% agree with y’all doing an episode about Rey Riviera! I love the new unsolved mysteries but that first episode really stuck with me... that one and the one about the French family who was murdered by the husband/father. This list is great though... I’ve been through all the Lake Erie Murder episodes but I’ll be working my way through the rest of the list now! Thanks guys!

    100% agree with y’all doing an episode about Rey Riviera! I love the new unsolved mysteries but that first episode really stuck with me... that one and the one about the French family who was murdered by the husband/father.

    This list is great though... I’ve been through all the Lake Erie Murder episodes but I’ll be working my way through the rest of the list now! Thanks guys!

  • Gary Benites
    Gary Benites Templeton, CA
    Nic and the Captain, if you haven't watched "The Trials of Daniel Fernandez" on Netflix, it is definitely "must see". It's heartbreaking, frustrating, and it will surely piss you off, and you will probably want to do a show about it!!

    Nic and the Captain, if you haven't watched "The Trials of Daniel Fernandez" on Netflix, it is definitely "must see". It's heartbreaking, frustrating, and it will surely piss you off, and you will probably want to do a show about it!!

  • Uncle D.
    Uncle D. BFE
    Is that really all you have this week? No case. A 20 minute interview with a fake suspect. Then "Hey, here are my favorite tv shows". Rip off. No six pack for you. I'm growing tired of the lazy weeks.

    Is that really all you have this week? No case. A 20 minute interview with a fake suspect. Then "Hey, here are my favorite tv shows". Rip off. No six pack for you. I'm growing tired of the lazy weeks.

  • Jeff
    Jeff GA
    The first episode of Unsolved Mysteries is garbage. They leave out a lot. Baltimore Sun has a good article about it. He didn't work for his friends company anymore (resigned like 6 months prior). His friend did talk to cops. There was no gag order placed on his employees. The author of the book on the case did interviews with them but they left those out as she believes its not a mystery but mental illness and suicide. Disappointing that even Unsolved Mysteries edits out the truth.

    The first episode of Unsolved Mysteries is garbage. They leave out a lot. Baltimore Sun has a good article about it. He didn't work for his friends company anymore (resigned like 6 months prior). His friend did talk to cops. There was no gag order placed on his employees. The author of the book on the case did interviews with them but they left those out as she believes its not a mystery but mental illness and suicide. Disappointing that even Unsolved Mysteries edits out the truth.

  • Amanda
    Amanda Denver
    Literally binged I’ll Be Gone In the Dark on HBO today... definitely recommend! Fantastic docuseries and now I’m ordering the book

    Literally binged I’ll Be Gone In the Dark on HBO today... definitely recommend! Fantastic docuseries and now I’m ordering the book

  • Justene
    Justene MN
    After listening to Payne Lindsay's Atlanta Monster podcast it seemed to me that Wayne Williams was guilty of at least some of these murders. After watching the HBO documentary about this, things seem different to me. I'm interested in your thoughts on Wayne Williams. Surely he is not just a "fall guy". Very compelling documentary. Thanks for the countdown.

    After listening to Payne Lindsay's Atlanta Monster podcast it seemed to me that Wayne Williams was guilty of at least some of these murders. After watching the HBO documentary about this, things seem different to me. I'm interested in your thoughts on Wayne Williams. Surely he is not just a "fall guy". Very compelling documentary. Thanks for the countdown.

  • Jessica
    Jessica Chandler, AZ
    One thing I do find odd about the Central Park 5 case is a strange altercation that occurred between Mathias and Korey Wise while in prison. It’s briefly mentioned in the documentary that they had spoke to eachother in prison before Mathias had confessed to the crime and they had a previous altercation. This strikes me as odd because it means that they must’ve known eachother prior to prison or else why would they talk to eachother in the first place and was the altercation due to Wise knowing or being at the crime scene and knew that Mathias was actually the one who raped her because he witnessed him do it. Perhaps Wise was apart of the assault but not actually the rapist? Just something that makes me scratch my head. That maybe the boys were there but not as involved as police thought but still were somewhat involved. It is known that Reyes and Wise spoke in 2001, prior to his confession, when they were both inmates at the Auburn Correctional Facility. They'd previously been in an altercation.[19][20]

    One thing I do find odd about the Central Park 5 case is a strange altercation that occurred between Mathias and Korey Wise while in prison. It’s briefly mentioned in the documentary that they had spoke to eachother in prison before Mathias had confessed to the crime and they had a previous altercation. This strikes me as odd because it means that they must’ve known eachother prior to prison or else why would they talk to eachother in the first place and was the altercation due to Wise knowing or being at the crime scene and knew that Mathias was actually the one who raped her because he witnessed him do it. Perhaps Wise was apart of the assault but not actually the rapist? Just something that makes me scratch my head. That maybe the boys were there but not as involved as police thought but still were somewhat involved.

    It is known that Reyes and Wise spoke in 2001, prior to his confession, when they were both inmates at the Auburn Correctional Facility. They'd previously been in an altercation.[19][20]

  • James
    James North Carolina
    You missed Don't F*** With Cats on Netflix, that was great.

    You missed Don't F*** With Cats on Netflix, that was great.

  • tom
    tom stoughton
    The keepers!!...a classic from start to finish. Disturbing subject matter to be sure, but so damn intreiging.....netflix

    The keepers!!...a classic from start to finish. Disturbing subject matter to be sure, but so damn intreiging.....netflix

  • mG
    mG tX
    Although the Manson family has certainly been played out, Epix new "Helter Skelter" series is really good. Jeff Guinn is interviewed a lot and they have great photos and video from the time. It really puts you back in the period and has a lot of interviews with former members, such as Bobby Beausolei. Strongly recommend. It seeks to get to the true story and not the fiction that was perpetrated.

    Although the Manson family has certainly been played out, Epix new "Helter Skelter" series is really good. Jeff Guinn is interviewed a lot and they have great photos and video from the time. It really puts you back in the period and has a lot of interviews with former members, such as Bobby Beausolei. Strongly recommend. It seeks to get to the true story and not the fiction that was perpetrated.

  • Debby Sullivan
    Debby Sullivan Pittsburgh
    The only one of these I've seen is "I Love You Now Die", about Michelle Carter. I thought it was a fascinating case and a very well-done documentary. What intrigues me about it is- how can somebody be so NASTY? It's obvious that Michelle has issues- if not a mental illness then definitely some kind of personality disorder- but my God! Urging your friend to take his own life?? That's a special kind of evil. The other thing about it that intrigues me is the legality of her behavior, which is certainly murky. Although most of us find this morally reprehensible, is it actually illegal?? Should it be? This opens up a whole can of worms related to the internet and cyberspace, where most of this crime occurred. I also love crime docs on YouTube- do yunz watch any of those? I follow several crime channels on there- one of my favorite is the actual police bodycams and interviews of Chris Watts, family annihilator. I'm also fascinated by this case- I know yunz have done an episode on it, but I haven't gotten to it yet

    The only one of these I've seen is "I Love You Now Die", about Michelle Carter. I thought it was a fascinating case and a very well-done documentary. What intrigues me about it is- how can somebody be so NASTY? It's obvious that Michelle has issues- if not a mental illness then definitely some kind of personality disorder- but my God! Urging your friend to take his own life?? That's a special kind of evil. The other thing about it that intrigues me is the legality of her behavior, which is certainly murky. Although most of us find this morally reprehensible, is it actually illegal?? Should it be? This opens up a whole can of worms related to the internet and cyberspace, where most of this crime occurred.
    I also love crime docs on YouTube- do yunz watch any of those? I follow several crime channels on there- one of my favorite is the actual police bodycams and interviews of Chris Watts, family annihilator. I'm also fascinated by this case- I know yunz have done an episode on it, but I haven't gotten to it yet

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